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chip616
Is Anybody Here?
USA
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 Posted - 11/21/2001 : 2:14:46 PM
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Any jazz heads wandering out here on the board. Drop me an email we can exchange favortie artists and shit.O by the way, anybody want to check out some nasty guitar players, pick up Mike Stern's "Play", it featured 3 of the best players ive ever heard. Mike, who played for Miles Davis, John Scofield who also played for Miles, and Bill Frisell. And his rythm section is fuckin' tight.
peace
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Jason
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Posted - 11/21/2001 : 3:14:35 PM
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I appreciate jazz very much man...After playing for about 10 years now I think it is just a natural progression to move towards jazz...as far as playing goes. Oddly enough though I like more brass than guitar...My favorite would probably have to be John Coltrane...
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ujohnb01
Chatterbox
USA
107 Posts |
Posted - 11/21/2001 : 4:55:19 PM
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On the 1st day God created Tim. |
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ujohnb01
Chatterbox
USA
107 Posts |
Posted - 11/21/2001 : 4:55:50 PM
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Dave Brubeck rulz!
On the 1st day God created Tim. |
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Dave S
Chatterbox
USA
145 Posts |
Posted - 11/21/2001 : 10:02:34 PM
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Yeah man, Jazz is definitely my first love, music-wise. (Up there with Tim) I'm a sax man myself and lately i've been very much into Phil Woods, that guy was freakin badass =D Just got his album Musique Du Bois from cd now on monday, it was recently re-released by 32 Jazz. Other players that i'm into are Joshua Redman, he's great and he's still touring, that's a bonus. Also Michael Brecker, Eric Marienthal... Dexter Gordon, Sonny Rollins, and of course Coltrane....Parker and Stitt not so much, I admire their technique and skill at improv but their music just doesn't hold that much emotion for me. Maybe i'm just not advanced enough jazz-wise to fully appreciate their playing.
Other than sax, I appreciate Tim's jazz playing, along with Miles, and basically anyone associated with quintet. Been listening to a little bit of Metheny lately, not too into that though...Bela Fleck and Victor Wooten are great, they definitely have a style all of their own, and the Yellow Jackets are always interesting to listen too. If you have any good jazz mp3s/shn that i might like drop me a line.
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Dave S
Chatterbox
USA
145 Posts |
Posted - 11/21/2001 : 10:03:34 PM
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Speaking of Dave Brubeck....Paul Desmond was a decent sax player too, i really like the smoothness he plays with on Take Five.
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
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Posted - 11/21/2001 : 11:21:52 PM
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scofield is awesome. i have one of his cds...um...a go-go. good shit.
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Sarah
Is Anybody Here?
USA
33 Posts |
Posted - 11/22/2001 : 02:12:44 AM
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Yeah I've gotten really into jazz the past year. miles davis, sketches of spain is the sound track to my life. i love it, i live in new orleans and im around good music most of the time. Im still in high school so i started goin this a school for the arts, New Orleans Creative Center for Arts, or nocca and im in a Jazz ensemble and i play guitar so i get to learn so much and its just beautiful. they have a huge music library and i can take cd's home all the time so i have access to a lot of good stuff. coltrane is great i really love parker and Charles Mingus. he makes me want to play upwright bass. I like all kinds of music and its great to have a jazz influence on my playing. also i think i know the guitar better as far as soloing goes cause i can be more expressive and free with whatever comes and i can hear the notes in my head before i play em.
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ujohnb01
Chatterbox
USA
107 Posts |
Posted - 11/22/2001 : 05:36:04 AM
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Do you all know how fucked up Miles was?
On the 1st day God created Tim. |
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Fluffy
Administrator
USA
10739 Posts |
Posted - 11/22/2001 : 08:57:22 AM
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OK here we go:
John McLaughlin and Mahavishnu Orchestra
Shakti
Stanley Clarke
Billy Cobham
Tony Williams
Jaco Patorius
Joe Zawinul
Weather Report
Coltrane
Miles(especially Tribute to Jack Johnson)
Professor Longhair(one of my all time faves)
Louis Armstrong
Glenn Miller
Stan Getz
Django Reinhardt
SadnotHappy
Jean Luc Ponty plays Zappa
Frank Zappa(Jazz from Hell)
John Zorn and with Naked City(freaky shit)
Return to Forever
Larry Coryell(you should all check out his acoustic stuff his
electric stuff is pretty amazing as well. He has a
couple of duet acoustic albums with Phillip Catherine
that are well worth a listen)
Al DiMeola John McLaughlin Paco DeLucia "Passion Grace & Fire"
and "Friday Night in San Francisco" (these 2 albums
are amazing! 3 acoustic guitars going at it. 1 is mixed
to the left channel and 1 to the right channel and 1 in
the middle, so you can distinguish each players parts.
AMAZING We listen to these on tour alot.)
Jazz vocalist faves:
Cab Calloway
Billie Holiday
Al Jarreau(this guy can skat)
Bessie Smith
Man I could go on forever, guess I would have to say those are the ones that top the list. Anybody interested in recommendations I would be more than happy. JAZZ IS DEAD!!!!
Peace & Keep the Faith
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chip616
Is Anybody Here?
USA
46 Posts |
Posted - 11/22/2001 : 11:37:47 AM
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Yea Fluffy, Friday Night in S.F is definately fucking amazing, I was just dropped when I that album. One of my other faves is Kind of Blue by Miles, it reminds me of tim when he plays with puke matrix, the song just have little signposts about where the players are supposed to be and so much of it is straight emotional improv, just awesome. Hey thanks for the list man I know and love most of them but Im gonna check out some of those vocalists you mentioned.
peace
P.S. See if you can convince Tim to scat during Loose Interpretations. :)
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Fluffy
Administrator
USA
10739 Posts |
Posted - 11/24/2001 : 2:26:00 PM
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I forgot to mention one that I discovered right b4 this last tour.
12th House "The Twelfth House"
It is like Pink Floyd meets Jazz with some pre-70's dead type jamming. It is awesome! It's on Sonic Dust Records. Check it out!
Peace & Keep the Faith
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KevinLesko
Alien Abductee
3712 Posts |
Posted - 11/25/2001 : 12:25:56 AM
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I love Jazz!! And I actually have to admit that it was DMB that introduced me to Jazz. I've yet to get into the older stuff but I'd definitely like to! Here is what I listen to right now... keep in mind I'm a new fan.
Medeski Martin & Wood
Bela & da Tones
Soko
Greg Howard
John Mclaughlin (friday night in SF baby!!!!)
Ottmar Liebert
VTT2
Victor Wooten
Zappa
That seems like a small list... I must be missing stuff.
Anyways I forgot to mentio that I only dig fusion jazz/ avant-gard kinda stuff. I can't stand Smooth Jazz. (gag)
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Fluffy
Administrator
USA
10739 Posts |
Posted - 11/25/2001 : 01:07:03 AM
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Kenny G baby! Now thats jazz, NOT!!!
Peace & Keep the Faith
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Dave S
Chatterbox
USA
145 Posts |
Posted - 11/25/2001 : 9:18:21 PM
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Oh my god! They killed Kenny!
....i WISH....
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Silky The Pimp
Alien Abductee
3321 Posts |
Posted - 11/25/2001 : 11:25:48 PM
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Jazz is good.
-J
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Fluffy
Administrator
USA
10739 Posts |
Posted - 11/26/2001 : 12:03:10 AM
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Kenny is NOT........................... Jazz!!!
Peace & Keep the Faith
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Silky The Pimp
Alien Abductee
3321 Posts |
Posted - 11/26/2001 : 12:12:05 AM
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I love how he is considered to be a joke by all of his contemporaries.
-J
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Fluffy
Administrator
USA
10739 Posts |
Posted - 11/26/2001 : 12:14:22 AM
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yet he still sells millions of CDs. HMMMMMMMMMM A true mystery of the world, kinda like where the hell did Xar come from!
Peace & Keep the Faith
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Silky The Pimp
Alien Abductee
3321 Posts |
Posted - 11/26/2001 : 12:17:09 AM
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Doctors have to have SOMETHING to play in their offices while they check pulses, give prostate exams, drill teeth etc...
-J
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Fluffy
Administrator
USA
10739 Posts |
Posted - 11/26/2001 : 12:34:17 AM
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Waynes World, Waynes World, Party Time, Excellent!!!!!!
Peace & Keep the Faith
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Saint Jude
Alien Abductee
USA
2144 Posts |
Posted - 11/26/2001 : 12:36:03 AM
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Party on Fluf!
Patriotism is a maggot in their heads. - Henry D. Thoreau |
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Dave S
Chatterbox
USA
145 Posts |
Posted - 11/26/2001 : 12:40:22 AM
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Kenny is jazz for people who know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about jazz. So his 'music' doesn't even have to really be jazz for people to consider it jazz... all it takes is for Oprah to tell them that it's good and they will buy it...and they tell their friends that it's good, and their friends buy it...and so on...helping our least-favorite guy (next to mr.durst) sell millions of cds. anyone can sell cds with major backing by a record label...but only someone with true talent can have real fans like tim.
As for why doctors play kenny, it's probably because it is so mind numbing that it serves as a pain killer....seriously =D
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FredDurst
Is Anybody Here?
19 Posts |
Posted - 11/26/2001 : 01:04:06 AM
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Hold on Now!! I can take the abuse, but comparisons to Kenny G, I may just have to open a can of whoop ass and sing a chorus of "Who let the dogs out" on your ass.(Great song by the way, wish I had written it) Catchy little ditty, I may just have to download it off Napster. Woops, did I say that?
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crash258
Chatterbox
USA
256 Posts |
Posted - 11/26/2001 : 01:25:51 AM
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dude "who let the dogs out" is complete trash,
with a login name like "fred durst" i dont think your entitled to say wat is or isnt "good music"
-p
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chip616
Is Anybody Here?
USA
46 Posts |
Posted - 11/26/2001 : 4:22:17 PM
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Hey this one goes out to "Freddurst", dude why dont you keep your shit to yourself, this is a site for tim fan's to talk about music or anything else just dont fuckin ruin it by bein a dick and saying stupid stuff.
peace
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Sarah
Is Anybody Here?
USA
33 Posts |
Posted - 11/26/2001 : 11:22:48 PM
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A random question. has anyone ever seen the instructional bass video by flea of the chilli peppers?with river phoenix hosting? theyre a decent band but flea is actually a pretty talented musician. It is the absolute funniest thing i have ever seen in my life. The kid is crazy but he knows jazz real well and he sings this armstrong song thats like " all that meat and nooo potatoesss... just ain't right like greeeennn toommatoes" mman. he's so goofy and innocent like dopey and he scratches his head alot and uses lil words, but he really knows how to listen to people and he emphasized that whith improvisational music you have to listenin and respect the people your playing with and love is what its all about. then he made a bunch of funny noises
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Fleabass76
Fluffy-Esque
USA
1026 Posts |
Posted - 11/26/2001 : 11:37:48 PM
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Yeah, i saw it, it's a hilarious video, even though it's not very informative from a bass player's perspective, but it's still in my video collection just because i love how someone can be so good while knowing (bookwise/theory) so little. This bass player in my reading class at Music Tech was ripping on him saying that he overplays too much and relies on slapping to get through songs and i almost slapped him. I made him buy Blood Sugar Sex Magik so he could hear how supportive and articulate he can be.
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Sarah
Is Anybody Here?
USA
33 Posts |
Posted - 11/26/2001 : 11:48:57 PM
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wow, im surprised someone knew what i was talking about. i think hes great he's an example of how great musicians are defined by their tecnique and all that good stuff
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Fluffy
Administrator
USA
10739 Posts |
Posted - 11/27/2001 : 03:26:21 AM
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Not only by his technique, but also by his style. Some would argue that they are the same thing, but I disagree. I have seen lots of slappin bass players, but none come close to the originality and sheer precision of Flea. There are some others out there but you have to delve more into funk to find them. But Flea still slaps the hell out of it and still manages to make it melodic and rhythmic all at the same time. Flea is the man!!
Peace & Keep the Faith
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Xar666
Yak Addict
USA
546 Posts |
Posted - 11/27/2001 : 05:56:28 AM
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Fleabass76
Fluffy-Esque
USA
1026 Posts |
Posted - 11/27/2001 : 8:55:33 PM
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Yeah, someone can have "perfect" technique and still not be musical, that's where style comes in. Flea definitely has that. I think it's interesting that a post that started w/ jazz has come around to talking about Flea, not that there's anything wrong w/ that...so to segway back into jazz-if anyone wants to hear some great jazz bass players, check out Stanley Clarke, Ron Carter, Paul Chambers, Victor Wooten, John Pattitucci, and there are so many others. Peace
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Fluffy
Administrator
USA
10739 Posts |
Posted - 12/04/2001 : 04:35:07 AM
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May I add Jaco Pastorius to that list?
Peace & Keep the Faith
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Fleabass76
Fluffy-Esque
USA
1026 Posts |
Posted - 12/04/2001 : 10:40:41 PM
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quote:
May I add Jaco Pastorius to that list?
Peace & Keep the Faith
Fluffy ( <>..<> )
Yeah, and you can slap me in the face for not mentioning him...
"Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?"
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Fluffy
Administrator
USA
10739 Posts |
Posted - 12/05/2001 : 03:02:54 AM
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No slapping needed(unless your are into that kinda thing) Besides, I would rather see some Stanley Clarke slappin any day!
Peace & Keep the Faith
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crash258
Chatterbox
USA
256 Posts |
Posted - 12/05/2001 : 3:43:09 PM
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Technique and Style,
two different things,
-p
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Fluffy
Administrator
USA
10739 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2001 : 06:13:08 AM
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Better late than never, crash. Thanx for the backup.
Peace & Keep the Faith
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Fluffy
Administrator
USA
10739 Posts |
Posted - 04/14/2002 : 06:17:53 AM
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I just thought with all the FNG's talking about Wooten and VTT and similar subjects, they might like to read some old comments by the board on some great JAZZ acts!!
Peace & Keep the Faith
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Evergreen
Yak Addict
960 Posts |
Posted - 04/14/2002 : 2:32:24 PM
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You probably answered this on another post but does TR have any major jazz influences?
If any of you get the chance to see Charlie Hunter you should go. He's an amazing fusion jazz guitarist whos kinda like a cross between Pat Martino and Scofield. He's not like anyone really but if you like either Martino or Scofield you'd love CH.
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victorwootenfan
Alien Abductee
USA
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Posted - 04/14/2002 : 8:44:21 PM
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jazz, let's see...here's my list of people
bela fleck and the flecktones
victor wooten solo stuff
vital tech tones
uncle moe's space wagon
charles mingus
jaco pastorius(god)
stanlet clarke
marcus miller
john coltrane
weather report
anything jazz mandolin
ray brown
oscar peterson trio
marting medeski wood
joni mitchell
pat metheny
and the list goes on...
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Fluffy
Administrator
USA
10739 Posts |
Posted - 04/15/2002 : 4:24:08 PM
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EVERGREEN asked:quote:
You probably answered this on another post but does TR have any major jazz influences?
Tim has had alot of jazz influences, he spent a good portion of his life only listening to jazz. I would say, if he had to pick the one who had influenced him the most, it would probably be John McLaughlin. Especially in McLaughlin's Shakti period. Hope this helps, GREAT to see you back, missed ya!!
Peace & Keep the Faith
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Evergreen
Yak Addict
960 Posts |
Posted - 05/07/2002 : 4:29:25 PM
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A friend just gave me the Shakti recording, by JM....it's sooooooo good! Independent of space and time I'd say. I think the recording is from the 70's or something, but you'd never guess when it was recorded. It goes from trippy spacey eastern-like stuff into incredible fusion guitar stuff and back and forth. I'm still not sure how that man's fingers move so quickly.
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dirtysloth
Fluffy-Esque
USA
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Posted - 05/07/2002 : 8:45:13 PM
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I'm listening to a JM song called "The Wish" which I'm downloading right now. I can definitely see how this man has had a huge influence on Tim. I've never really taken the time to listen to his work. It looks like it's going to influence me too!
Peace,
Patrick
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powdrdogdmb
Chatterbox
USA
131 Posts |
Posted - 05/08/2002 : 09:51:35 AM
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I think these guys need to be added onto the "working list": Stanley Turrentine, Branford Marsalis, Wynton Marsalis, and Mr. B. Goodman.
Peace Be With
-WBB
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Evergreen
Yak Addict
960 Posts |
Posted - 05/08/2002 : 10:10:18 AM
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Oh my!!! how could we have forgotten them. The Marsalis boys are definite Hall of Famers. And I often listen to Benny on the way to work, bouncing all around the car all psyched(more energizing than the coffee). TR message buddy Hall of Famers that is. I had a little music lesson last night and found out JM's band collaboration is Remember Shakti not the recording's name. Fluffy can probably straighten me out on this. JM has done so much collaborative stuff it still mixes me up a little. All I know is it is all just so amazing. I think the stuff with Billy Cobham is my favorite stuff, but its kinda like TR's stuff....who could ever pick a fav!
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victorwootenfan
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USA
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Posted - 05/09/2002 : 9:33:34 PM
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fleabass, you are the man! all those great bass players you mentioned, are so awesome! i'm really heavily into the bass playing style of music, supporting and solo work. some of the new guys that are great with that are stu hamm, michael manring, adam nitti...pretty amazing work! and for old-school upright standards, charles mingus, ray brown. God i love the bass!
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enthuTIMsiast
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Posted - 05/09/2002 : 9:57:41 PM
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They Stu him cause they love him.
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