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rubylith
Fluffy-Esque

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Posted - 01/30/2009 :  3:06:10 PM  Show Profile  Visit rubylith's Homepage  Reply with Quote

gnome44
Yak Addict

749 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2009 :  4:15:06 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't understand the picture...

But I'm definitely looking forward to the Super Bowl.
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dan p.
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Uganda
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Posted - 01/30/2009 :  6:41:46 PM  Show Profile  Send dan p. an AOL message  Reply with Quote
subtle.

this is an example of rhetoric or a tactic i don't get. let's take a huge cultural phenomenon, and politicize it by injecting grand, sweeping problems into it, as if the two are at all related.

the perceived message is that anything short of absolute, obsessive attention to gigantic problems is the same as being ignorant, stupid and/or lazy. even if that is not the intended message, that is the received message. it presents a glaring false dichotomy so huge it's almost funny.

i present to you two separate scenes. in the first, there is a man much like the one pictured in this thread. he is a symbol of ignorance, and perhaps willful ignorance. he signifies laziness and obliviousness. look at his actions. he has done nothing to improve any situation.

in scene two, we have a man who fixates obsessively on massive national or international problems. he is a fountain of passionate and fiery rhetoric, very conscious of the problems that plague our country and world. look at his actions; his voting record, he political evangelicalism, is passion. look at the problems that concern him. they still loom large. his actions have not improved any situation.

what is the difference functionally between the two? i submit there is none.

death to false metal.
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GuitarGuy305
Alien Abductee

USA
2007 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2009 :  6:59:50 PM  Show Profile  Send GuitarGuy305 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dan p.

subtle.

this is an example of rhetoric or a tactic i don't get. let's take a huge cultural phenomenon, and politicize it by injecting grand, sweeping problems into it, as if the two are at all related.

the perceived message is that anything short of absolute, obsessive attention to gigantic problems is the same as being ignorant, stupid and/or lazy. even if that is not the intended message, that is the received message. it presents a glaring false dichotomy so huge it's almost funny.

i present to you two separate scenes. in the first, there is a man much like the one pictured in this thread. he is a symbol of ignorance, and perhaps willful ignorance. he signifies laziness and obliviousness. look at his actions. he has done nothing to improve any situation.

in scene two, we have a man who fixates obsessively on massive national or international problems. he is a fountain of passionate and fiery rhetoric, very conscious of the problems that plague our country and world. look at his actions; his voting record, he political evangelicalism, is passion. look at the problems that concern him. they still loom large. his actions have not improved any situation.

what is the difference functionally between the two? i submit there is none.



One is a Steelers fan and the other is a Cardinals fan?
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PJK
Alien Abductee

USA
4159 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2009 :  7:31:52 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey Dave, I love football so Don't Mess With The Superbowl!!!!j/k

Actually I like football and most sports and I will be watching Sunday night. (Should have been the Eagles though.)

A better cartoon would have been "DEBT" chained to 8 tiny hospital neonatal cribs with 6 little children peering through the hospital nursery window looking at their siblings and a smiling single mom who just gave birth to the litter via fertility drugs! Talk about someone who will get a "bailout!"

Sorry dan, couldn't see your pictures, they didn't show up on my computer, just the little red X.
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dan p.
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Uganda
3776 Posts

Posted - 01/31/2009 :  02:41:31 AM  Show Profile  Send dan p. an AOL message  Reply with Quote
the picture is in my sig and it doesn't have any bearing on anything here.

death to false metal.
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Arthen
Alien Abductee

USA
4845 Posts

Posted - 01/31/2009 :  04:09:17 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I thought it said "Dert" at first. And I was confused? I quickly saw the error of my interpretation. At least the guy has good taste. Stella Artois is one of my favorite lagers.

Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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Arthen
Alien Abductee

USA
4845 Posts

Posted - 02/01/2009 :  02:26:27 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PJK

Hey Dave, I love football so Don't Mess With The Superbowl!!!!j/k

Actually I like football and most sports and I will be watching Sunday night. (Should have been the Eagles though.)

A better cartoon would have been "DEBT" chained to 8 tiny hospital neonatal cribs with 6 little children peering through the hospital nursery window looking at their siblings and a smiling single mom who just gave birth to the litter via fertility drugs! Talk about someone who will get a "bailout!"

Sorry dan, couldn't see your pictures, they didn't show up on my computer, just the little red X.




I was equally disgusted by that. What a sick individual.

Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
cbenc41@hotmail.com
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Hopeful Rolling Waves
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South Sandwich Islands
2154 Posts

Posted - 02/01/2009 :  09:42:18 AM  Show Profile  Send Hopeful Rolling Waves an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Stella is the worst.

http://db.etree.org/hopefulrollingwaves/ < My Trading List
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Arthen
Alien Abductee

USA
4845 Posts

Posted - 02/01/2009 :  1:56:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hopeful Rolling Waves

Stella is the worst.



That's interesting. My least favorite has always been Blanche. Way too melodramatic for my tastes.

Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
cbenc41@hotmail.com
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dan p.
Alien Abductee

Uganda
3776 Posts

Posted - 02/01/2009 :  3:14:51 PM  Show Profile  Send dan p. an AOL message  Reply with Quote
we need to resurrect the beer thread.

death to false metal.
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Hopeful Rolling Waves
Alien Abductee

South Sandwich Islands
2154 Posts

Posted - 02/01/2009 :  3:27:37 PM  Show Profile  Send Hopeful Rolling Waves an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Big Ben with the Golden Girls gag. -1

http://db.etree.org/hopefulrollingwaves/ < My Trading List
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Arthen
Alien Abductee

USA
4845 Posts

Posted - 02/01/2009 :  6:13:36 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hopeful Rolling Waves

Big Ben with the Golden Girls gag. -1



HRW with the missed reference to "Streetcar." -5

Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
cbenc41@hotmail.com
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dan p.
Alien Abductee

Uganda
3776 Posts

Posted - 02/01/2009 :  10:26:04 PM  Show Profile  Send dan p. an AOL message  Reply with Quote
i like how he went right for the three old ladies.

as usual.

death to false metal.
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rubylith
Fluffy-Esque

1915 Posts

Posted - 02/01/2009 :  11:28:52 PM  Show Profile  Visit rubylith's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I love all of you very much and Dan your writing is superb. Holy shit who won?
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Arthen
Alien Abductee

USA
4845 Posts

Posted - 02/02/2009 :  03:45:07 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dan p.

i like how he went right for the three old ladies.

as usual.



I didn't realize HRW was on the prowl for some cougars.

Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
cbenc41@hotmail.com
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dan p.
Alien Abductee

Uganda
3776 Posts

Posted - 02/03/2009 :  03:35:53 AM  Show Profile  Send dan p. an AOL message  Reply with Quote
yes. the hunters have become the hunted.

death to false metal.
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Hopeful Rolling Waves
Alien Abductee

South Sandwich Islands
2154 Posts

Posted - 02/03/2009 :  1:01:26 PM  Show Profile  Send Hopeful Rolling Waves an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Hey, I like some prune juice after a good lay.

http://db.etree.org/hopefulrollingwaves/ < My Trading List
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