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thomasode
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Posted - 08/17/2004 :  3:06:42 PM  Show Profile  Send thomasode an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Any one heared the new songs? are they good? any links?

Arthen
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Posted - 08/17/2004 :  3:23:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sugar Will is pretty good. I like most of them based on the music. I don't understand most of the lyrics.

Just go to Antsmarching.org. The 2004 server was up last week.

Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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CPPJames
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Posted - 08/17/2004 :  5:43:59 PM  Show Profile  Send CPPJames an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Most of the time I silently agree with you, Arthen...but I must take exception this time . In my opinion, Sugar Will is the worst of the four new songs. I'd rank them Thing (when intelligible), Joyride, Hello Again, Crazy Easy, Sugar Will. But that's just me.

There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those that understand binary, and those that don't.
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Arthen
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Posted - 08/17/2004 :  7:29:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Joyride seems to be the song that is the most like older DMB. I'd say that the quality of the songs is right around the "Crash" level. Nowhere near BTCS unfortunately.

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Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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GuitarGuy305
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Posted - 08/17/2004 :  7:52:09 PM  Show Profile  Send GuitarGuy305 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Hello Again is my favorite. Download the 07/24/04 show from antsmarching.org. Pretty good quality, and a good show overall.

There was also a track that was dropped from Some Devil, Dave Matthews' solo release, that was leaked a few weeks ago, called Cigarette Lit. I really like it. You can download it here:

http://home.comcast.net/~drewwiley/CigaretteLit.mp3

I hope that link still works. I can't test it b/c I'm at work.

Adam
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dan p.
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Posted - 08/18/2004 :  12:43:34 AM  Show Profile  Send dan p. an AOL message  Reply with Quote
it works plenty. dave matthews band will never be as good as they were in btcs. before these crowded streets was dmb's silmaril.

death to false metal.
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Arthen
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Posted - 08/18/2004 :  12:45:06 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dan, you have a way with words and comparing things to Tolkien. That sums it up. It's kind of sad, but it also makes sense, because who could make something as good as BTCS and then follow it with a better album?

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Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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SandyCarl
Try A Little Harder

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Posted - 08/18/2004 :  07:47:48 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
BTCS never did it for me.

I like Sugar Will best of the new songs, and second is probably Cigarette Lit (if that's the name).
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bugman96
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Posted - 08/18/2004 :  10:00:05 AM  Show Profile  Send bugman96 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Arthen

Dan, you have a way with words and comparing things to Tolkien. That sums it up. It's kind of sad, but it also makes sense, because who could make something as good as BTCS and then follow it with a better album?



The Lillywhite Sessions came close to BTCS...even though they weren't an official album.
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Arthen
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Posted - 08/18/2004 :  4:14:16 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lilywhite was good, I'd say it would've been better than Crash. Then they went and fucked up "Captain".

Cigarette Lit didn't really impress me.

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Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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GuitarGuy305
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Posted - 08/18/2004 :  6:21:39 PM  Show Profile  Send GuitarGuy305 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I think Cigarette Lit is a fan given name. Someone did mention an interview in a guitar mag where Dave talked about the song, and refered to it as Cigarette Lit, but I don't know if that is true or not.

Cigarette Lit is like the 4th or 5th time Dave has used the same guitar part in a song. The verse part has been used in other songs like Little Thing, Dreams of Our Fathers, and An' Another Thing...and I think there's one more, but I can't remember what it is.

The outro of Cigarette Lit is exactly the same as an older song by DM called Hold Me Down. Only difference being that this time it's being played on a guitar in raised B tuning.

There is another thing that I found interesting about Cigarette Lit, which as far as I know is a scratched song, that will never again see the light of day, is that the chorus:

The rain falls down, I'm not alone
Covers all of us, in silver light
In silver light, and all, I beg you, stay with me
Let it rain all night

And the part in the new song Joy Ride that goes:

Money is clean, if we scrub it good
Guns and gasoline, we could save the world
Nothing is obsene if we just close our eyes.
Boys and girls welcome to this joy ride.

Those parts sound a lot a like to me. Both syllabically and muscially. I think perhaps Dave used the part from Cigarette Lit for the chorus of Joy Ride. Joy Ride is of course more energetic than Cigarette Lit, but the similarity is there.


Adam
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GuitarGuy305
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Posted - 08/18/2004 :  6:22:43 PM  Show Profile  Send GuitarGuy305 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Arthen
Cigarette Lit didn't really impress me.



I don't think it impressed Dave either....

Adam
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dan p.
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Posted - 08/18/2004 :  6:30:02 PM  Show Profile  Send dan p. an AOL message  Reply with Quote
why release music you're not proud of.

death to false metal.
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GuitarGuy305
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Posted - 08/18/2004 :  8:29:11 PM  Show Profile  Send GuitarGuy305 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Yeah. At least Dave can realize that he's not feeling a song, and his fans probably wouldn't either, such as Cigarette Lit, and keep it off the album.


Adam
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SandyCarl
Try A Little Harder

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Posted - 08/18/2004 :  9:42:48 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GuitarGuy305

Yeah. At least Dave can realize that he's not feeling a song, and his fans probably wouldn't either, such as Cigarette Lit, and keep it off the album.
I agree that the song as it was wasn't that great. Was more like three songs, or the beginning of a song, the middle of Crash, and the end of Blackbird (some other semi-famous band's song). If he'd put together a song as strong as Cigarette Lit, as it started then I think he'd have had another Satellite on his hands.
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thomasode
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Posted - 08/19/2004 :  02:16:02 AM  Show Profile  Send thomasode an AOL message  Reply with Quote
can someone just post links to the new songs? I cant get the one on Ants to work. btw the ending of Ciggarette lit is the same as Hold Me down
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GuitarGuy305
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Posted - 08/19/2004 :  3:53:44 PM  Show Profile  Send GuitarGuy305 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Are the links you're trying in this thread?

http://www.antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?t=105454

They work for me.

I can make MP3s of the songs from the 7/24/04 show. But I'll have to do it later tonight.


Adam
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