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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
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 Posted - 11/08/2006 : 1:11:40 PM
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Fuck yeah. Thank God.
Time for a "Fresh Perspective"... |
Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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KevinLesko
Alien Abductee
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Posted - 11/08/2006 : 1:26:13 PM
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This is awesome, I'm watching the press conference right now. Finally, I can feel good about an election.
Did you hear that freaking joke Bush made to the new female Speaker of the House? He joked something along the lines of, "I know a good interior designer who can help you pick out some new drapes for you new office". WHAT???? There was complete silence in the room. I couldn't beleive his first respose to such a historic event as having a new, female, democratic speaker of the house by making a joke.  |
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
4845 Posts |
Posted - 11/08/2006 : 1:29:23 PM
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He's being fairly cavalier in regards to the results of the "thumping."
Whoo. |
Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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PJK
Alien Abductee
USA
4159 Posts |
Posted - 11/08/2006 : 3:35:44 PM
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Hey, don't want to burst your bubble guys, but while its great to see Rumsfeld gone, our President still believes in "winning" the war in Iraq. I am not in the mood to elaborate so use your imagination, short of making Iraq part of the USA.....yeah I know, ridiculous idea...(a feeble attempt at sarcasm).....there will be no such thing as "winning" that war. When Bush gets that through his head, maybe things will change. Until then probably another 800-1,000 of our service men and women will lose their lives in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Likewise, while the House and hopefully the Senate will be in the Democratic control, again I would say don't get too happy yet. |
"It is hard enough to remember my opinions, without also remembering my reasons for them!"Friedrich Nietzsche |
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therippa
Fluffy-Esque
Kazakhstan
1099 Posts |
Posted - 11/08/2006 : 4:48:05 PM
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Dems have the house.
Dems have the senate (once Allen stops being a bozo, Webb won)
Santorum is once again the frothy mixture of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the byproduct of anal sex.
And Rummy resigns.
Open the champagne! |
Aspiring to Be Fluffy-Esque an Alien Abductee! |
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rubylith
Fluffy-Esque
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Posted - 11/08/2006 : 6:55:34 PM
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How exactly does one "win" a war anyway?
This means nothing, more of the same. Sure it is kind of good, but the dems are pro-war, only some have some form of mental stability.
Nancy Pelosi is a shill, she is on record saying she will no proceed with impeachment for Bush.
So while all the democrats celebrate, I hope something good changes, but, as always, it should't be expected from not just ours, but any government that resembles so closely to a totalitarian regime. |
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Ranting Thespian
Fluffy-Esque
USA
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Posted - 11/08/2006 : 9:35:42 PM
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Originally posted by rubylith
How exactly does one "win" a war anyway?
Easy, you stand on a boat, behind a podium, with a big banner saying "Mission Acomplished" .
I mean, come on. We won Vietnam, right? We won in Korea, right?
. . . um, I just read my encyclopedia, and for some strange reason we really did not win either of those. Hmmmmm. Oh, I got it! They were missing the Banners! |
Not communicating can hurt more than any word that can be said -
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
4845 Posts |
Posted - 11/08/2006 : 9:37:58 PM
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Originally posted by rubylith
How exactly does one "win" a war anyway?
This means nothing, more of the same. Sure it is kind of good, but the dems are pro-war, only some have some form of mental stability.
Nancy Pelosi is a shill, she is on record saying she will no proceed with impeachment for Bush.
So while all the democrats celebrate, I hope something good changes, but, as always, it should't be expected from not just ours, but any government that resembles so closely to a totalitarian regime.
They don't have the numbers to impeach Bush. |
Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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Robin
Yak Addict
USA
598 Posts |
Posted - 11/08/2006 : 10:31:42 PM
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Originally posted by Arthen
They don't have the numbers to impeach Bush.
Very true,, and while it is not a victory exactly,it gives me a little hope that we will still have an environment left to fight for. The war...that we'll have to keep the Dems on track about that's for sure. That and anything else we have an opinion about. The Dems didn't win, the Republicans lost is how I see it. But doing the dance of joy that Rumsfeld is gone he's evil, Peace, Robin |
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Ranting Thespian
Fluffy-Esque
USA
1283 Posts |
Posted - 11/09/2006 : 01:06:59 AM
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I'd love to see everyone resign, but Bush pushes on to do it all by himself. Imagine him straightening the cameras, and such, then writing his speeches (my god, what would he say with nothing at all written for him by someone else?). Doing everything, it would be hysterical. Might as well sync up comedy music and key the sound effects, and have a camera in every room . . . except the bedroom (god knows what he does in there, nothing sexualy I bet but just creepy. Like watching Bratz in a pink night gown with a teddy bear).
That would be a reality show I'd watch  . |
Not communicating can hurt more than any word that can be said -
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Zachmozach
Fluffy-Esque
USA
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Posted - 11/09/2006 : 2:20:10 PM
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| Well it's all good to see. It's not so much of a step in the right direction as it applying the brakes to a government headed off the tracks. The empire is dying. |
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therippa
Fluffy-Esque
Kazakhstan
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Posted - 11/09/2006 : 5:06:39 PM
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Zachmozach
Fluffy-Esque
USA
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Posted - 11/09/2006 : 5:29:43 PM
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rubylith
Fluffy-Esque
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Posted - 11/11/2006 : 01:26:40 AM
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9/11 Truth Remains The Critical Issue
Democrat leadership treacherously joins forces with Neo-Cons to take wind out of sails, massive effort to keep 9/11 truth at the forefront of public thinking needs to be re-doubled
Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones
Prison Planet
Friday, November 10, 2006
9/11 truth is the make or break issue that will define freedom in America for future generations. The steam-valve effect that the election of the co-opted Democratic leadership which has already capitulated to Bush has had on some areas of the 9/11truth movement is extremely dangerous. We need to re-double our efforts to expose the 9/11 inside job!
Our previous article, 9/11 Truth Is Dying Inside the Liberal and Progressive Movements While Exploding World-Wide, provoked a firestorm of reaction overnight, most of it positive, some negative, and some that completely missed the crux of what we were trying to say.
Unlike the claims of previous 9/11 leaders who declared the movement to be dead and jumped ship, we stress that 9/11 truth remains the central and core issue of our efforts to apply the defibrillator paddles to America and try and shock her back to life.
9/11 is not a dead letter issue, it will never be a dead letter issue and just because the establishment changed its bird cage lining doesn't mean we can switch off, go to sleep, and expect the Democrats to fight our corner for us. It's not going to happen.
9/11 is the issue that will never die but Democrats have already openly announced their intentions to capitulate to Bush and join forces with Bush and the Neo-Cons - out of the gates both Pelosi and Dean have made it clear that no impeachment proceedings will take place. No new 9/11 investigation and no inquiry into Iraq. The majority of Americans want to see impeachment proceedings begin but the Democrat shills have pledged to scupper any efforts to even investigate the high crimes and misdemeanours of the Bush crime syndicate. An www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2006/101106Impeached.htm" target="_blank">MSNBC poll today shows that 86% want impeachment.
It's analogous to a fire starting in our home, we call the fire department (the Democrats), they show up and instead of putting out the fire they start barbecuing hot dogs on skewers. They have already sworn to protect the Bush crime family and its associated gaggle of villains from any form of criminal proceedings. How is this in any form a step forward in getting justice for the victims of 9/11?
9/11 truth has just reached critical mass awakening, the vast majority of Americans don't believe the official story, and it cannot be allowed to die as a result of the naive apathy of trusting the treacherous Democrat leadership.
We simply cannot allow the movement to lose momentum just because the tires have been changed on the juggernaut of the one party system. The fire of 9/11 truth is dying down, we just need to add more wood to the fire!
We cannot let the enemy snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.
The dictatorial martial law powers that Bush has put in place must immediately be repealed and the criminals responsible for Iraq and 9/11 investigated for treason, otherwise the same gang of crooks will simply orbit back into power in 15 years like the Iran-Contra crowd, and we'll still be left with the architecture of fascism to be exploited by a Hillary Clinton or a John McCain in 2008.
To put it bluntly, since Tuesday we have noticed the wind being taken out of the sails of 9/11 truth - and we are pissed off about it.
Government sponsored terror is the zeitgeist of how populations are enslaved throughout history and it remains the critical issue.
This is a rallying call to the troops, to not let 9/11 truth wither away on the vine and die just because the establishment decided to play Team B. Furthermore, hold the Democrats responsible in equal measure to the Neo-Cons. If you know a murder has been committed and you give safe passage to the perpetrators are you not also committing a crime?
Here's a sample of the negative comments we received and our response to them.
"I'm sorry, but posting crap NO MATTER WHAT THE OUTCOME is useless. It's the sign of a parasite. No matter what happens it will be torn down. Would they really be happier with a necon win? What would that entail? A bloodbath. Maybe it's time to stop spinning chicken little tales and start looking at reality and what is POSSIBLE. Personally, I've had enough fucking pointing out of the obvious problems and am waiting for some fucking solutions."
This individual has settled for the "lesser of two evils" and attacks us for not offering solutions. We have clearly outlined our solutions - lobby the co-opted Democrat leadership for repeal, investigation and impeachment - or hold them responsible as collaborators. This individual calls for solutions yet their solution is seemingly to let Democrats run defense for the Neo-Con crooks. Will Democrats prevent a "bloodbath"? Nancy Pelosi has vehemently expressed her support for the war on terror and John Kerry based his 2004 election campaign around hyping a war with Iran. Hillary Clinton, who is now likely to be the next President, fully supports the war in Iraq. Do these Democrat kingpins have any motivation to prevent further bloodshed?
"You should be at least grateful the Dems want to implement the suggestions of the 9-11 commission, something the neocons refused to do. Besides, these people haven't even taken office yet. Added to that, do something productive with your 9-11 paranoia."
The 9/11 Commission was staffed by insider apologists Kean, Zelikow, and Hamilton who went to great lengths to cover-up the most important 9/11 issues and refused to include anything in their final report which even hinted at complicity. They also refused to take NORAD to task for lying to them under oath until over a year later. The suggestions of the 9/11 Commission would have beefed up Bush's police state to a whole new level so the fact that "the Dems want to implement the suggestions of the 9-11 commission," is more reason to distance ourselves from the Dems.
"OMG, you people... Leave something to be desired. 2 weeks ago it was all about the neocons and 9-11. Now you have it twisted to the Democrats and 9-11. What is it? Who is it? Who should be resposable? It sounds like your confused about your own theory. So basicly, whoever is in charge, you are going to somehow blame them and expect them to be resposable for 911, even if these people we not even in power on 911. Well, that sounds paranoid. You can only have it one way. What the hell is up with you people. The whole time the Bush regime was in power you begged for change. Now you have it, but your still complaining.
We have change? Pelosi and Dean have totally capitulated and promised to protect Bush from any investigation and you call that change? Pelosi has painstakingly kissed-up to Bush and agreed to work with him on the mass amnesty program for illegal aliens - is that change? It's not about the Neo-Cons and 9/11, it's not about the Democrats and 9/11 - it's about 9/11 - and any individuals that seek to sabotage bringing the perpetrators of 9/11 to justice, whether they be Republican or Democrat, shall be held responsible.
Here are comments from level-headed people who understood the message we were trying to put across.
"I don't think the title of the article should be considered premature melancholy, rather, its Alex's way of slapping our faces and keeping us focused in the wake of a small victory in a huge battle. Keep attacking!"
"It is true, the challenge is greater, the article is correct to convey a sense of urgency. The danger now is that, as the truth about 9/11 emerges into the mainstream, those that are responsible for it are moving into the distance and using their many disguises to throw off the scent."
"You know there is something very, very wrong when the big winners of an election (Pelosi, Dean & the Democrats) are the ones making the promises & concessions!!!"
"Pelosi's lost the plot! Her declaration may fit the bill for the Dem's platform of Corporate cowardice, but it won't wash against a tidal storm of 9/11TRIAL! -reminders. Freeway bloggers, let's go! Redoubling our efforts is clearly in order, and that call is resounding throughout the politically savvy web-community."
"You just don't seem to get it yet! There is only one party, and it's called the Demopublican Party. They take turns taking the hits and appearing to oppose each other so they can stay in power."
"You are absolutely correct. Without investigation and punishment, mark my words, history WILL repeat itself. To forgive corruption is to reward corruption. Pedophilia, bribery and money laundering are pinpricks next to the bloodbath of this illegal war. We have punished the Duke, Ney, Foley, Abramoff and other bit players. The fascist warmongers responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands must be punished proportionately. Now."
"The bottom line is that the people that are falling for this latest dog and pony show were never truth movement members. This latest Democratic "win" will only serve to slow things down. The "sleeping giant," as Alex calls it, will continue to awake slowly, just as it always has."
"Absolutely dead on target. Today I witnessed many friends who were just beginning to wake up suddenly rolling over and going back to sleep. This latest (brilliant) maneuver by the elite was a direct attack on the truth movement. We should not have been surprised."
"Let's not be fooled into into complacency! The same corporate/bank interests are at the helm. This a challenge for 9/11 truth. Let's answer the challenge by re-doubling our efforts!"
"There needs to be an organized flood of petitions to our senators and other officials to open a new investigation into 9/11. I have to believe that there are some good people in government who have not yet heard the truth on this subject. I hope that those leaders in the 9/11 truth movement can coordinate their efforts toward a movement like this."
"To those who seek truth and justice for America Don't be discouraged. Those who genuinely seek the truth and strive to share it will never be quelled or silenced. The fight to take back our country can be won one small victory at a time. It was a victory for the Democrats to win control of congress, because it shows that the American people have at least recognized that problems in the Bush regime exist and change needs to come to Washington. We are painfully aware that the Democrats are no great saviors. We can not give up the fight, but we can claim victory when we see small steps toward change. For it is with one step at a time that we plod forward toward our goal of a once again free America."
This is a rallying cry to those out there who really want justice and freedom for future generations. Are we to allow the Democrats to toady-up to Bush and the Neo-Cons for their own egotistic selfish power hunger and let the criminals walk away, only to return once more, or should we hold their feet to the fire and demand repeal, investigation and impeachment - which is it to be?
Long live 9/11 truth! |
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Au Revoir Rumsfeld
