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Fluffy
Administrator

USA
10739 Posts

Posted - 12/21/2004 :  05:53:29 AM  Show Profile  Send Fluffy an AOL message  Reply with Quote
HAPPY WINTER SOLSTICE
THE REBIRTH OF LIGHT
ENJOY THE PAGAN RITUAL
OF YOUR CHOICE
LOVE NATURE
ITS A GOOD THING

Peace & Keep the Faith
Fluffy
"THE MUSIC BUSINESS IS A CRUEL AND SHALLOW MONEY TRENCH-- A LONG PLASTIC HALLWAY WHERE THIEVES AND PIMPS RUN FREE AND GOOD MEN DIE LIKE DOGS. THERE'S ALSO A NEGATIVE SIDE..." -Hunter S. Thompson

Hopeful Rolling Waves
Alien Abductee

South Sandwich Islands
2154 Posts

Posted - 12/21/2004 :  08:41:50 AM  Show Profile  Send Hopeful Rolling Waves an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Pagan rituals are so stupid. HAHA.

Happy vacation time.

Does Tim celebrate Christmas? He seems like he wouldn't but he has daughter which probably softens him up a bit.

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Robin
Yak Addict

USA
598 Posts

Posted - 12/21/2004 :  12:58:00 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Love the earth, and Solstice blessings to all,the light returns! Peace, Robin
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dan p.
Alien Abductee

Uganda
3776 Posts

Posted - 12/21/2004 :  2:04:04 PM  Show Profile  Send dan p. an AOL message  Reply with Quote
i appreciate the fact that it has some basis in real science. astronomy in this case. i equally appreciate the cleverness of the church for slapping their holidays on top of pagan holidays. there's just a level of asshole behavior where you have to just smirk and shake your head.

i'm more than a little confused at this sudden influx of alledged pagan and wiccan believers, particularly among teenagers, and more specifically, teenage girls. i'm not passing off your beliefs as a fad, fluffy. nor am i calling you a teenage girl (although i'm still suspicious.) i'm only wondering why suddenly these ancient believes are cropping up again.

death to false metal.
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Zachmozach
Fluffy-Esque

USA
1534 Posts

Posted - 12/21/2004 :  2:31:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dan we need new myths and we need myths that work. So I think we are seeing a return to the some of the ancient beliefs. People need a story to enact and the one we have now pretty much sucks. The ancient beliefs almost without fail hold the knowledge of the only proven right way to live. They in fact hold the secret to life. Like the message says Love Nature it's a good thing.

I think I'd like to participate in some pagan rituals sometime.

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Robin
Yak Addict

USA
598 Posts

Posted - 12/21/2004 :  3:00:02 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm not a teenage girl, or a wicca. I'm a Cherokee Indian, and have always celecrated the Solstice as well as the Equinox. It's not new for those of us who have always celebrated with cremony the things we find spirit in. Peace, Robin
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PJK
Alien Abductee

USA
4159 Posts

Posted - 12/21/2004 :  4:45:47 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Very cool Robin. I sure would love to hear more about how you celebrate that!

I love Christmas, I love the traditions my family shares. I am just filled to the brim with love, peace and happiness. Now I will be the first to admit, the TIMe of year probably has little to do with that, but traditions bring me closer to the ones I love.

Personally I don't care what people celebrate or don't celebrate. I enjoy hearing about other customs and beliefs but I am getting tired of all the Christmas bashing. If people don't like the holiday or something about it, don't celebrate it or the part you don't like. If your family forces you to participate in family rituals, do yourself a favor and just go along with it. Some things you can get out of when you're older but even then, someTIMes it is just nice to do things because it makes family members happy. You don't have to be fake about it but you don't have to be sarcastic and critical either.

Just my opinion. Jesus happens to be one of a handful of people in whom I have the greatest respect and I am happy to celebrate his birth. As always, to each his/her own.

I think the original message was supposed to stir peace and good feelings, so lets try to keep it that way.

"It is hard enough to remember my opinions, without also remembering my reasons for them!"Friedrich Nietzsche
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Arthen
Alien Abductee

USA
4845 Posts

Posted - 12/21/2004 :  5:02:04 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Be groovy.

Spend time with those you love.

Don't do harm to others.

Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
cbenc41@hotmail.com
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Jay
Alien Abductee

Vatican City
2279 Posts

Posted - 12/21/2004 :  5:06:35 PM  Show Profile  Send Jay an AOL message  Reply with Quote
There ya go. I'm celebrating the fact that I'm not completely fed up yet. Happy December! That seems to cover it...

"Hey man...you smell..."
"Oh yeah?"
"yeah...like dinner..."
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Robin
Yak Addict

USA
598 Posts

Posted - 12/21/2004 :  8:17:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey Pam, thanks. I am of the same opinion as you. Do what it is that means something to you. I'm happy that the holiday is meaningful for you and warm wishes to you too. Peace, Robin
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dan p.
Alien Abductee

Uganda
3776 Posts

Posted - 12/21/2004 :  9:07:08 PM  Show Profile  Send dan p. an AOL message  Reply with Quote
i agree. it's time for new myths.

i understand that you've been celebrating this solstice all your life. i was talking about the sudden increase in wiccans and i don't recall mentioning indians, or any other such heritage, because i haven't seen everyone all of a sudden claiming that. it was just an observation.

i think that it's amazing that, since time uncounted, people have been so accurately recording and understanding minute patterns that take a long time to complete without the benefit of what tools we now have. astronomy in particular. look at fucking stonehedge and the accuracy there. it's astounding.

death to false metal.
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Zachmozach
Fluffy-Esque

USA
1534 Posts

Posted - 12/21/2004 :  9:50:57 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dan p.

i think that it's amazing that, since time uncounted, people have been so accurately recording and understanding minute patterns that take a long time to complete without the benefit of what tools we now have. astronomy in particular. look at fucking stonehedge and the accuracy there. it's astounding.


Especially interesting are the Mayans and there unreal knowledge of the cosmos. They were amazingly accurate and their calendar by far surpasses anything in the gregorian calendar we use. Then again it's one of my theories that astrology was one of the earliest systems of beliefs that in large part transformed the judeo/christian belief system. It is awe inspiring and good reminder that we today are in no way more intelligent then our ancestors.

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dan p.
Alien Abductee

Uganda
3776 Posts

Posted - 12/21/2004 :  11:40:23 PM  Show Profile  Send dan p. an AOL message  Reply with Quote
yeah but their calender doesn't go past 2015. so. that's the flaw.

death to false metal.
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Hopeful Rolling Waves
Alien Abductee

South Sandwich Islands
2154 Posts

Posted - 12/22/2004 :  08:14:00 AM  Show Profile  Send Hopeful Rolling Waves an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Dan, I got a feeling the end of the world is so f-ing close, the Mayans damn well may be spot on with that. They talk about the "2020 Spike" but it could well be before that.

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filmdude100cms
Is Anybody Here?

40 Posts

Posted - 12/22/2004 :  2:20:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
mayan calendar ends 2012, but it says the earth will experiance a great event... doesnt say if its good or bad, or that the world is ending, or being reborn.
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therippa
Fluffy-Esque

Kazakhstan
1099 Posts

Posted - 12/22/2004 :  8:30:35 PM  Show Profile  Send therippa an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Have a Merry Christmas,
a Happy Chanaukah,
a Crazy Kwanza,
and a solemn and dignified Ramadan!



Aspiring to Be Fluffy-Esque an Alien Abductee!
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Arthen
Alien Abductee

USA
4845 Posts

Posted - 12/23/2004 :  02:21:27 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Zachmozach

quote:
Originally posted by dan p.

i think that it's amazing that, since time uncounted, people have been so accurately recording and understanding minute patterns that take a long time to complete without the benefit of what tools we now have. astronomy in particular. look at fucking stonehedge and the accuracy there. it's astounding.


Especially interesting are the Mayans and there unreal knowledge of the cosmos. They were amazingly accurate and their calendar by far surpasses anything in the gregorian calendar we use. Then again it's one of my theories that astrology was one of the earliest systems of beliefs that in large part transformed the judeo/christian belief system. It is awe inspiring and good reminder that we today are in no way more intelligent then our ancestors.



All this proves is that these civilizations have been influenced by aliens! Aliens from space I tell you! Art Bell and Erich von Daniken are correct! They built the pyramids and everything else, am I the only one who sees?!!?!?!!?

Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
cbenc41@hotmail.com
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CPPJames
Yak Addict

Fyro Macedonia
800 Posts

Posted - 12/23/2004 :  10:35:13 AM  Show Profile  Send CPPJames an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Art Bell...wow, blast from the past. I haven't listened to Coast-to-Coast AM in probably a year. Used to date a girl that required 2 hours of driving each way, that show made the drive so much easier. Thank you so much for mentioning him. Who's the host now, still George Noory (sp?)?

There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those that understand binary, and those that don't.
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filmdude100cms
Is Anybody Here?

40 Posts

Posted - 12/23/2004 :  10:35:43 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
^yes
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