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Zachmozach
Fluffy-Esque

USA
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Posted - 03/26/2004 :  10:04:49 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just thought I'd piss everyone off.

01) The Beatles
02) Bob Dylan
03) Elvis Presley
04) The Rolling Stones
05) Chuck Berry
06) Jimi Hendrix
07) James Brown
08) Little Richard
09) Aretha Franklin
10) Ray Charles
11) Bob Marley
12) The Beach Boys
13) Buddy Holly
14) Led Zeppelin
15) Stevie Wonder
16) Sam Cooke
17) Muddy Watters
18) Marvin Gaye
19) The Velvet Underground
20) Bo Diddley
21) Otis Redding
22) U2
23) Bruce Springsteen
24) Jerry Lee Lewis
25) Fats Domino
26) The Ramones
27) Nirvana
28) Prince
29) The Who
30) The Clash
31) Johnny Cash
32) Smokey Robinson and the Miracles
33) The Everly Brothers
34) Neil Young
35) Michael Jackson
36) Madonna
37) Roy Orbison
38) John Lennon
39) David Bowie
40) Simon and Garfunkel
41) The Doors
42) Van Morrison
43) Sly and the Family Stone
44) Public Enemy
45) The Byrds
46) Janis Joplin
47) Patti Smith
48) Run-DMC
49) Elton John
50) The Band
http://rollingstone.com/features/coverstory/featuregen.asp?pid=2846

James M.
Chatterbox

USA
245 Posts

Posted - 03/27/2004 :  01:57:18 AM  Show Profile  Send James M. an AOL message  Reply with Quote
lol just thought ud piss everyone off..SO TRUE!..thanks for posting this though..
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Arthen
Alien Abductee

USA
4845 Posts

Posted - 03/27/2004 :  04:29:12 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not as bad as the greatest guitarist list, but what could be that fucking horrible? And it's still a shitty list. I like the Beatles, but they are by far not the greatest band ever. How can you have artists like Chuck Berry and Elvis, when without them you wouldn't have bands like, The Beatles or the Stones.

There's no Scott Joplin either. He only spawned the first form of American Popular Music, Ragtime.

And why the hell is U2 on the list, when Peter Gabriel isn't?

I hate Rolling Stone.

Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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PJK
Alien Abductee

USA
4159 Posts

Posted - 03/27/2004 :  09:48:06 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not as bad as I thought either. First of all the subject is too broad. I mean if you are doing ALL artists where the hell is Miles Davis, John Coltrane, Herbie Hancock, the Marsalis family, gee I could go on and on, and yes, where is Peter Gabriel and the Grateful Dead!!!!!!

As for the Beatles, their greatness came as they matured. I don't think even they would disagree that their first songs were basically crap, but understand they were young, late teens, early 20's when they started and they did not have the benefit of the music that is out today. They developed in a time when rock was new. They came a long way from I Wanna Hold Your Hand to Yesterday etc.

One more thought on the Beatles. While their fame was wonderful for them, imagine how frustrating it must have been to go to a concert and sing, knowing not one person in the crowd will hear you. The girls screamed the entire time and their noise was louder than the music could ever be. I know, my first concert was a Beatles concert and yes I screamed the entire time too! Makes me laugh when I think back on it. It is hard to explain to someone now what it was like back then, in the 60's but the world was a very different place.

"It is hard enough to remember my opinions, without also remembering my reasons for them!"Friedrich Nietzsche
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dan p.
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Uganda
3776 Posts

Posted - 03/27/2004 :  11:51:55 AM  Show Profile  Send dan p. an AOL message  Reply with Quote
the rolling stones suck.
u2 is boring.
bob dylan sucks.
nirvana sucks.
the clash sucks.
neil young sucks.
maddona sucks.
john lennon was part of the beatles, so that's not even fair. he's practically on there twice.

it looks like they choose these bands based on social reasons. let's face it, nirvana may have been literally the world's worst band ever, but have that whole grundge thing. not that grundge is an important social thing. bob dylan wrote protest songs, and that seems to impress people, so at least he's legitimate for social reasons. and i'll allow the same for neil young, just because i don't have time to get into it.

i'm totally baffled by madonna. what? what has she done? so her voice is only semi-obnoxious. she's never done anything great in her life. u2 doesn't suck, but there's not "great" in any sense of the word. but the who made it on, which is good, since they rule.

death to false metal.
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James M.
Chatterbox

USA
245 Posts

Posted - 03/27/2004 :  1:04:29 PM  Show Profile  Send James M. an AOL message  Reply with Quote
nirvana did suck indeed
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PJK
Alien Abductee

USA
4159 Posts

Posted - 03/27/2004 :  1:09:36 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
dan, I agree about the John Lennon thing, I also think it is like he is on there twice. Personally I think George Harrison had better song writing skills then John did, but again, just my opinion.

As for Nirvana, I have to disagree. They were fucking amazing! You are right however about the popularity playing into this list, but that is always the case. It's all about perception. Since all of us relate to certain music for certain personal reasons we all have a different perception. We would all have different top 50 lists.I don't know for sure how RS comes up with their lists, but they are not absolute, think of it only as a list according to RS. We all would agree with some and disagree with others.

Honestly the music that made the most impact on my life would never be listed there. Its the music of Soko. It is very personal but a song reached out to me and changed my life forever. Not even the Beatles, Stones, or Grateful Dead did that for me in such a huge way.

I don't think there is anything negative about you feeling some of the artists on the list totally suck, I agree about Madonna, disagree about others but hey, thats ok.

The point to celebrate here is that there is tons of music out there and our lives are better because of it.

"It is hard enough to remember my opinions, without also remembering my reasons for them!"Friedrich Nietzsche
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James M.
Chatterbox

USA
245 Posts

Posted - 03/27/2004 :  2:24:05 PM  Show Profile  Send James M. an AOL message  Reply with Quote
i dont know about better...maybe a little more entertaining..
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Zachmozach
Fluffy-Esque

USA
1534 Posts

Posted - 03/27/2004 :  5:01:27 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well the thing that pisses me off about this whole list thing is the fact that... well first of all they tried to rank artists which is dumb in and of itself cause it's a total opinion. Besides I don't think there's really any way to say greatest or not, but hey if they want to publish an opinion on who they like the most that's ok. I look at the list though and I'm thinking so if these are the greatest artists ever why are they never in the magazine? Why is britney and her peers on the cover so much? I can't say I subscribe but I read them from time to time in a waiting room or whatever. I've never seen marley on the cover and I can't remember them all still writing and talking about elvis. It's just that if these are the best of all time why don't they give them respect issue to issue why do they just push the crap/pop that's marketed today?

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Arthen
Alien Abductee

USA
4845 Posts

Posted - 03/27/2004 :  5:21:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There is an essay about each artist, written by another famous musician. Little Richard's essay is written by himself, here are the first two sentences:

"Lots of people call me the architect of rock and roll. I don't say that, but I believe that it is true."

LOL at least Little Richard is funny.



One other problem, is that the list is: "Greatest Artists of all Time". So there is no Bach, no Mozart, no Haydn, no Beethoven, etc, etc. It should be: "Greatest Artists of the Past Fifty Years".

Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
cbenc41@hotmail.com
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dan p.
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Uganda
3776 Posts

Posted - 03/27/2004 :  5:26:06 PM  Show Profile  Send dan p. an AOL message  Reply with Quote
you can like nirvana and no one it going to try to change your opinion on them, because that'd be futile. i'd just like to point out that i taught some nirvana songs to a friend of mine who had never picked up a guitar before, and hasn't since. in the course of 10 minutes he managed to get one of them, i forget which, nearly perfect. literally anyone with 3 fingers on their fret hand can play and write nirvana calibur songs. kurt cobaine had next to no skill and he wrote, what is in my opinion, terrible songs that all sound more or less the same. bad. not only that, they didn't have anyhing important to say. the fact that anyone knows who them troubles me greatly. i guess angsty middle class teens are more desperate to relate to something than i imagined.

death to false metal.
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Arthen
Alien Abductee

USA
4845 Posts

Posted - 03/27/2004 :  7:42:38 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And a few years ago they did this huge thing on how Phish was the greatest band of the last twenty years or something, and then they aren't even on ths list.

Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
cbenc41@hotmail.com
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Zachmozach
Fluffy-Esque

USA
1534 Posts

Posted - 03/27/2004 :  8:03:25 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Arthen

And a few years ago they did this huge thing on how Phish was the greatest band of the last twenty years or something, and then they aren't even on ths list.


Exactly what I was thinking! How can that be?

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PJK
Alien Abductee

USA
4159 Posts

Posted - 03/27/2004 :  8:51:24 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
dan, I gotta admit you definately have a point about Nirvana. I actually got in the mood to listen to them after posting earlier and I kind of laughed because I haven't listened to them for a long time and I realized that all but one song I was listening to that I really liked were cover songs from other people! LOL I still like to listen to their music but you are right, they weren't very good.

I guess I just have memories attached to some of their songs.

"It is hard enough to remember my opinions, without also remembering my reasons for them!"Friedrich Nietzsche
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Arthen
Alien Abductee

USA
4845 Posts

Posted - 03/27/2004 :  9:17:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I like Nirvana Unplugged. But they definitely shouldn't be on the list. Half of their acclaim and fame is because Kurt Cobain killed himself.

Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
cbenc41@hotmail.com
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dan p.
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Uganda
3776 Posts

Posted - 03/28/2004 :  3:04:56 PM  Show Profile  Send dan p. an AOL message  Reply with Quote
a steel tonic was just what the doctor ordered for him.

death to false metal.
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JoeGamo05
Chatterbox

USA
279 Posts

Posted - 03/28/2004 :  3:29:48 PM  Show Profile  Send JoeGamo05 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
don't bash dylon :) wheres TR on it? xD

When the trees start walking, the ground starts moving, your insane, your insane
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dan p.
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Uganda
3776 Posts

Posted - 03/29/2004 :  6:05:27 PM  Show Profile  Send dan p. an AOL message  Reply with Quote
ugh. don't even get me startedon dylan.

death to false metal.
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