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Fluffy
Administrator

USA
10739 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2002 :  05:21:33 AM  Show Profile  Send Fluffy an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Wow, I can't believe you all called me an stupid idiot and and asshole!

Peace & Keep the Faith
Fluffy

pcbTIM
Alien Abductee

USA
6501 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2002 :  07:22:06 AM  Show Profile  Visit pcbTIM's Homepage  Send pcbTIM an AOL message  Reply with Quote
.............fuck.......

"I do what I can with what I've got."
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Xar666
Yak Addict

USA
546 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2002 :  09:07:31 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
???

-Xar666

I never really hated a one true god, but the god of the people I hated.
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TalkingNeurons
Yak Addict

523 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2002 :  09:56:07 AM  Show Profile  Send TalkingNeurons an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Well, you were kinda acting like a stupid idiot, I mean getting all pissed off at someone calling you a post whore. He was obviously just kidding about it, and when you write a post that big, chances are most people will just read a couple of sentences and move on, I do any way, and you can hate me all you want, I don't care, I see this place as just a chat room, I don't consider these guys in this board my friends like you do, u have to consider these people your good friends (don't know why, you might not have any friends in the real world, and just come here cause some people like you) because if you didn't you wouldn't make such a big deal out of this.






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{=HTG=}
Alien Abductee

USA
2342 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2002 :  10:06:18 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Fluffy, I've never said anything negative towards you, and have found no reason to do so. I'm just going to log out as my name for now...we've lost a couple of good people here due to fighting. I'll be no part in this disscussion/ argument.


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Saint Jude
Alien Abductee

USA
2144 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2002 :  11:58:25 AM  Show Profile  Send Saint Jude an AOL message  Reply with Quote
???

- Without you, without you everything falls apart
Without you, it's not as much fun to pick up the pieces.
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victorwootenfan
Alien Abductee

USA
2128 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2002 :  12:11:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
confused...

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Jason
Chatterbox

194 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2002 :  1:47:35 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
First of all Fluffy....YOU ROCK!...now that I have said that...I don't understand how people can come here and make comments like that to people on this board who have been here longer than they have. I look at this board like I do going to visit anyones home. You do not go to someone's house and insult the person who lives there. If you do not like being there you leave. We are not forcing anyone to hang out here...you do it because you like it and that should be it. Sure you can have differences in opinions, but you should still remain respectful until you have earned the right to do other wise. I am not sure where the comment was made and why..and I really don't care that much but respect should be shown at all times. FLUFFY YOU HAD ME AT HELLO!

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pcbTIM
Alien Abductee

USA
6501 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2002 :  8:30:24 PM  Show Profile  Visit pcbTIM's Homepage  Send pcbTIM an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:

Well, you were kinda acting like a stupid idiot, I mean getting all pissed off at someone calling you a post whore. He was obviously just kidding about it, and when you write a post that big, chances are most people will just read a couple of sentences and move on, I do any way, and you can hate me all you want, I don't care, I see this place as just a chat room, I don't consider these guys in this board my friends like you do, u have to consider these people your good friends (don't know why, you might not have any friends in the real world, and just come here cause some people like you) because if you didn't you wouldn't make such a big deal out of this.



Just stop it. Stop posting.

"I do what I can with what I've got."
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victorwootenfan
Alien Abductee

USA
2128 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2002 :  9:05:05 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i know i'm a newbie kinda guy here and all, but ever since i started posting on this board fluffy as ALWAYS made my opinion and others seem important and I have been shown friendless by him, and shit man, i would like that to continue, so yeah don't be badmouthin' the man!

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dirtysloth
Fluffy-Esque

USA
1302 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2002 :  11:02:18 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
TN, Fluffy himself even pointed out that it wasn't the "post whore" thing that got him riled up... just that the only thing pcbdmb had to say to his informative post was a small joke... and even then, the only reason he took offense to that was really because pcbdmb said it right after Fluffy posted, right as he was feeling the most frustrated....

I'm not trying to speak for Fluffy. I could very well be wrong. This is just my interpretation after reading that whole topic.

Peace,
Patrick

http://members.tripod.com/one4tim/index.htm
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My_Bad_Side
Alien Abductee

2000 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2002 :  11:07:42 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Who else thinks how great it would be for everyone to know that the little trash can at the top of your own post will actually delete posts, for good?

I mean, you can't erase the problems and misunderstandings and all that. Oh, wait, yes you can. It would have to be a concerted effort of all those involved, but that probably wouldn't be that hard. Just get the misunderstood "quarreling" members to understand that most people here ARE friends aboard this here space pod, and delete away, until all that's left is happy stuff.

Kinda like putting the board on Zoloft, more or less.

I know that's not a complete and utter solution to the all the less than positive situations, but I think it would go a pretty good way in helping.

And of course I mean, leave your actual points, but delete the [what I call] bickering.

Just my 2.

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pcbTIM
Alien Abductee

USA
6501 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2002 :  11:35:17 PM  Show Profile  Visit pcbTIM's Homepage  Send pcbTIM an AOL message  Reply with Quote
But that doesn't solve the problem. It's actually simply ignoring it.

"I do what I can with what I've got."
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Silky The Pimp
Alien Abductee

3321 Posts

Posted - 04/11/2002 :  12:17:34 AM  Show Profile  Send Silky The Pimp an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Who else thinks how great it would be for everyone to know that the little trash can at the top of your own post will actually delete posts, for good?

I mean, you can't erase the problems and misunderstandings and all that. Oh, wait, yes you can. It would have to be a concerted effort of all those involved, but that probably wouldn't be that hard. Just get the misunderstood "quarreling" members to understand that most people here ARE friends aboard this here space pod, and delete away, until all that's left is happy stuff.

Kinda like putting the board on Zoloft, more or less.

I know that's not a complete and utter solution to the all the less than positive situations, but I think it would go a pretty good way in helping.

And of course I mean, leave your actual points, but delete the [what I call] bickering.

Just my 2.




The problem is that n00b's come and they don't know what's going on like the regulars do. We know each other, at least to some extent, well enough that we feel comfortable enough to have fun and make dick, jizz, shit, crossdressing, perverted, fart, sexist etc. jokes with each other... that, of course, includes Fluffy.

Then the n00b's come. They are either clueless as to what's going on or they just want to start shit... he goes to great length to set things straight, and they don't even dignify him with a reasonable response, if they respond at all. And somehow, these bastard defensive posts always seem to find their way to the surface as a response to Fluffy's posts. It's really asinine and I don't blame Fluffy for getting frustrated. Then on top of that, a lot of we regulars joke around SO much that we make light of EVERYTHING, even though I think it's now evident that Fluffy would like us to back him up every once-in-a-while rather than making snide remarks about all the things that he's being serious about.

So in that sense, it will always go on, and unfortunately deleting the questionable posts will accomplish nothing because it will sweep it under the rug until the next bastard comes along and singles out Fluffy... which I do feel bad about the way that happens, but it's going to come with the territory of being the board "leader," for lack of a better description.

Then you have the ones like TN or SGWAG that don't know when to quit while they're behind... talk about borderline trolls. It's kinda funny that it's the n00b's and morons that don't care whether Fluffy is here or not end up ruining it for those of us that do care.
-J

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pcbTIM
Alien Abductee

USA
6501 Posts

Posted - 04/11/2002 :  12:52:56 AM  Show Profile  Visit pcbTIM's Homepage  Send pcbTIM an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Exactly Silky.........exactly.

"I do what I can with what I've got."
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My_Bad_Side
Alien Abductee

2000 Posts

Posted - 04/11/2002 :  01:32:19 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Silky, I agree with your last paragraph. And I agree with pcb that it would just be ignoring the problem. But if you ignore problems, then sometimes go away. And leaving the bad stuff (bickering, for example) doesn't educate the new people. Because if they come after that has died down, they will never see it. So it will happen again and again, whether or not it's left up.

Howerver, if it's deleted, then people that post semi-regularly will come by and see something's up. They'll ask what happened, then everyone that's always here can just say, oh don't worry about it, we're friends, and it's worked out.

I guess I see that as a way to involve less people in the drama.

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Fluffy
Administrator

USA
10739 Posts

Posted - 04/11/2002 :  04:29:25 AM  Show Profile  Send Fluffy an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Seems like everyone is understanding my frustration!! Thanx for taking the time to stop and sus out what I was talking about. I shall not forsake my friends!! I said alot of that in the heat of battle and for that I am sorry. I promise to address ALL your comments on a more personal level tomorrow. I ran my ass off for Ani DiFranco for 15+ hours today and must get a little sleep b4 I have to be back at the club at noon tomorrow to do the same for Rusted Root. Hey, did you guys know the world is actually functioning at 10am? That is what time I had to be at the club today. I don't think I have been at work at 10am in say 15 years. It is a whole different world at that hour of the morning. I am watching the hands on the clock tick by and with each click I get less sleep b4 I have to be back at noon, so I gonna try and get some sleep. Thanx again for understanding and sticking by me. Sorry to anyone I said anything derogatory or negative to. It was more a frustration at the situation than at any one person or persons. See ya tomorrow!!

Peace & Keep the Faith
Fluffy
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LizT
Fluffy-Esque

USA
1687 Posts

Posted - 04/11/2002 :  10:25:48 AM  Show Profile  Send LizT an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I just want to say that I consider all of the regulars here as friends!! Even though most of us haven't met in person, there definitely has been a friendship built and a bond has been created between us. The newbies don't know us at all and don't understand that. It might be a good idea for the new friends to go back and read some of the past posts before we are judged unfairly. We welcome all newbies with open arms. Where they take it, that's up to them. If they want to get to know us, that's very cool. Things that happen like this makes our friendship grow stronger! I pitty the next joker that starts something. The TR/Fluffy Task Force is getting organized!! Hee hee!!

So sorry for your frustration Fluffy. Just remember that we care about you very much my friend.



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victorwootenfan
Alien Abductee

USA
2128 Posts

Posted - 04/11/2002 :  9:52:06 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanks liz, about welcoming newbie's(like me) to the board with open arms. i appreciate that a lot, and am glad for the chance to gain more respect and friendship from the board itself. I thank you, and all of you! And fluffy again, thanks man!

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LizT
Fluffy-Esque

USA
1687 Posts

Posted - 04/11/2002 :  10:01:01 PM  Show Profile  Send LizT an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Your very welcome! I've said it before and I'll say it
again.. Put on your crash helmet and strap on the seatbelt
and enjoy the ride guys and gals!

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Silky The Pimp
Alien Abductee

3321 Posts

Posted - 04/11/2002 :  10:08:25 PM  Show Profile  Send Silky The Pimp an AOL message  Reply with Quote
You've been cool from the start and have stuck around long enough that you're nearly on your second guitar VWF... so we may have to strip you of your n00b status pretty shortly.
-J

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pcbTIM
Alien Abductee

USA
6501 Posts

Posted - 04/11/2002 :  10:09:05 PM  Show Profile  Visit pcbTIM's Homepage  Send pcbTIM an AOL message  Reply with Quote
.......I like mine better
So bend over, bite your lip, and grab on to something, cuz you're going for a RIDE!

"I do what I can with what I've got."
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BigEyedPhish
Is Anybody Here?

USA
38 Posts

Posted - 04/11/2002 :  10:31:02 PM  Show Profile  Send BigEyedPhish an AOL message  Reply with Quote

hey fluffy
i hope you saw my apology for the other topic. i feel really bad (and kind of responsible) for all your frustration. thank you and the board for welcoming me in



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My_Bad_Side
Alien Abductee

2000 Posts

Posted - 04/12/2002 :  12:49:57 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:

You've been cool from the start and have stuck around long enough that you're nearly on your second guitar VWF...



Every time I see STP use his three letter designation for victor wooten fan, my dislexic side kicks in and I see VFW, which of course would be veterans of foreign wars (or something close), and I think how odd it is that a vet would post on this board.

There is no Dog.

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Fluffy
Administrator

USA
10739 Posts

Posted - 04/12/2002 :  04:38:57 AM  Show Profile  Send Fluffy an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Okay, here is the explanation:
quote:
Wow, I can't believe you all called me an stupid idiot and and asshole!
This was my attempt to let everyone see how I was feeling. I directly accused EVERYONE of calling me a stupid idiot and an asshole when noone actually had. Then I went away and didn't explain my comment. Well for those who followed the tragedy of the last few days, that was how I was feeling. Like people were saying I had called them names and then they would lash out and disappear. So I thought I would try it and see how confused you all got. Everyone going "who called him and asshole or a stupid idiot, where did he get that".I just wanted everyone to feel a little of the confusion I had been feeling in hopes that it would help everyone relate to and understand a little better what I was trying to deal with. It can be frustrating to not know what you did to incite the anger of others. I don't know if it worked, but that was all it meant. If you felt any confusion by my comment, that was the point. To make everyone say, "Why does fluffy think I feel that way, what did I say to make him think this". Cause those are the kinds of things I was thinking after some of the perceived attacks(may be to strong a word, but I don't know what else to use. maybe perceived comments) It was not meant in a mean or vicious manner, I just thought it might be the best way to help everyone see it from my side. Comments had been put out there that were directed at me for what I could see as no apparent reason. Sorry it had to be so rude, but hopefully it worked. It was just a test of sorts, so I hope there were no hard feelings. Nothing was meant by it!

This has been a test of the Emergency Fluffcast System
It is only a test
In a real emergency you would be notified where to tune in your area for official information............................

Peace & Keep the Faith
Fluffy
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pcbTIM
Alien Abductee

USA
6501 Posts

Posted - 04/12/2002 :  06:44:15 AM  Show Profile  Visit pcbTIM's Homepage  Send pcbTIM an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:

I just wanted everyone to feel a little of the confusion I had been feeling in hopes that it would help everyone relate to and understand a little better what I was trying to deal with. It can be frustrating to not know what you did to incite the anger of others. I don't know if it worked, but that was all it meant. If you felt any confusion by my comment, that was the point. To make everyone say, "Why does fluffy think I feel that way, what did I say to make him think this".



wow........I never thought of it that way......pretty ingenious. I just thought you were releasing a Big Blast of Hot Air.

"I do what I can with what I've got."
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Fluffy
Administrator

USA
10739 Posts

Posted - 04/12/2002 :  06:44:47 AM  Show Profile  Send Fluffy an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Jason wrote:
quote:
First of all Fluffy....YOU ROCK!...now that I have said that...I don't understand how people can come here and make comments like that to people on this board who have been here longer than they have. I look at this board like I do going to visit anyones home. You do not go to someone's house and insult the person who lives there. If you do not like being there you leave. We are not forcing anyone to hang out here...you do it because you like it and that should be it. Sure you can have differences in opinions, but you should still remain respectful until you have earned the right to do other wise. I am not sure where the comment was made and why..and I really don't care that much but respect should be shown at all times. FLUFFY YOU HAD ME AT HELLO!


Thanx much Jason!! I had to quote the whole thing just because of the last line. That shit cracked me up, big time!!! It seemed to fit so well after your long diatribe(which rivals one of mine I might add HEHE). Thanx again for your friendship and support!! And THANX for understanding!!

Peace & Keep the Faith
Fluffy
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Fluffy
Administrator

USA
10739 Posts

Posted - 04/12/2002 :  06:49:20 AM  Show Profile  Send Fluffy an AOL message  Reply with Quote
dirtysloth wrote:
quote:
TN, Fluffy himself even pointed out that it wasn't the "post whore" thing that got him riled up... just that the only thing pcbdmb had to say to his informative post was a small joke... and even then, the only reason he took offense to that was really because pcbdmb said it right after Fluffy posted, right as he was feeling the most frustrated....

I'm not trying to speak for Fluffy. I could very well be wrong. This is just my interpretation after reading that whole topic.


RIGHT ON THE MONEY!! I couldn't have said it better myself! You have the whole picture and in this case it was fine that you spoke for me. You were not wrong. Your interpretation was dead on. Thanx for trying to clear it up for me. I appreciate the support, help and your understanding of the situation. PERFECT!!

Peace & Keep the Faith
Fluffy
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Fluffy
Administrator

USA
10739 Posts

Posted - 04/12/2002 :  06:56:18 AM  Show Profile  Send Fluffy an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Silky said:
quote:
Then the n00b's come. They are either clueless as to what's going on or they just want to start shit... he goes to great length to set things straight, and they don't even dignify him with a reasonable response, if they respond at all. And somehow, these bastard defensive posts always seem to find their way to the surface as a response to Fluffy's posts. It's really asinine and I don't blame Fluffy for getting frustrated. Then on top of that, a lot of we regulars joke around SO much that we make light of EVERYTHING, even though I think it's now evident that Fluffy would like us to back him up every once-in-a-while rather than making snide remarks about all the things that he's being serious about.

DEAD ON HERE AS WELL!!!! PERFECT!!!! By Jove, I think we've got it!!
quote:
but it's going to come with the territory of being the board "leader," for lack of a better description.

NOT THE LEADER!! better description: Friend aBOARD the Space Pod! or Cog in the machine, or part of the team, or member of the family. The whole(us) is no greater than the sum of it's parts(each of us).

Peace & Keep the Faith
Fluffy
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Fluffy
Administrator

USA
10739 Posts

Posted - 04/12/2002 :  07:05:36 AM  Show Profile  Send Fluffy an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Hey My Bad Side, I totally respect your sentiment and intention with the idea of deletion of posts, but I think deleting posts would be alot like sweeping it under the rug. As we have proved, we can weather the storm, and hopefully come out the wiser on the other side. Deletion of the posts is a step in the wrong direction. I understand your reasons and I commend your desire to make this a better place for all of us, but as with life, you come up against problems and you have to face them and overcome them. We have shown that we can do that here thru the strength of our friends. I think those posts are a tribute(albiet in a twisted way)to our friendship and our ability to overcome and work together to work out our differences. Those posts show the world exactly how strong our bond is. Those posts are also a part of the board along with the good ones. Deleting them wouldn't change anything and leaving them shows our strength against adversity. So while I love that you suggested that with only the best intentions, I think it is better to leave it alone and put it behind us. No need to erase it. It happened, it is a part of life on this board. We weathered it and we are all still here. That is the important thing, not whether the posts are here or not but that we are here. Glad to have you here and hope you stay around for a good long TIMe!!!

Peace & Keep the Faith
Fluffy
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Fluffy
Administrator

USA
10739 Posts

Posted - 04/12/2002 :  07:11:14 AM  Show Profile  Send Fluffy an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Hey My Bad Side, to use your own words:
[quote]Howerver, if it's deleted, then people that post semi-regularly will come by and see something's up. They'll ask what happened, then everyone that's always here can just say, oh don't worry about it, we're friends, and it's worked out.[quote]
I think this is exactly what I was trying to say in my last post. If they are there, people who stop by have a testament to the friendship aBOARD the board. They will see that we fight and have our differences, yet we work it out and move on. We don't let it bog us down. TRUE FRIENDSHIP. Those posts display that very well. I think!!

Peace & Keep the Faith
Fluffy
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Fluffy
Administrator

USA
10739 Posts

Posted - 04/12/2002 :  07:43:03 AM  Show Profile  Send Fluffy an AOL message  Reply with Quote
BEF wrote:
quote:
hey fluffy
i hope you saw my apology for the other topic. i feel really bad (and kind of responsible) for all your frustration. thank you and the board for welcoming me in


Indeed I did, and I am sorry you feel/felt really bad. You really should not. As I explained you were just the straw that broke the camels back. Your comments were not so slanderous as I might have made them sound. I was angry more that I was afraid it was another case of being misunderstood and someone getting offended by something I said. Namely you. My anger was certainly not directed at you. More at the situation. Don't sweat it. I have cooled down and there are NO hard feelings. Glad to have you here, and hope you stay around for a while.

Peace & Keep the Faith
Fluffy
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My_Bad_Side
Alien Abductee

2000 Posts

Posted - 04/12/2002 :  08:46:08 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, don't delete them. I can see both sides. And it doesn't matter really to me. I just thought it would go a little way in fixing the problem. But now, since the problem is fixed, then all misunderstandings are understood, so there's no reason to delete anything. Maybe I'm just suggesting deletion while the problems are ongoing, and people are still misunderstanding.

I don't know. But I'm glad it's worked out.

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someguywithaguitar
Chatterbox

USA
122 Posts

Posted - 04/12/2002 :  10:31:47 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Awwww, you fags are gunna make me cry.


You guys should go out and make some friends, get a life, do something outside your computer, please. Talkin about how you guys are best buddies bullshit. Especially you Fluffy, oh boo-hoo, somebody didn't have the patience to read my 50 page long post, let me go to my little corner and die, pussy. I bet you cried when you wrote this topic, oh no, somebody might acually not like me, OH MY GOD! HOW CAN THAT BE!! You probably won't care, but hell, I think your a stupid idiot and an ass hole! :):)

This is just a chat room people, just a chat room.

And how many times do I have to say I'm never leaving??

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joemoe
Try A Little Harder

77 Posts

Posted - 04/12/2002 :  10:33:34 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hahaha, sorry guys, that's pretty funny, hahahahaha.

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Evergreen
Yak Addict

960 Posts

Posted - 04/12/2002 :  11:28:03 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Every(regular friendly)body, I've been a travelin' without my computer so this is the first time I've read the board in a few weeks. I've missed the laughing this board brings to me. I also feel like I need to fly in with my ray gun and dematerialize a few beings. (" Captain if we take all of the carbon out of the carbon unit whats left"? I dunno Scotty....let's try it!) GEEZ...go away for just a small while and come back to all this confusing stuff. What's going on? Wait!.... don't tell me cause I don't want the details. Let's all sing songs and hug one another. Touchy Feely Touchy Feely. "Michael row the boat ashore...LaLaLa. The family's all here and we love each other...Sgwag...are you gagging yet? Let's hope so!!!!

SGWAG....You really just need to leave and find yourself another "CHAT" room. I will hold back from rifling you with nasty comments and simply tell you....the board, world, galaxy, and universe(multiverse), would be a much better place without "your way of thinking". You are just an annoyance to this board, but DANGEROUS to humankind. And what if a post made Fluffy cry? At least the MAN has feelings, which is 2 more things than your poor self will ever experience. Have a little self discipline and try to stay away. You'll never be accepted in the family..."she says in her best Al Pacino voice!
Love, Evergreen
XOXO

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someguywithaguitar
Chatterbox

USA
122 Posts

Posted - 04/12/2002 :  2:42:03 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
OOOOOOkay, thanks.

But unfortunately I'm not going anywhere for a while :):):):):):):):)

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pcbTIM
Alien Abductee

USA
6501 Posts

Posted - 04/12/2002 :  5:29:36 PM  Show Profile  Visit pcbTIM's Homepage  Send pcbTIM an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Hoo-ahh!!

"I do what I can with what I've got."
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victorwootenfan
Alien Abductee

USA
2128 Posts

Posted - 04/12/2002 :  9:06:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
first off thank ya silky, i'm trying to read a bunch of old posts and catch up on things with the regulars, i guess you're right, hopefully soon i'll be able to leave the newbie status that i'm in currently.
Oh yeah when you abbreviate it to VWF, i always see VFW, and am like, damn my grandfather gets those magazines...

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{=HTG=}
Alien Abductee

USA
2342 Posts

Posted - 04/12/2002 :  9:10:05 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
i always see VFW

Oh damn, I might have done some of those by mistake. My bad.


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My_Bad_Side
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Posted - 04/12/2002 :  10:10:39 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok, it's official. I'm calling you VFW from now on.

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victorwootenfan
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Posted - 04/13/2002 :  11:22:43 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ok, from now on my name is VFW, for all those people who name me in a post. Shit, it's close enough, so go right ahead!

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