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HotKoreanGirl
Chatterbox
130 Posts |
 Posted - 05/12/2005 : 12:03:41 PM
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We all love music. We love music because of the way it makes us feel--it sticks in our heads, we dwell on it, it's inextricably linked to memories and associated with almost everything we experience. Ok i'm starting to sound cheesy, but it's true.
Now onto the point, which if anyone cares, please dispute:
Radiohead sucks.
Yes, they suck a big fat one.
I wish they would go on stage before everyshow and say something like:
"We will now use our limited musical ability to express something trite in a pretentious way"
Yes they have catchy melodies, yes some of their lyrics are provocative, flowing and ironic...Fine. But it still sucks. Why? Someone tell me?
No, they are not 3-4 chord simpletons, yet their complexity escapes me and I am left wondering why they are so worshiped.
I agree subterranian homesick alien is good to smoke pot and chill to.
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therippa
Fluffy-Esque
Kazakhstan
1099 Posts |
Posted - 05/12/2005 : 12:08:11 PM
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We all love people. We love people because of the way they make us feel--it sticks in our heads, we dwell on it, it's inextricably linked to memories and associated with almost everything we experience. Ok i'm starting to sound cheesy, but it's true.
Now onto the point, which if anyone cares, please dispute:
HotKoreanGirl sucks.
Yes, she sucks a big fat one.
I wish she put a disclaimer in her sig saying something like:
"I will now use my limited thinking ability to express something trite in a pretentious way"
Yes she has a catchy username, yes she asks if anyone here is horny and flirts a lot...Fine. But she still sucks. Why? Someone tell me?
No, she is not a jetta driving simpleton, yet her complexity escapes me and I am left wondering why she even posts here in the first place.
I agree that some of the shitty music she does like is good to smoke pot and chill to. |
Aspiring to Be Fluffy-Esque an Alien Abductee! |
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HotKoreanGirl
Chatterbox
130 Posts |
Posted - 05/12/2005 : 12:10:24 PM
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| no you suck, and so does radiohead |
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enthuTIMsiast
Alien Abductee
6990 Posts |
Posted - 05/12/2005 : 12:20:47 PM
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no YOU suck for being a hot Korean girl and not having posted pictures of yourself yet. There. Someone had to say it. I'll be that guy..
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Tim Reynolds Downloads
I am not the albatross of love, I am the human ellipsis. I am dot dot dot. - Leo Kottke
I hate beating people over the head with anything. We can all make up our own minds. What we don’t have is enough music. More music please. - Leo Kottke |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
3776 Posts |
Posted - 05/12/2005 : 12:24:48 PM
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i don't care for radiohead myself. i also don't care for your reasoning behind saying they suck. let's take a look at what you said. you made the following points
1. they have "limited musical ability."
2. their lyrics are good.
3. they have catchy melodies
4. they're not "3-4 chord simpletons
5. their complexity escapes you.
nowhere have you indicated why they suck as stated in 1. in fact, you've done just the opposite. you've explained why they're good in 3 and 4. 5 is more of a relfection on you than anyone else. and 2 is besides the point because lyrics are words, and not music. they're just pegs to hang rhythm and pitch on.
i don't think i understand. they suck because they write good melodies, aren't 3 chord hacks and you can't understand them? where does the part where they suck come in? when engaging in a musical argument, or any argument really, it's customary to back up your opinion with examples and facts, not back up the opposite of your opinion. |
death to false metal. |
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HotKoreanGirl
Chatterbox
130 Posts |
Posted - 05/12/2005 : 12:25:01 PM
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haha, cool :) I suppose i do suck in some ways, but the more pertenant issue is:
Radiohead.
Are they amazing, or just a bunch of experimental newbs dying for intense buttsex. |
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HotKoreanGirl
Chatterbox
130 Posts |
Posted - 05/12/2005 : 12:27:31 PM
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| agreed. I cannot seem to defend why they suck...instead, only seem to give evidence as to why they might be good...that's where you come in...why do they suck? Why do I not care for them? Seriously...it bugs me...I can't get into them...even with all that stuff I mentioned, i should be happy as a clam swimming in their musical genius. But I am not at all...why? |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
3776 Posts |
Posted - 05/12/2005 : 12:30:26 PM
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| eh. i don't go out of my way to listen to them. for all their complexity, complexity which is debatable, nothing in their music has ever really caught my attention. |
death to false metal. |
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therippa
Fluffy-Esque
Kazakhstan
1099 Posts |
Posted - 05/12/2005 : 12:38:02 PM
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Originally posted by dan p.
eh. i don't go out of my way to listen to them. for all their complexity, complexity which is debatable, nothing in their music has ever really caught my attention.
Radiohead didn't really grab my attention until Hail to the Thief came out and I saw them perform on $2 Bill on MTV2. There is something very pink-floydish about them that made me start listening. I've found that the songs with deep lyrics are usually pretty simple musically speaking, and the musically complex songs have pretty simple lyrics. |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
3776 Posts |
Posted - 05/12/2005 : 12:42:09 PM
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| yeah, i can't really say that i care all that much about what the lyrics say. if i wanted really good wordcraft, i'd read a poem or a book or something like that. something where words are the primary focus. |
death to false metal. |
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HotKoreanGirl
Chatterbox
130 Posts |
Posted - 05/12/2005 : 12:57:22 PM
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i think comparing radiohead to pink floyd is a bit blasphemous.
I understand what you're saying, but pink floyd is so much grander in scale--so epic sounding. I've heard the shows they put on have become legendary.
It just occured to me, Radiohead has a very puberty-like sound. It the music is like an experimental pituitary gland expanding at a great rate--too fast for itself, so that things sound akward and puberty-ish.
Definitly coming of age music. |
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HotKoreanGirl
Chatterbox
130 Posts |
Posted - 05/12/2005 : 1:08:29 PM
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Originally posted by HotKoreanGirl
i think comparing radiohead to pink floyd is a bit blasphemous.
I understand what you're saying, but pink floyd is so much grander in scale--so epic sounding. I've heard the shows they put on have become legendary.
It just occured to me, Radiohead has a very puberty-like sound. It is as if the music is being generated by an experimental pituitary gland expanding at a great rate--too fast for itself, so that things sound akward and puberty-ish.
And that stupid song with the lyrics "Killer Caaaarrrrrs!" 14-year old puberty stoner music.
Definitly coming of age music.
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rubylith
Fluffy-Esque
1915 Posts |
Posted - 05/12/2005 : 1:21:44 PM
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| she said buttsex... |
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Saint Jude
Alien Abductee
USA
2144 Posts |
Posted - 05/12/2005 : 2:16:00 PM
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I agree subterranian homesick alien is good to smoke pot and chill to.
If thats all music is for you im sorry.
Radiohead are a good band. I don't understand why you hate them so much. What is it they did to piss you off so much. They arent arogant, they didnt claim to be the saviors of rock and roll, they are a group of friends making music that they like.
I enjoy all of their music, (not so much pablo honey), and i didnt really get into them until i saw a live show of theirs. Download Idioteque Live On SNL, thats what got me going. |
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HotKoreanGirl
Chatterbox
130 Posts |
Posted - 05/12/2005 : 2:28:52 PM
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Radiohead are a good band. I don't understand why you hate them so much. What is it they did to piss you off so much. They arent arogant, they didnt claim to be the saviors of rock and roll, they are a group of friends making music that they like.
I enjoy all of their music, (not so much pablo honey), and i didnt really get into them until i saw a live show of theirs. Download Idioteque Live On SNL, thats what got me going.
Ok, let me just clarify--I don't hate radiohead. I just think they suck, and I don't know why exactly. It's like a 4th dimension or something--that's why I need help with understanding--maybe it's a force beyond what us humans are capable of perceiving...need to be god to understand.
I Need God to help me understand why I think Radiohead sucks.
Really--as it was said "there's nothing that grabs my attention" Similarly, there is nothing in it that pulls at my heartstrings. I know it's supposed to. Am I dead in the ass? I think not.
Honestly, everytime I hear it I feel I am going through reverse puberty, or I feel like I should be hanging out with introspective juvenilles...who can probably spell words better than I can. |
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therippa
Fluffy-Esque
Kazakhstan
1099 Posts |
Posted - 05/12/2005 : 2:36:18 PM
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re: hotkoreangirl
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HotKoreanGirl
Chatterbox
130 Posts |
Posted - 05/12/2005 : 2:40:19 PM
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haha, awesome, she's cute...I'd be interested.
Honestly, I don't mean to try and draw attention to myself anymore than I wonder if anyone shares my feelings of suckiness for radiohead.
"you've gotta get Meeeaaaannn!"
--patches O. Houlihan.
at what point was radiohead your favorite band? When the pubes were starting to grow, or once they were all there? |
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Jay
Alien Abductee
Vatican City
2279 Posts |
Posted - 05/12/2005 : 4:05:30 PM
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| All i have to say is, this hot korean chick is taking all of your abuse and spitting it back in your face. Nice job...but uh, I don't listen to Radiohead cause what I've heard I just plain old didn't like. I don't think that can be explained. It's like, "You don't like yellow mustard? Why not?" |
"Hey man...you smell..."
"Oh yeah?"
"yeah...like dinner..." |
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
4845 Posts |
Posted - 05/12/2005 : 4:07:25 PM
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Originally posted by therippa
We all love people. We love people because of the way they make us feel--it sticks in our heads, we dwell on it, it's inextricably linked to memories and associated with almost everything we experience. Ok i'm starting to sound cheesy, but it's true.
Now onto the point, which if anyone cares, please dispute:
HotKoreanGirl sucks.
Yes, she sucks a big fat one.
I wish she put a disclaimer in her sig saying something like:
"I will now use my limited thinking ability to express something trite in a pretentious way"
Yes she has a catchy username, yes she asks if anyone here is horny and flirts a lot...Fine. But she still sucks. Why? Someone tell me?
No, she is not a jetta driving simpleton, yet her complexity escapes me and I am left wondering why she even posts here in the first place.
I agree that some of the shitty music she does like is good to smoke pot and chill to.
And congratulations Rippa, you've won my Hero Of the Day Award! |
Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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HotKoreanGirl
Chatterbox
130 Posts |
Posted - 05/12/2005 : 4:08:59 PM
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| oh now there's no need for slander....;) |
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
4845 Posts |
Posted - 05/12/2005 : 4:30:27 PM
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| But this thread does need a Flamin' Moe! |
Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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HotKoreanGirl
Chatterbox
130 Posts |
Posted - 05/12/2005 : 4:36:37 PM
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Flaming HOE-Moe? Flaming homer?
Ah, puberty is such a wonderous time. |
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Kevin
Chatterbox
USA
196 Posts |
Posted - 05/12/2005 : 6:41:15 PM
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| That's ridiculous to say a band sucks for no reason. What albums have you listened to? Try out Ok Computer or Kid A, and I'd like to see what you think than. I think I would compare them to Pink Floyd, actually. Radiohead are incredible ;) |
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Hopeful Rolling Waves
Alien Abductee
South Sandwich Islands
2154 Posts |
Posted - 05/12/2005 : 7:02:31 PM
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I listen to a lot of shit. Tim Reynolds, Dave Matthews, Nirvana, Stone Temple Pilots, Led Zeppelin, Jimi Hendrix, The Police, The Clash, Duran Duran, Peter Gabriel, Genesis, Yes, King Crimson, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Al Di Meola, Paco de Lucia, Joao & Astrud Gilberto, Antonio Carlos Jobim, John Coltrane, Miles Davis, Charlie Mingus, Thelonious Monk, The Bad Plus, Bach, Rimsky-Korsikov, Rachmaninov, Vivialdi, Mozart...I think I can safely say I have a very broad taste in music. And I don't just casually listen to all of that stuff, I know a lot of it note for fucking note because that's usually what keeps me going throughout the day...it's always there...I love it.
Having said that, I now say, Radiohead is my favorite band ever. I have been listening to them since '96, and have played through all of their albums AND B-sides more times than I can count.
Their curious approach to instrumentation, their delicately devastating songwriting, their ability to put you on your ass and the next track put you back on your feet, their view of the world and society...I love those guys. I'd tell them all to their faces. They are humble and introspective, and genuinely care about connecting with those who have the guts to bite into their music. Their music has improved with every album, as they have successfully attacked several genres of music and made them their own. I am not some EMO prick moping around "waiting for something to happen." I am a very upbeat person and find Radiohead's music to be quite uplifting and thought-provoking. I think people that don't like them as a band are swayed in part by the fact that they don't like the people that like them. Say what you will, but I have found this to be true in my life experience, so you can't deny me. Sure there are handfuls of posers who like them cause their friends do or the critics do, but I can honestly say, when I am at a loss for something to listen to, I can assure you it's either Radiohead or TR that's going into my player, nuff said.
HKG, go get laid already for fuck's sake. It's nice of you try to stir up the shit soup, but you can be a little more effective in your approach. And I'd love to hear your opinion on Tim's new Parallel Universe album, especially since you haven't mentioned him once on his own fucking board. Check out Angel With a Broken Wing, Sometimes Love Sighs, Alpha Wave, or Plastic Man...or just go sit on a toilet plunger, take your pick. |
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Robin
Yak Addict
USA
598 Posts |
Posted - 05/12/2005 : 8:12:02 PM
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| SSSSSSSSS....Hopeful you are at this moment my fave person. Peace, Robin |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
3776 Posts |
Posted - 05/12/2005 : 8:52:38 PM
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the clash. loundon's calling, and they're calling you gay.
and don't even get me started on nirvana.
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death to false metal. |
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La Mer De Noms
Try A Little Harder
66 Posts |
Posted - 05/12/2005 : 11:18:05 PM
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| i hate you, and your opinion, b/c it doesnt agree with mine! |
Well that is that and this is this.
Will you tell me what you saw and I'll tell you what you missed,when the ocean met the sky.
You missed when time and life shook hands and said goodbye.
When the earth folded on itself.
And said "Good luck, for your sake I hope heaven and hell are really there, but I wouldn't hold my breath." |
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
4845 Posts |
Posted - 05/13/2005 : 12:35:09 AM
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Originally posted by Hopeful Rolling Waves
I listen to a lot of shit. Tim Reynolds, Dave Matthews, Nirvana, Stone Temple Pilots, Led Zeppelin, Jimi Hendrix, The Police, The Clash, Duran Duran, Peter Gabriel, Genesis, Yes, King Crimson, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Al Di Meola, Paco de Lucia, Joao & Astrud Gilberto, Antonio Carlos Jobim, John Coltrane, Miles Davis, Charlie Mingus, Thelonious Monk, The Bad Plus, Bach, Rimsky-Korsikov, Rachmaninov, Vivialdi, Mozart...I think I can safely say I have a very broad taste in music. And I don't just casually listen to all of that stuff, I know a lot of it note for fucking note because that's usually what keeps me going throughout the day...it's always there...I love it.
Having said that, I now say, Radiohead is my favorite band ever. I have been listening to them since '96, and have played through all of their albums AND B-sides more times than I can count.
Their curious approach to instrumentation, their delicately devastating songwriting, their ability to put you on your ass and the next track put you back on your feet, their view of the world and society...I love those guys. I'd tell them all to their faces. They are humble and introspective, and genuinely care about connecting with those who have the guts to bite into their music. Their music has improved with every album, as they have successfully attacked several genres of music and made them their own. I am not some EMO prick moping around "waiting for something to happen." I am a very upbeat person and find Radiohead's music to be quite uplifting and thought-provoking. I think people that don't like them as a band are swayed in part by the fact that they don't like the people that like them. Say what you will, but I have found this to be true in my life experience, so you can't deny me. Sure there are handfuls of posers who like them cause their friends do or the critics do, but I can honestly say, when I am at a loss for something to listen to, I can assure you it's either Radiohead or TR that's going into my player, nuff said.
HKG, go get laid already for fuck's sake. It's nice of you try to stir up the shit soup, but you can be a little more effective in your approach. And I'd love to hear your opinion on Tim's new Parallel Universe album, especially since you haven't mentioned him once on his own fucking board. Check out Angel With a Broken Wing, Sometimes Love Sighs, Alpha Wave, or Plastic Man...or just go sit on a toilet plunger, take your pick.
I'm sorry the Rippa but a new challenger has entered the arena! |
Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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Hopeful Rolling Waves
Alien Abductee
South Sandwich Islands
2154 Posts |
Posted - 05/13/2005 : 07:47:01 AM
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Well Dan, if you are only ripping on 2 bands out my list, I didn't do too badly. Just getting to my point that their are those of us out their that truly love music in all its expanses, and it just so happens that I put the 'Head at the top of my list.
And c'mon man, Nirvana Unplugged is a fucking great set, you can eat rusty nails. |
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HotKoreanGirl
Chatterbox
130 Posts |
Posted - 05/13/2005 : 09:58:26 AM
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ok, now I didn't mean any of this personally guys--unlike the way I feel about dave Matthews, Radiohead is more of an issue with them than the fans--so watch the plunger-in-the-snatch comments (although, it does sound tempting).
Just because anyone claims to have a rounded, varied, vast, whatever you want to call it taste in music, does not make an argument about appreciating one band strong. I think any of us know that it is extremely commonplace to have a varied taste in music, if you didn't, I'd consider you to be pretty dense.
The name dropping of classical composers could use some work...are those the only major classical composers you like Hopeful?
So point being, Radiohead sucks. Why? Because none of the music grabs me. Therefore, it must be smoke in mirrors. I admit, that song with the lyrics "Faaaaddddde....ouuuuuuutttttt, AGGGGGGAAAAIINNNN" is catchy and initially good---but honestly I just listened to OK computer again last night and I was like, Damn it I need a f'ing Blunt in my hand and need to be REALLY REALLY out of it to keep listening to this. There's something just so incredibly trite about the way they put sounds together.
Someone said once:
The only think higher on the gay-o-meter than Radiohead is well, Radiohead. |
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HotKoreanGirl
Chatterbox
130 Posts |
Posted - 05/13/2005 : 10:50:40 AM
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furthermore Hopeful, your zeal for Radiohead rivals even the most scathing fundamentalist christian evangalism...as if those who don't appreciate Radiohead are going to hell or something. If you thought some of the music I like sucks, so be it...why do you have to take it so damn personal? Or are you Radiohead's hired butt-sex slave/chief masturbation assistant? You sound like you are being paid to promote them, or are you just under their cultish spell?
Hopefull Rolling Waves = Chief Whack-It
(clarification: I am not anti-Christian, just using an extreme example)
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
3776 Posts |
Posted - 05/13/2005 : 11:12:39 AM
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hotkoreangirl is a dude. hotkoreangirl is a dude. hotkoreangirl is a dude.
i really wouldn't call what hrw did "name-dropping" which is something done generally when referring to obscure bands. there's not one really obscure band on the list. and if you'd like to challenge the depths of someone's knowledge and familiarity of classical composers and their works, ok. i challenge your knowledge and familiarity of classical composers and their works. if it's a pissing contest you want, so be it.
so far, you're still not keeping up your end of the argument. hrw told us what makes them not suck. instrumentation and songwriting, namely. that other stuff about world views doesn't really have a place in musical discussion. wagner didn't like the jews, but that doesn't affect his music. so far, all you have is essentially is "it doesn't really grab me, i don't understand it, so it must suck." don't confuse "it sucks" with "i don't like it." there's a big difference. i don't like them either. but taste is entirely subjective. skill in songcraft is mostly objective.
yeah, hrw i also forgot to say: rimsky-korsikov is the poor man's stravinsky. actually, some of rimsky-korsikov's orchestration is downright genius. |
death to false metal. |
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HotKoreanGirl
Chatterbox
130 Posts |
Posted - 05/13/2005 : 11:42:08 AM
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Ok, well, I admit, I am getting into homo-zone now with this (this is all in jest-mind you people, no hurt feelings or anything).
Ok, so in addition to being a DJ, I am also a violinist who has played for nearly 22 years. I started out with the Suzuki method--this philosophy is where you hear music rather than read it. You listen over and over until you figure out how to play it. Eventually when I was about 12, I started reading, which enabled me to play in string quartets and orchestras. Music was the main event of my life for as long as I can remember, until I went to college, when I decided to study architecture.
Anyway--a sampling of a few of my favorite things (that I have played) that are classical:
Quartets & trios:
Shostacovich piano trio
Ravel string quartet--2nd movement in particular
Mozart Dissonant quartet--first movement particuarly.
Violin Solo:
Bach Sonatas and Partitas--Partita No.2 in D minor--the "Chacconnne" is the pimpinist work in all mankind in my opinion.
Chassone: Poem
Lalo--symphony Espagnole
Concertos:
Beethoven Violin concerto
Mendelsohnn Violin concerto
Brahms double concerto for violin and cello (just the first movement)
Bruch violin concerto--all movements
Orchestral work:
Prokovief - Romeo and Juliette
Hindemith - Symphonic Metamorphosis
Brahms - Symphoney no.4
Bach - Mass in B-minor
Scherazade--Rimsky-K (I played the solo, I was concertmaster)
These are a few that I like, I know there are a lot more, but they are not coming to me right now. So, as you see, by virtue of my extensive knowledge and experience I rightfully claim, that radiohead sucks...No, actually who the hell cares...I am not a great enlightened music critic just because I played this and that and I like this and that...I am no more qualified to judge music anymore than anyone else.
Yes, so anyway, it's all a matter of taste--what moves you, what doesn't. Stuff I don't like and doesn't move me, I am a little more critical of, and often declare it sucks. Radiohead does not move me, therefore, it sucks.
I am not a dude--as soon as I figure out how to post pics I will.
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HotKoreanGirl
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Posted - 05/13/2005 : 11:54:53 AM
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acutally, I think it's brahms 2--it's been awhile...anyway, classical stuff, in addition to Bob Dylan where the first things I was brought up listening to, and eventually playing.
but I am by no means as classical snob--in fact I tihnk a lot of classical music sucks hairy balls...so don't get me wrong, I love rock and experimental/electonical/folk/jazz--all that hot shiza.
And I love cock. |
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Kenneth
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Posted - 05/13/2005 : 12:09:09 PM
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I agree. If you start a thread on why a band sucks then it would seem reasonable to have a few reasons why and not just say because. Your complaint of why you don't like Radiohead is weak. And if you are starting a thread on something it seems like you should come with more than that. But I really don't have an opinion on Radiohead. I'm not familiar enough with their music to give an opinion.
But I listen to a lot of different kinds of music. And I also dig Nirvana some. Now don't get me wrong, It's not like I go home everyday and get out a Nirvana cd and wear Nirvana t-shirts. But they are good to listen to every now and then, especially the unplugged cd. Another band that I think was really good back around same time is Alice In Chains. I love going back and listening to some of their cds, especially Facelift. Layne Staley wrote some awesome lyrics. |
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HotKoreanGirl
Chatterbox
130 Posts |
Posted - 05/13/2005 : 12:25:35 PM
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yeah man, alice in chains is hot...
Nirvana is good for a reason--they play with a ton of passion.
Nirvana said once "We are probably the worst band technically speaking, but we play with a ton of passion." That's respectable.
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
3776 Posts |
Posted - 05/14/2005 : 12:23:54 AM
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no it isn't. passion without the technical ability to display that passion clearly is flesh without bone. i could paint with a lot of passion, but my paints would still suck, since i can't fucking paint.
no opus numbers for any of those works? how strange. isn't it customary to provide opus numbers, or the case of bach and and mozart, bwv and k numbers?
you're still a dude. |
death to false metal. |
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Hopeful Rolling Waves
Alien Abductee
South Sandwich Islands
2154 Posts |
Posted - 05/14/2005 : 4:22:12 PM
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I also work 80-90 hours a week, so I can't spend a shitload of time trying to defend a great band to an idiot like yourself, it's like talking to a HotKoreanWall.
And yes, those are the ONLY bands I have ever listened to, and the only composers I like, cause I am so myopic and dumb because Radiohead is my favorite band. I was simply "name-dropping" them becuase I read about them in Spin Magazine and bought all of their singles to download to my I-Pod.
And why are you always talking about pot? You sound like a really confused 15 yr-old with these arguments? Do you cut yourself, too? I got an idea, why don't you post us up a pick with that toilet plunger in your ass while you hit a hookah with all your vodka/tonic swilling friends?
And what about Tim? Do you know who he is? Any idea at all? Get back to us with that, HotKoreanSausage. |
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Posted - 05/14/2005 : 5:59:33 PM
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Originally posted by HotKoreanGirl
haha, awesome, she's cute...I'd be interested.
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so watch the plunger-in-the-snatch comments (although, it does sound tempting).
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Or are you Radiohead's hired butt-sex slave/chief masturbation assistant?
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And I love cock.
I don't understand. Do you want to be a slut? Or maybe you are constantly trying to validate yourself. You keep saying these things like we're a bunch of stupid frat boys (redundant, I know) who will sit up and take notice whenever a girl (questionable) says something dirty. However, instead of us being attracted to you via the internet (which is what you want), we feel pity for you for trying to get attention any way possible. As far as I can tell, the vast majority of the people on this board are intellegent, but kudos for bringing down the average IQ of the board. And congratulations for hindering the feminist movement who try to have men take women seriously.
And as for this whole Radiohead thing, all you've been able to do is say that you don't understand why other people have opinions that differ from yours. Well guess what....everyone has a different opinion. That's why crappy "music" like Britney Spears is popular, why "shows" like American Idol are successful, and why Bush is "president". That's all they are...opinions. And everyone is entitled to theirs, regardless of how stupid they are. |
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Or are you Radiohead's hired butt-sex slave/chief masturbation assistant?
I'd take that job in a heart beat.
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
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Posted - 05/15/2005 : 01:26:18 AM
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POP PSYCOLOGY'D
yeah, better call the feminists and tell them that there's a girl (or guy posing as a girl) who is single handedly hindering their cause on a message board. after all, feminism isn't about a woman's right to choose for herself what to do/say. also, thanks for the backhanded insult by implying that because of the way she's conducting herself, i, or anyone else here, am going to somehow allow this to translate into an overall view of women that makes me take them less seriously. i'm sure we all appreciate that.
i also don't know what you mean by we feeling pity. i know i don't feel any pity for her. why should i?
now that that's all out of the way, let's take a deep breath and wait for hkg to respond before we heap on more abuse. |
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HotKoreanGirl
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Posted - 05/16/2005 : 10:30:09 AM
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arg, yes, long weekend--filled with toilet plunging (not me, but the actual toilet). well, I am impressed I really didnt' think I would stir up that much of a shit-storm of retalliation with this posting.
Amdist all the talk of pot and cock (me) and me wanting attention (you), it seems that a predominant message is coming through:
People have different opinions.
Most people here really like radiohead.
People here are not content to hear me say a band the like radiohead sucks, without more intelligent backing up.
One question I have for all is: Why do you feel the need to get defensive when I say radiohead sucks? As I said before, if you said some of the music I like sucks, that's cool--even if you said "Squarepusher needs a cock up his nose" or "Aphex twin is nothing but heavy lumber lodged deep in my tiny asshole." Or if you don't prefer using the king's english to describe your distaste, why not say "BLock Party is ungood, they retarded" Of course, I might retaliate with some things, but probably not weather or not you have a "real" argument for it.
Arguments, in this case, are gay. It's just like when someone says they like bush. Does someone need any reasons? Otherwise, it's just like, your opinion man. You are not going to convince a person that really likes bush that bush sucks through arguments. You just have to slug it out...full on genital wars--Penis vs. vagina. Arguments are nice intellectual fodder, which can be good masturbation material, but beyond that, you need to get down to what the root of the issue is:
HTG: Radiohead sucks
YOU: No you suck
HTG: no you suck
Real arguments, have no place in things like these. They are merely opinion wars, which call for different set of argumentative tactics. We are feeling our way through this post, but we seem to be getting somewhere.
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dan p.
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Posted - 05/16/2005 : 12:20:13 PM
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right. so why even bring it up to begin with?
no one's trying to convince you that radiohead is good. they're telling you why they like them, and asking you why you don't. it's what we like to call "having a conversation about music." of course, when you fail to hold up your end of things, it goes wrong. and by "not hold up your end of things" i don't mean "present weak arguments." i mean it's almost all nonsense. the only thing consistant about the things you've said are the sophmoric references to drugs and sex. thanks. you're a real grown-up. |
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HotKoreanGirl
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Posted - 05/16/2005 : 12:45:07 PM
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"why bring it up to begin with?"
--to see if anyone else feels the way I do, and if so, why they think they suck. Instead I was bombarded with all these comments about me wanting attention and undermining the feminist movement (thank you), and a lot of praise to radiohead and reprimand for me not being able to back up why I think they suck.
I'll rephrase what I wrote above:
The purpose of starting this thread, was to see if anyone else out there thinks radiohead sucks, and if not, to dispute it. I asked for people to tell me why it sucks. I only once asked people to dispute: "Radiohead sucks." Mostly it was to help me understand why they suck.
I have a few reasons at least, but I needed some help with more:
1. His voice is uber whiny and annoying
2. melodically, I feel the songs quickly reach their full melodic realization early and don't offer new ones as the songs progress.) Occasionally new ones pop up, but I don't feel like there are any mysterious interesting changes as they develope. Once again, it's like the sitting-on-you-ass principle. It finds what it wants to be and stays there, rather than rediscover itself and become something new.
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HotKoreanGirl
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Posted - 05/16/2005 : 12:51:56 PM
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of course, radiohead changes it up song to song--they are decent at that, but I'm talking about within the song itself--things tend to stay mostly the same. This is where I feel the pot smoking comes in...if you are high, things start to blend together better, your sense of time and beginnings/ends dissappear. You lose track of when something finished and another starts, and then maybe the stuff becomes a little more interesting.
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
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Posted - 05/16/2005 : 6:17:23 PM
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This isn't meant to be a personal attack, Korean Girl, I'm just curious to know...
You kind of just showed up on this board on the heels of the big Dave Matthews thread, so I'm thinking that you found this board through that crap. Do you actually listen to and enjoy Tim Reynolds? |
Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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HotKoreanGirl
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Posted - 05/17/2005 : 09:37:41 AM
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| Yes I like Tim Reynolds, I do enjoy listening to him |
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Hopeful Rolling Waves
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HotKoreanGirl
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Posted - 05/18/2005 : 1:35:52 PM
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I think in order to describe my appreciation for Tim and his music, I must personify a famous musician, named Wesley Willis.
Tim Reynolds is a rock star
He is the greatest
He can play his ass off
Right on, brother
He is my greatest player
He is my kind of guy
He can really rock
He can rock this place apart
That man can play great
That is the tone of his guitar
He can really get down
He can really get in the groove
I hope this sums up my appreciation of Tim. |
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
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Posted - 05/18/2005 : 2:02:59 PM
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| How are you personifing WW? |
Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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HotKoreanGirl
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Posted - 05/18/2005 : 6:10:02 PM
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| I mean to say, I am using words he would use to describe someone he likes...I feel I need to stand in as a virtual Wesley in order to most accurately describe the way I feel. |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
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Posted - 05/18/2005 : 7:23:04 PM
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| if those are words he would use, i'd pick someone else to emulate. |
death to false metal. |
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HotKoreanGirl
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Posted - 05/19/2005 : 09:24:20 AM
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| who would you choose to emulate? |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
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Posted - 05/19/2005 : 12:36:27 PM
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| billy werner of saetia and hot cross. easily. |
death to false metal. |
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guitarisPIMP
Yak Addict
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Posted - 05/19/2005 : 1:57:58 PM
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| I just spent the past half hour in Accounting class reading this thread. Hilarious, but I still want that 30 minutes of my life back. |
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
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Posted - 05/19/2005 : 5:02:05 PM
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You are never gonna get it gPimp. Sorry.
Wesley Willis was overrated and obnoxious. |
Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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Hopeful Rolling Waves
Alien Abductee
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Posted - 05/20/2005 : 07:28:50 AM
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| Well HKG, you have now solidified to all of us that, yes, you are as dumb as we all had hoped. That being said, are you up for a TR Task Force bukake party? |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
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Posted - 05/20/2005 : 08:56:56 AM
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| bukkake has 3 k's in it. get it right or pay the price. |
death to false metal. |
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Ultra Kimchi
Is Anybody Here?
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Posted - 05/20/2005 : 1:14:18 PM
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Dear Hopeful rolling waves,
It is only a matter of time before I crush your penis with my excessively tight vagina--henti style.
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HotKoreanGirl
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Posted - 05/20/2005 : 1:17:21 PM
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| wow you have a vagina? |
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
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4845 Posts |
Posted - 05/20/2005 : 1:46:16 PM
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Two points to Dan for the "Salute Your Shorts" reference!
I thought we established that Korean Girl was a guy. |
Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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HotKoreanGirl
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Posted - 05/20/2005 : 2:01:34 PM
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ok lets get something straight I am the only one here with a vagina as far as I can tell.
I still don't understand why you think I'm a dude.
Several things why I am not a dude:
I have breasts
I have a vagina
I have a curvy butt
You can't argue with these facts |
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
4845 Posts |
Posted - 05/20/2005 : 3:52:14 PM
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| Don't forget Teri, Pam, Robin, etc, etc. |
Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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Kenneth
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Posted - 05/20/2005 : 4:53:02 PM
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| Rather or not HotKoreanGirl is a guy or a girl I think it's cool how she/he has taken heaps of abuse and keeps coming back for more. I like that. Regardless of your sex, you've got balls. |
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tericee
Alien Abductee
USA
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Posted - 05/20/2005 : 5:38:48 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Arthen
Don't forget Teri, Pam, Robin, etc, etc.
Yes, as far as I know, Pam, Robin, Evergreen, and I all have vaginas, breasts, and curvy butts. To be fair, however, at the time of HKG's comment, Robin was the only other girl who had posted. |
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
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Posted - 05/20/2005 : 6:36:10 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Kenneth
Rather or not HotKoreanGirl is a guy or a girl I think it's cool how she/he has taken heaps of abuse and keeps coming back for more. I like that. Regardless of your sex, you've got balls.
Or she's a masochist. |
Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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Hopeful Rolling Waves
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therippa
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Posted - 05/20/2005 : 8:42:52 PM
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Originally posted by Hopeful Rolling Waves
Pink Floyd eats assrot...except "Money."
Blasphemy. |
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
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Posted - 05/20/2005 : 8:47:14 PM
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"Money" is one of their weakest songs in my opinion. It's definitely the low point of "Dark Side" for me.
I love Pink Floyd. |
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Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
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Posted - 05/20/2005 : 11:16:26 PM
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i don't. they suck. why? i'm not giving you any reasons. don't like it? dig a hole and die in it. hahaha. in all seriousness, though, i don't like pink floyd that much. a little maybe.
also, hkg. any man could say the things you said, and still be a man. |
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Hopeful Rolling Waves
Alien Abductee
South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 05/22/2005 : 02:39:21 AM
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C'mon Arthen, he explicitly says "...keep your hands off of my sack." Does it get much better than that?
On a more serious note, mail me your address again, and I'll send you that Genesis DVD I gave to TR. I think your find the correlation between his costumes and Gabriel's astounding. And it just plain fucking rocks. Twilight Alehouse.
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HotKoreanGirl
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Posted - 05/23/2005 : 3:05:28 PM
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"Any man could say the things you said and still be a man" --Dan P.
You are indeed a wise man, Dan P. I am dumbstruck by your reasoning.
However, the fact remains, I do not have a penis, and it is comforting to know that I am not the only penisless poster on this thread...fellow females, I apologize if I am insulting you with the intense crudeness of my comments...
But we have a serious issue here--Radiohead sucks like buttsex on a first date, and I still don't feel like anyone has given me any real reasons for why they agree with me.
Why does radiohead suck?
You know they do, so tell me why, please.
And since people keep mentioning Pink Floyd...I will agree with those who like them, because they are actually good.
Radiohead stinks like soiled briefs.
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Kenneth
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Posted - 05/23/2005 : 4:56:18 PM
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You don’t like radiohead, why? I don’t know.
I don’t like radiohead, why? I don’t know.
I believe the real question here is does buttsex suck more or less on the second date? Because you see, radiohead may suck like buttsex on the second date and that could be worse than the first date but I don’t know... what do you think?
I also like chewing gum... do you? If you do then just let me know. Cause I have a friend in the gum business. I got a gum guy. I make one phone call. I get boxes of gum delivered right to your door.
The drugs work....
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dan p.
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Posted - 05/23/2005 : 5:17:25 PM
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"You are indeed a wise man, Dan P. I am dumbstruck by your reasoning." - hkg. if only that were true.
if you don't know why a band sucks, then don't say they suck. because, you know, maybe they don't. you don't know, because you can't tell us why they do.
pink floyd was masturbation rock, fit only for people too stoned to pay attention. |
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Hopeful Rolling Waves
Alien Abductee
South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 05/24/2005 : 07:41:55 AM
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How is Pink Floyd any "better" than Radiohead?
Their instrumentation is mundane, their guitar solos are absolutely atrocious, and you wanna talk about "forward motion" in music? No band drifts more steadily into nowhere than Pink Fluid. When's the last time P.F. used a ondes martenot in one of their songs? I guess the band is awesome if you're really drunk and trying to go sleep...always a challange.
I don't think anyone is going to agree too whole-heartedly with you, HKG. Why agrue with someone who's got the common sense of a lemming? |
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HotKoreanGirl
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Posted - 05/24/2005 : 11:14:51 AM
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"I guess the band is awesome if you're really drunk and trying to go sleep...always a challange."
haha, that's funny hopeful--Althouggh I don't agree, it's still funny--but why is it hard for you to go to sleep drunk? I'd think that would be easy.
The thing I like about Pink Floyd is that they create these vast soundscapes with their instruments/synthesizers/vocals--it's like this enormous private universe of sound that you go into and inhabit. The music definitly does have forward motion. Don't expect virtuostic guitar solos--if that's the kind of music you want to listen to, that's cool, but it's definitly not pink Floyd.
For those who compared Radiohead to Pink Floyd you are missing the point. Radiohead does not create vast musical universes for its listeners to inhabit. Nor do they create music with forward motion. Nor do they create music that grabs you by the pooper and forces you to question your place in space and time.
Instead they create a limited, shallow "musical" landscape in which the "music" remains stagnant, and grabs you by the pooper only to thrust in its bland, phlacid, pre-pubescent cock, and make you question why you're listening to it if you're not 14, coming of age, have a blunt in your hand, and/or are growing fresh pubes.
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therippa
Fluffy-Esque
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Posted - 05/24/2005 : 2:47:35 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by dan p.
pink floyd was masturbation rock, fit only for people too stoned to pay attention.
It's been a while, but shup up dan p., you cock  |
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Miss Sorrel
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Posted - 05/24/2005 : 9:47:51 PM
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Well, after months of being away, with the exception of Dirtysloth's big 2-1 birthday, I feel this is a good thread to land on.
For one thing, yeah, HKG, you run circles around yourself... which isn't easy. But, if there's one crowd to do it with, it's certainly this one. I have many a time made myself feel like an ass here... and it normally had to do with Jay.
Secondly, I'd like to say that I love Radiohead. I really liked them ever since Creep... but, what really did it in for me was their concert. Just like many people on this board, I love live music. My father got me tickets to see Radiohead a couple birthdays ago, so how could I refuse! I went to the concert with 5 other fantastic people. I could have seen Barney Live on Ice with the crowd I was with and still would have had a fantastic time. But I didn't know what to expect outta Radiohead, since, like you said, they can be melancholy. I knew the venue well, so I knew that it wouldn't be possible for me to fall asleep... but any other circumstance, I would think that I would at a concert like that. But to my surprise: THEY WERE FULL OF LIFE AND ENERGY!!! Their concert was unlike any album of theirs (which is one of the only bands I can say that I own every one of). They performed.Because there were no seats to keep on the edge of, I was constantly on my toes to try and catch what they would do next. I love them for the same reason HKG loves Nirvana... their passion. That's when I went from like to love. Plus, their lyrics are remarkable... I think at least 
Thirdly, why the f*ck wasn't I brought up in the list of girls on this thread!?!? Arthen and Rippa, I expect more out of you both; or, any of you out there who have met me who can vouch that I am 104% female!
Fourth, Tericee, I would love to get in touch with you! I am moving to DC for grad school, but am looking to live in Arlington. I've already talked briefly to Fluffy... but, he says you are the go to person when it comes to Arlington. I should probably start a whole new thread or just email on this one... but, I am on a roll!
Fifthly... guitarisPIMP, if you find a way to retrieve the 30 minutes you spent… please, let me know…. I’d like it back now…. With the exception of this post, of course.
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
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Posted - 05/25/2005 : 11:49:00 AM
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fifthly?
i assume that extra 4 percent was an error in the operation. hahahaha. i jest, of course.
actually, someone called me a cock yesterday. |
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guitarisPIMP
Yak Addict
Niue
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Posted - 05/25/2005 : 12:21:16 PM
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| no, miss sorrell, this thread is like a pack of cigarettes to me. Every time i go back to it I just lose a little bit more of my life. It's addicting too, I must say. There are few things more entertaining than watching someone make a complete fool out of themself, and always coming back for more. |
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HotKoreanGirl
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Posted - 05/25/2005 : 2:51:38 PM
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In light of a parallel topic to Radiohead, I must give attention to Dan P. and the cock comments--Dan, you seem a decent, hard workin' good ol' boy, but the masturbatory Floyd comment took you out of that class and landed you in the "have-sex-with Mr. Rogers" class.
That's not a bad class to be in, although I don't know anyone else in it. Obviously, someone was bound to call you a cock.
Lets talk alittle about masturbatory music, shall we?
Pink floyd IS in fact good whacking/petting music.
It has a unique ability to unleash a primal instinct in people to touch themselves...an action more appropriate than dancing, moping, or even pondering one's existence--nay, I would say one achieves the highest sense of self-realization through Floyd's music and the perpetual motion of the right (or left) hand.
The Flloyd experience incidentally informs us that life, at its core, is Masturbatory. You can't ask much more from a band than that.
So thank you Dan P., for bringing that reality to light. You are my hero, even if you are having sex with Mr. Rogers.
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Kenneth
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Posted - 05/25/2005 : 4:13:36 PM
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Burn!!!!
I look forward to a response to that. |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
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Posted - 05/25/2005 : 5:48:00 PM
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young lady (or man) your misconceptions begin with "hard workin' good ol' boy." i think that outside of guitar, i've never done anything that would put me in the "hard workin'" class. i cannot remember the last time i worked hard. i think when i was younger i brought in some firewood from out back, but i'm not really sure.
i blame myself for using the word "masturbatory." perhaps "self-indulgent" would be a safer word.
i have no crackling retribution for the post. sorry. |
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HotKoreanGirl
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Posted - 05/25/2005 : 6:11:58 PM
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needless to say Dan, I wasn't expecting any "crackling retribution", only if you were truly offended by me staking claims about your sex life.
Not at all, I appreciate what you said, as it opened my eyes to deeper understanding of Pink Floyd. |
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guitarisPIMP
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Posted - 05/25/2005 : 8:29:04 PM
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I love pink floyd too, but recently came to realize why I don't like their later albums, and I'm really only fond of their Echoes/Atom Heart Mother/DSOTM era. And that is because although they definitely evolved as artists, instrumentally they didn't go very far. They spent alot of time with technology, and built on their sound and grew that way, and it definitely shows with the synthesizers and their Wall tour etc. But I bet if you showed them a VI-II-V-I progression on the end of a 12-bar blues, that'd be totally new material to them. They just didn't seem to advance in their playing ability or their song-writing, and that kind of made those later albums just less inspiring to me. Still enjoyablemusic thoguh.
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Hopeful Rolling Waves
Alien Abductee
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HotKoreanGirl
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Posted - 05/26/2005 : 12:31:59 PM
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many bands and composers have a habit of doing that--the early work is sometimes alot stronger than later works--although I think of Beethoven and how his Late string quartets are considered to be better than his earlier works. Sometimes people mature and with it the work.
As far as bands go, I feel a lot of times there is an artistic spark that people identify with, which is usually something that occurs at a band's inception--or once they star playing frequently and things come together. I would argue that there's a certain spontaneousness to genius that gets crushed or incapable of being real once things become established--or better yet EXPECTED. In some cases people are capable of producing this spark over and over--that is amazing to me--but even great bands tend to loose it after awhile. |
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therippa
Fluffy-Esque
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Posted - 05/26/2005 : 5:32:57 PM
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Originally posted by guitarisPIMP
I love pink floyd too, but recently came to realize why I don't like their later albums, and I'm really only fond of their Echoes/Atom Heart Mother/DSOTM era. And that is because although they definitely evolved as artists, instrumentally they didn't go very far. They spent alot of time with technology, and built on their sound and grew that way, and it definitely shows with the synthesizers and their Wall tour etc. But I bet if you showed them a VI-II-V-I progression on the end of a 12-bar blues, that'd be totally new material to them. They just didn't seem to advance in their playing ability or their song-writing, and that kind of made those later albums just less inspiring to me. Still enjoyablemusic thoguh.
p.s. fuck my keyboard
I agree. I've been listening to Atom Heart Mother and Ummagumma a lot at work to pass the time, and Echoes is just plain fucking incredible. Their later stuff got to the point where it seemed they were taking themselves a little too seriously (with that said, The Wall is still a true work of art).
dan p., just curious, how much pink floyd have you heard?
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guitarisPIMP
Yak Addict
Niue
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Posted - 05/26/2005 : 9:24:05 PM
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| Echoes is amazing, an auditory journey. If you've ever seen the Live at Pompeii video, it does a wonderful job of giving story-like images to all their songs. Good songs too, Echoes, One of These Days, Saucer Full of Secrets, Careful With That Axe Eugene, etc. |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
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Posted - 05/26/2005 : 9:56:49 PM
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| a fuck-ton of it. my brother and father live off of pink floyd. |
death to false metal. |
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HotKoreanGirl
Chatterbox
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Posted - 05/27/2005 : 11:41:50 AM
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I can't help thinking that's partially why you might not like them as much.
I still don't understand the comparisson to Pink Flloyd. They are totally not alike. I was listening to The Arcade Fire this morning coming into work and thought, "Man, I'd love it if some of these radiohead fanatics listened to some of this stuff" It has some similar melody quirks, but the sound has a timeless fierce-folky-rocky quality which transcends time--you could listen to it 100 years from now and not tell what part of the 20th/21st century it came from.
I expect people will listen to radiohead in 100 years and say---oh yeah, that's some of that retarded whiny turn-of-the-century crap sung by Thom Yorke--that newt-faced miniature man wetting the bed as he stinks up his house and others accross the world via stereo systems with his insipid noodlings about unachievable rat races for number 1 in a digitally bland world.
Ok, I listened to Kid A the other night. Some points I see Radiohead is trying to test themselves in newer musical waters--experimenting with obvious IDM influences (Aphex Twin, Boards of Canada) in particular. Kudus for trying, but it doesn't work--and I believe Radiohead saw themselves going in the IDM direction, which is smart actually, because some of the most cutting edge NEW SOUNDING music is being composed in that particular genre. Kid A was the beginning of the end for them--they got too caught up in trying to put themselves into an IDM soundform, got worse in Amnesiac, and totally botched it on Com Lag.
I like what pitchforkmedia had to say about Com Lag:
"A beautifully packaged ribbon tying up 2003's loose ends, Com Lag will most commonly endure as an infrequently accessed file folder on unscrupulous hard drives" |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
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Posted - 05/27/2005 : 3:23:43 PM
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| pitch fork media sucks. pretentious reviews and. . .well everything else, too. |
death to false metal. |
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chrism
Is Anybody Here?
Canada
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Posted - 05/27/2005 : 3:30:48 PM
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| i read this entire thread....is the verdict in? is hotkoreangirl male or female? and yeah, i love PF..... |
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Kenneth
Chatterbox
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Posted - 05/27/2005 : 5:52:46 PM
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I like a lot of Pink Floyds stuff but for me it's one of those things where if your trippin you love it but if you’re sober then it's not as good as it was but it’s still pretty good. I guess I just have to get in that frame of mind to really dig some of their tunes but I also like some of their songs without any mind altering drugs.
But really, what doesn't fuck with you or sound better when you're trippin or rollin your nuts off? If you know how to handle it and don't freak out then it's really fun, in moderation of course; no "one" drug will kill you but too much of anything will. You'll hear things or certain parts in songs that you've never really “heard” before or really noticed because you are listening to it in a completely different frame of mind. I mean yea, you’re blitzed but at the same time you’re fully aware, kind of. And this is beside the point but you can play guitar for hours and hours while rollin and there is nothing more fun than that. You can really get in the zone and it feels like you're actually playing better than you normally do. I guess you're just kind of "Letting Go" and feeling it. So drop some roll and get the 4 track ready. Just make sure you push record before playing for the next 2 hours and then realizing you're a dumbass once you figure out the tapes not running. Huge bummer!
To me the difference between Pink Floyd and lets say a band like Led Zep is I can listen to the entire box set of Led Zeppelin while trippin and it's awesome. But I can listen to it sober and it's still just as great to me. Thats why to me Led Zep is fuckin great and Pink Floyd is pretty good. Sorry about all the drug references but it’s tough to bring up Pink Floyd without talking about well, you know, drugs.
To all the kiddies out there; don't do drugs, stay in school. Just smoke pot if you need a break from reality, a break from yourself, or a break from all the dumbshits you come across on a daily basis. Smoke a bowl and you'll feel better for a little while. You know, some people do and some people don't and thats ok. The only thing wrong with pot is that it's illegal. And sure you could develop emphazyma, cancer, and other illnesses as well in the long run but think about it; what isn't killing us? I mean, all I did last night was go to sleep and even that kills me. I woke up this morning and I was closer to my death because I had slept a few hours of my life away. So you have to put it all into perspective. Basically, I'd rather smoke a joint than eat a greasy hamburger. Pick your poison.
Sorry for rambling... I couldn’t stop. Now, time to leave this stinking shit hole they call work. Have a great weekend all. Peace out! K dog signing out. I'm such a dork.
P.S. And as far as HKG is concerned…. “That’s not a woman man, that’s a man, man!”
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guitarisPIMP
Yak Addict
Niue
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Posted - 05/27/2005 : 6:48:24 PM
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| ahahaha kenneth your post was more drug related than pink floyd related. not that i didn't enjoy it very much, though. |
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enthuTIMsiast
Alien Abductee
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Posted - 05/27/2005 : 11:12:33 PM
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Tim Reynolds Downloads
I am not the albatross of love, I am the human ellipsis. I am dot dot dot. - Leo Kottke
I hate beating people over the head with anything. We can all make up our own minds. What we don’t have is enough music. More music please. - Leo Kottke |
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chrism
Is Anybody Here?
Canada
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Posted - 05/28/2005 : 02:43:15 AM
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| i like radiohead a bit, but man, that was a pretty clever joke. |
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Hopeful Rolling Waves
Alien Abductee
South Sandwich Islands
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PJK
Alien Abductee
USA
4159 Posts |
Posted - 05/28/2005 : 10:45:16 AM
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I love Radiohead, espcially Kid A and Hail to the Theif. I really don't care if others don't like them. Thats what music is all about, nothing reaches out to everyone. That's the reason I stayed away from this thread, just don't care to justify what I like, seems pointless and a waste of TIMe. The only reason I am posting now is to add this:
My son got me a CD for mothers day. Muse. Sounds a lot like Radiohead.
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HotKoreanGirl
Chatterbox
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Posted - 05/31/2005 : 10:34:15 AM
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Nice rambling Kenneth--you sound like you know what the fuck is going on...
"But really, what doesn't fuck with you or sound better when you're trippin or rollin your nuts off?"
Absolutely. Can anyone argue with the above statement? The point is, you shouldn't need drugs to enjoy music. That's why I can't get into Radiohead. Believe it or not, I do not need to smoke the water pipe in order to enjoy Pink flloyd. But Radiohead--I need to be blazin the chronic and blitzed to even start listening.
I think people who haven't experienced radiohead on drugs..say, haven't slammed smack, or sucked a glass dick, or perhaps just puffed the magic dragon haven't really experienced them the way they intended to be experienced. I would argue that without drugs, radiohead is impossible to experience. I'm sure that was their intention all along. I mean seriously "Killer Caaaarrrrrrrs!" Can you honestly listen to that and not wonder what's wrong with you for not skipping ahead a track on the CD, or walking out of the concert if you're there?
God, I'd have to start fisting myself to stay interested.
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HotKoreanGirl
Chatterbox
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Posted - 05/31/2005 : 12:08:25 PM
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| oh, and for the sake of not insulting those who do like radiohead, let me clarify that by "experiencing" the music, I mean letting it take you into a transcendent state that causes you to think of things beyond the music--creating rich visual images in your mind and feeling a euphoric sensation, as well as dwelling on it afterward and longing for it again. This is different than listening to it and just liking it and thinking it's awesome--which is cool if that's what you want to do. I just like my music to take me higher (and I don't mean with weed). |
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Radiohead sucks
