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TurnItToLove
Try A Little Harder

USA
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Posted - 07/05/2004 :  4:18:59 PM  Show Profile  Visit TurnItToLove's Homepage  Send TurnItToLove an AOL message  Reply with Quote
how do you know, like for serious know you're in love?

-Kaitlyn-
"If I was a locksmith I'd be pimping that out, I'd be like Tell you what I'll trade you a free key duplication"--mitch hedberg

Zachmozach
Fluffy-Esque

USA
1534 Posts

Posted - 07/05/2004 :  5:53:29 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When emotions and such overide rational thought. That's about all I can offer.

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La Mer De Noms
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Posted - 07/05/2004 :  5:53:58 PM  Show Profile  Send La Mer De Noms an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TurnItToLove

how do you know, like for serious know you're in love?



when you dont wonder about it anymore, b/c you know you are.

Well that is that and this is this.
Will you tell me what you saw and I'll tell you what you missed,when the ocean met the sky.
You missed when time and life shook hands and said goodbye.
When the earth folded on itself.
And said "Good luck, for your sake I hope heaven and hell are really there, but I wouldn't hold my breath."
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Macht
Chatterbox

USA
272 Posts

Posted - 07/05/2004 :  7:30:24 PM  Show Profile  Send Macht an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TurnItToLove

how do you know, like for serious know you're in love?



when it hurts. when you'll do stupid things just to see that persons face. when you can't sleep becuase that person is in your mind. when you get that mushy feeling when you see that person.

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Jay
Alien Abductee

Vatican City
2279 Posts

Posted - 07/05/2004 :  8:42:20 PM  Show Profile  Send Jay an AOL message  Reply with Quote
When you decide that life...well...it isn't worth living if that person isn't in love with you, too...Then it all goes to hell, anyway, and life gets much better...

"Hey man...you smell..."
"Oh yeah?"
"yeah...like dinner..."
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TurnItToLove
Try A Little Harder

USA
97 Posts

Posted - 07/05/2004 :  8:55:43 PM  Show Profile  Visit TurnItToLove's Homepage  Send TurnItToLove an AOL message  Reply with Quote
What sucks is when you're sort of forced to re-evaluate love, like as Jay said "when it all goes to hell anyway". Like you think/know you're in love and the person does a complete 180 and you're left wondering what happened.

-Kaitlyn-
"If I was a locksmith I'd be pimping that out, I'd be like Tell you what I'll trade you a free key duplication"--mitch hedberg
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PJK
Alien Abductee

USA
4159 Posts

Posted - 07/05/2004 :  8:56:57 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
All of the above, well stated everyone!

Might I add a little food for thought. No one is ever guaranteed so many years of happiness, so if you have someone you are happy with and you both love each other don't waste time analyzing your relationship. I have seen people ruin wonderful relationships because they kept second guessing themselves or their significant other. Relax, feel the love!

"It is hard enough to remember my opinions, without also remembering my reasons for them!"Friedrich Nietzsche
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TurnItToLove
Try A Little Harder

USA
97 Posts

Posted - 07/05/2004 :  9:04:00 PM  Show Profile  Visit TurnItToLove's Homepage  Send TurnItToLove an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PJK

All of the above, well stated everyone!

Might I add a little food for thought. No one is ever guaranteed so many years of happiness, so if you have someone you are happy with and you both love each other don't waste time analyzing your relationship. I have seen people ruin wonderful relationships because they kept second guessing themselves or their significant other. Relax, feel the love!



excellent post!

-Kaitlyn-
"If I was a locksmith I'd be pimping that out, I'd be like Tell you what I'll trade you a free key duplication"--mitch hedberg
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Jay
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Vatican City
2279 Posts

Posted - 07/05/2004 :  10:35:09 PM  Show Profile  Send Jay an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Yeah, i couldn't have put it any better, good job...Trouble is, I have an extremely paranoid mind, so that gets in the way of everything...

"Hey man...you smell..."
"Oh yeah?"
"yeah...like dinner..."
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Macht
Chatterbox

USA
272 Posts

Posted - 07/05/2004 :  10:39:19 PM  Show Profile  Send Macht an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jay

Yeah, i couldn't have put it any better, good job...Trouble is, I have an extremely paranoid mind, so that gets in the way of everything...



we all do. It's just part of it. People will doubt their love's feelings. They will doubt it won't work. it's just natural

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TurnItToLove
Try A Little Harder

USA
97 Posts

Posted - 07/05/2004 :  10:43:28 PM  Show Profile  Visit TurnItToLove's Homepage  Send TurnItToLove an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Macht

quote:
Originally posted by Jay

Yeah, i couldn't have put it any better, good job...Trouble is, I have an extremely paranoid mind, so that gets in the way of everything...



we all do. It's just part of it. People will doubt their love's feelings. They will doubt it won't work. it's just natural



i do, but i'm not so sure its doubt as much as it is fear that it may not work or something may happen

-Kaitlyn-
"If I was a locksmith I'd be pimping that out, I'd be like Tell you what I'll trade you a free key duplication"--mitch hedberg
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Jay
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Vatican City
2279 Posts

Posted - 07/05/2004 :  10:44:24 PM  Show Profile  Send Jay an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Yeah true...It's so complicated...all for a feeling that cannot be described...You know, we're all different people, who's to say we don't feel love differently?

One thing I don't like is when people say things like, "Yeah, I love him, like, friendly love..." Naw...there's only LOVE, at least that's how I see it...I love my best friends like I love my family, there's no difference between the two...but some people try to split it up, like there are different degrees...For me, it's either love or not, ya know?

"Hey man...you smell..."
"Oh yeah?"
"yeah...like dinner..."
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Macht
Chatterbox

USA
272 Posts

Posted - 07/05/2004 :  10:44:51 PM  Show Profile  Send Macht an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TurnItToLove

quote:
Originally posted by Macht

quote:
Originally posted by Jay

Yeah, i couldn't have put it any better, good job...Trouble is, I have an extremely paranoid mind, so that gets in the way of everything...



we all do. It's just part of it. People will doubt their love's feelings. They will doubt it won't work. it's just natural



i do, but i'm not so sure its doubt as much as it is fear that it may not work or something may happen



don't worry yourself. You relationship will work out. It's a perfect bond

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TurnItToLove
Try A Little Harder

USA
97 Posts

Posted - 07/05/2004 :  10:50:53 PM  Show Profile  Visit TurnItToLove's Homepage  Send TurnItToLove an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Macht

don't worry yourself. You relationship will work out. It's a perfect bond



sometimes i hope so, sometimes i wonder if things are just better left not messed with and just see what happens

-Kaitlyn-
"If I was a locksmith I'd be pimping that out, I'd be like Tell you what I'll trade you a free key duplication"--mitch hedberg
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Macht
Chatterbox

USA
272 Posts

Posted - 07/05/2004 :  10:56:17 PM  Show Profile  Send Macht an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TurnItToLove

sometimes i hope so, sometimes i wonder if things are just better left not messed with and just see what happens



Sometimes you can't let stuff happen in front of you, you have to tinker with it.

if you know you're in love, you know it is actual love between the two of you, then no matter what will happen, you guys will be together. that means no matter what you do, or no matter what he does.

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TurnItToLove
Try A Little Harder

USA
97 Posts

Posted - 07/05/2004 :  11:03:20 PM  Show Profile  Visit TurnItToLove's Homepage  Send TurnItToLove an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Macht

quote:
Originally posted by TurnItToLove

sometimes i hope so, sometimes i wonder if things are just better left not messed with and just see what happens



Sometimes you can't let stuff happen in front of you, you have to tinker with it.

if you know you're in love, you know it is actual love between the two of you, then no matter what will happen, you guys will be together. that means no matter what you do, or no matter what he does.




thanks Macht

-Kaitlyn-
"If I was a locksmith I'd be pimping that out, I'd be like Tell you what I'll trade you a free key duplication"--mitch hedberg
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Macht
Chatterbox

USA
272 Posts

Posted - 07/05/2004 :  11:04:18 PM  Show Profile  Send Macht an AOL message  Reply with Quote
sure thing

best of luck and good omen to you

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tericee
Alien Abductee

USA
2579 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2004 :  03:28:58 AM  Show Profile  Visit tericee's Homepage  Send tericee an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Macht

if you know you're in love, you know it is actual love between the two of you, then no matter what will happen, you guys will be together. that means no matter what you do, or no matter what he does.


I don't think that you can expect love to keep you together. Relationships take work even if you're head over heels...

teri
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SandyCarl
Try A Little Harder

81 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2004 :  08:07:14 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Love.
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PJK
Alien Abductee

USA
4159 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2004 :  08:29:27 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bummer Man delivers!

"It is hard enough to remember my opinions, without also remembering my reasons for them!"Friedrich Nietzsche
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Saint Jude
Alien Abductee

USA
2144 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2004 :  12:33:47 PM  Show Profile  Send Saint Jude an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Its kinda like that feeling you get when you climb the rope in gym class.

Remember, turn off your tv. Read.
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TurnItToLove
Try A Little Harder

USA
97 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2004 :  10:03:17 PM  Show Profile  Visit TurnItToLove's Homepage  Send TurnItToLove an AOL message  Reply with Quote
you just had to post a yankees fan in my thread didnt you.
yankees suck. (i'm a red sox fan)

anyways, yeah relationships do take work i agree, if you just sit back, things get repetitive and slowly cycle into being boring.


-Kaitlyn-
"If I was a locksmith I'd be pimping that out, I'd be like Tell you what I'll trade you a free key duplication"--mitch hedberg
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Macht
Chatterbox

USA
272 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2004 :  10:21:01 PM  Show Profile  Send Macht an AOL message  Reply with Quote
She's the vice president of Yankess Suck club or something, I can't remember the name.

Nad I'm turning into a Sox fan :P

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TurnItToLove
Try A Little Harder

USA
97 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2004 :  10:28:35 PM  Show Profile  Visit TurnItToLove's Homepage  Send TurnItToLove an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Macht

She's the vice president of Yankess Suck club or something, I can't remember the name.

Nad I'm turning into a Sox fan :P



yeah i'm Vice President of the I Hate the Yankees Club

-Kaitlyn-
"If I was a locksmith I'd be pimping that out, I'd be like Tell you what I'll trade you a free key duplication"--mitch hedberg
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TurnItToLove
Try A Little Harder

USA
97 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2004 :  10:43:15 PM  Show Profile  Visit TurnItToLove's Homepage  Send TurnItToLove an AOL message  Reply with Quote
"I wish I would have a real tragic love affair and get so bummed out that I'd just quit my job and become a bum for a few years, because I was thinking about doing that anyway."—Jack Handey

hahahaha

-Kaitlyn-
"If I was a locksmith I'd be pimping that out, I'd be like Tell you what I'll trade you a free key duplication"--mitch hedberg
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Macht
Chatterbox

USA
272 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2004 :  01:06:58 AM  Show Profile  Send Macht an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TurnItToLove

quote:
Originally posted by Macht

She's the vice president of Yankess Suck club or something, I can't remember the name.

Nad I'm turning into a Sox fan :P



yeah i'm Vice President of the I Hate the Yankees Club



I'm VP of the "Fender Sucks" club

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TurnItToLove
Try A Little Harder

USA
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Posted - 07/07/2004 :  01:09:23 AM  Show Profile  Visit TurnItToLove's Homepage  Send TurnItToLove an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Macht

quote:
Originally posted by TurnItToLove

quote:
Originally posted by Macht

She's the vice president of Yankess Suck club or something, I can't remember the name.

Nad I'm turning into a Sox fan :P



yeah i'm Vice President of the I Hate the Yankees Club



haha i saw that.
good thing my guitars arent fender or you might hate me

I'm VP of the "Fender Sucks" club


-Kaitlyn-
"If I was a locksmith I'd be pimping that out, I'd be like Tell you what I'll trade you a free key duplication"--mitch hedberg
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Miss Sorrel
Yak Addict

593 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2004 :  12:17:54 PM  Show Profile  Send Miss Sorrel an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I normally know that I am in love about 3 months after I break up with the guy.

No, not really, just kidding.... But recently having been in Europe for 5 weeks without my boyfriend gave me a whole new perspective on how I feel for him. It was pretty much what we needed to know that we've got someting fantastic. It also proved to me that the hardest guys to say no to are those with accents.
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dan p.
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Uganda
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Posted - 07/07/2004 :  3:12:01 PM  Show Profile  Send dan p. an AOL message  Reply with Quote
fuck the yankees. i loved watching the mets sweep those clowns. go mets.

love. seems to me love, for those with the capacity for it, knocks holes in the back of your head and all your sense dribbles out. and it's a lot like death. it comes to us all whether we want it or not. and like death, it should be avoided at all costs

death to false metal.
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Miss Sorrel
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Posted - 07/08/2004 :  1:47:00 PM  Show Profile  Send Miss Sorrel an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Saint Jude

Its kinda like that feeling you get when you climb the rope in gym class.




Wait a minute! Is that a Wayne's World referece!?!?
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Saint Jude
Alien Abductee

USA
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Posted - 07/08/2004 :  1:55:45 PM  Show Profile  Send Saint Jude an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Miss Sorrel
quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by Saint Jude

Its kinda like that feeling you get when you climb the rope in gym class.

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Wait a minute! Is that a Wayne's World referece!?!?


Yep, it sure was

Remember, turn off your tv. Read.
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TurnItToLove
Try A Little Harder

USA
97 Posts

Posted - 07/08/2004 :  9:36:52 PM  Show Profile  Visit TurnItToLove's Homepage  Send TurnItToLove an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dan p.

fuck the yankees. i loved watching the mets sweep those clowns. go mets.

love. seems to me love, for those with the capacity for it, knocks holes in the back of your head and all your sense dribbles out. and it's a lot like death. it comes to us all whether we want it or not. and like death, it should be avoided at all costs


i'm starting to agree with that part

-Kaitlyn-
"If I was a locksmith I'd be pimping that out, I'd be like Tell you what I'll trade you a free key duplication"--mitch hedberg
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Silky The Pimp
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Posted - 07/08/2004 :  11:48:06 PM  Show Profile  Send Silky The Pimp an AOL message  Reply with Quote
"Love... it's a motherfucker."

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Miss Sorrel
Yak Addict

593 Posts

Posted - 07/09/2004 :  02:57:38 AM  Show Profile  Send Miss Sorrel an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Silky The Pimp

"Love... it's a motherfucker."



Old School??
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Silky The Pimp
Alien Abductee

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Posted - 07/09/2004 :  5:08:56 PM  Show Profile  Send Silky The Pimp an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Old School??

Indeed. :)

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Fleabass76
Fluffy-Esque

USA
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Posted - 07/10/2004 :  2:37:20 PM  Show Profile  Send Fleabass76 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Gravitation can not be held responsible for people falling in love.
~ Albert Einstein

Love is grand; divorce is a hundred grand.

To love is to suffer. To avoid suffering one must not love. But then one suffers from not loving. Therefore to love is to suffer, not to love is to suffer. To suffer is to suffer. To be happy is to love. To be happy then is to suffer. But suffering makes one unhappy. Therefore, to be unhappy one must love, or love to suffer, or suffer from too much happiness. I hope you're getting this down.
~Woody Allen


I done copy and paste good.


Robots are the enemy? Hmm...
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TurnItToLove
Try A Little Harder

USA
97 Posts

Posted - 07/10/2004 :  4:36:21 PM  Show Profile  Visit TurnItToLove's Homepage  Send TurnItToLove an AOL message  Reply with Quote
and of course...

"ain't love a kick in the head..."--sinatra

-Kaitlyn-
"If I was a locksmith I'd be pimping that out, I'd be like Tell you what I'll trade you a free key duplication"--mitch hedberg
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TurnItToLove
Try A Little Harder

USA
97 Posts

Posted - 07/12/2004 :  8:22:14 PM  Show Profile  Visit TurnItToLove's Homepage  Send TurnItToLove an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Ok so ya know whats NOT cool in a relationship? Yeah that would be lying.

-Kaitlyn-
"If I was a locksmith I'd be pimping that out, I'd be like Tell you what I'll trade you a free key duplication"--mitch hedberg
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Macht
Chatterbox

USA
272 Posts

Posted - 07/12/2004 :  8:50:49 PM  Show Profile  Send Macht an AOL message  Reply with Quote
tell me what happened

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TurnItToLove
Try A Little Harder

USA
97 Posts

Posted - 07/12/2004 :  9:05:01 PM  Show Profile  Visit TurnItToLove's Homepage  Send TurnItToLove an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Macht

tell me what happened



check your PM box on dmbtabs

-Kaitlyn-
"If I was a locksmith I'd be pimping that out, I'd be like Tell you what I'll trade you a free key duplication"--mitch hedberg
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Fluffy
Administrator

USA
10739 Posts

Posted - 07/13/2004 :  5:30:33 PM  Show Profile  Send Fluffy an AOL message  Reply with Quote
TITL asked:
quote:
how do you know, like for serious know you're in love?
If your score is "0" then you are at love. OHHHHH, you meant IN love not AT love, SORRY!!! Maybe these will help:

Main Entry: [1]love
Pronunciation: 'l&v
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English lufu; akin to Old High German luba love, Old English lEof dear, Latin lubEre, libEre to please
Date: before 12th century
1 a (1) : strong affection for another arising out of kinship or personal ties <maternal love for a child> (2) : attraction based on sexual desire : affection and tenderness felt by lovers (3) : affection based on admiration, benevolence, or common interests <love for his old schoolmates> b : an assurance of love <give her my love>
2 : warm attachment, enthusiasm, or devotion <love of the sea>
3 a : the object of attachment, devotion, or admiration <baseball was his first love> b (1) : a beloved person : DARLING — often used as a term of endearment (2) : British : — used as an informal term of address
4 a : unselfish loyal and benevolent concern for the good of another: as (1) : the fatherly concern of God for humankind (2) : brotherly concern for others b : a person's adoration of God
5 : a god or personification of love
6 : an amorous episode : LOVE AFFAIR
7 : the sexual embrace : COPULATION
8 : a score of zero (as in tennis)
9 : capitalized Christian Science : GOD
- at love : holding one's opponent scoreless in tennis
- in love : inspired by affection

Main Entry: [2]love
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): loved; lov·ing
Date: before 12th century
transitive senses
1 : to hold dear : CHERISH
2 a : to feel a lover's passion, devotion, or tenderness for b (1) : CARESS (2) : to fondle amorously (3) : to copulate with
3 : to like or desire actively : take pleasure in <loved to play the violin>
4 : to thrive in <the rose loves sunlight>
intransitive senses
: to feel affection or experience desire

Peace & Keep the Faith
Fluffy
"THE MUSIC BUSINESS IS A CRUEL AND SHALLOW MONEY TRENCH-- A LONG PLASTIC HALLWAY WHERE THIEVES AND PIMPS RUN FREE AND GOOD MEN DIE LIKE DOGS. THERE'S ALSO A NEGATIVE SIDE..." -Hunter S. Thompson
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TurnItToLove
Try A Little Harder

USA
97 Posts

Posted - 07/13/2004 :  5:47:51 PM  Show Profile  Visit TurnItToLove's Homepage  Send TurnItToLove an AOL message  Reply with Quote
i was waiting for you to post in my thread, Fluffy. Although you already know what was going on, its ended (you knew it would) cuz....well i'll tell you why later.

-Kaitlyn-
"If I was a locksmith I'd be pimping that out, I'd be like Tell you what I'll trade you a free key duplication"--mitch hedberg
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Macht
Chatterbox

USA
272 Posts

Posted - 07/13/2004 :  7:35:50 PM  Show Profile  Send Macht an AOL message  Reply with Quote
a dictionary definition of such a strong/vague word doesn't define it all :P

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PJK
Alien Abductee

USA
4159 Posts

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Listening to Janis Joplin this morning and this song came on and made me think of your thread here. Couldn't agree more with her words, a blast from the past for me. You might want to consider what she says for the next time. I bold faced the lines I thought really pertained to you. (probably others here, I can think of one particular person off hand, just reverse it from he to she)

Get it While You Can Lyrics
Artist: Janis Joplin

In this world, if you read the papers, darling,
You know everybody's fighting with each other.
You got no one you can count on, dear,
Not even your own brother.
So if someone comes along,
He gonna give you love and affection,

I'd say get it while you can, yeah,
Honey, get it while you can, yeah,
Honey, grab it while you can,
Don't you turn your back on love, no, no, no.

When you're loving somebody, baby,
You're taking a gamble against some sorrow.
But who knows, baby,
'Cause we may not be here tomorrow.
And if anybody comes along,
He gonna give you love and affection,

I'd say get it while you can, yeah!
Honey, grab it when you're gonna need it!
Yeah hey, hold it while you can,
Don't you turn your sweet back on love,
No no no, no no no no no!

Ah! Once I had me a man,
But I didn't know enough at the time
To count my blessings, no no,
But I wish he could see me crying today,
'Cause his love don't feel to listen.
And if anybody comes along,
He gonna give me love and affection,
Yeah, hey!, Hey! Yeah! Hey!

Get it while you can, yeah!
Honey, get it while you can, yeah!
Honey, get it while you can,
Don't you turn your back on love,
No no no, no no no no.

Get it while you can, yeah!
Honey, grab it while you can, yeah!
I said, hold on to that man, love,
Hold on to that man whole,
Yeah, get it, want it, need it,
Get it, get it, hold it, need it, want it,
Get it, need it, want it, hold it,
Get it, squeeze it, love it, touch it,
Use it, need it, want it, get it,
Need it, want it, hold it,

Yeah hey, get it while you can, baby,
Yeah hey, get it while you can,
Honey, don't you go and turn your sweet back on love,
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
No, no, daddy, you'll be sorry,
No, no, no, no!

Why, thank you! I don't smoke. I just don't sleep, man, that's the trouble. I gotta sleep sometime. There's too much happening, why sleep, man ? I might miss a party.

Ball and Chain! Ball and Chain! Ball and Chain.

Stay short tonight man, shorten it, shorten it, shorten it.

Three, four!

Yeah!!!

"It is hard enough to remember my opinions, without also remembering my reasons for them!"Friedrich Nietzsche
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LoveToday
Chatterbox

USA
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Posted - 07/16/2004 :  2:18:47 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You know your in Love when thats the only word you can feasibly use to define the way your feeling. When there is no other way to describe it... it's Love.

You know you LOVE your child when their diaper explodes up their back and down their legs in the middle of the night and you can wipe the shit off of them and then pick them right up and kiss them afterwards and let them sleep the rest of the night in your bed. Love is stronger than anything else in the universe... even Fecal Cholera apparantly.


I childproof my home... and they still get in!
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tericee
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Posted - 07/16/2004 :  6:36:08 PM  Show Profile  Visit tericee's Homepage  Send tericee an AOL message  Reply with Quote
You moms are great. You know such amazing things!
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dan p.
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Posted - 07/18/2004 :  3:33:00 PM  Show Profile  Send dan p. an AOL message  Reply with Quote
i disagree. there are few things stronger than love. hate is at least equally as strong. if not stronger.

death to false metal.
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LoveToday
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Posted - 07/19/2004 :  07:53:12 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Love is pure though. It hits you instantly sometimes. Hate is learned... bred and taught. I think a lot of times hate is just too much Love of yourself and too little love for others. Love wins.

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TurnItToLove
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Posted - 07/19/2004 :  1:01:37 PM  Show Profile  Visit TurnItToLove's Homepage  Send TurnItToLove an AOL message  Reply with Quote
So I'll hit the pavement
it's gotta be better than waiting
& pushing you far away
cause I'm scared.
So I'll take my chances
& head on my way up there.
Cause turning to you is like falling in love when you're ten.
---dashboard confessional

thats actually what it felt like for awhile. things are a little bit better now though.




-Kaitlyn-
"If I was a locksmith I'd be pimping that out, I'd be like Tell you what I'll trade you a free key duplication"--mitch hedberg
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dan p.
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Posted - 07/19/2004 :  1:20:56 PM  Show Profile  Send dan p. an AOL message  Reply with Quote
dashboard is awful.

name something love creates that hate can't destroy.

death to false metal.
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LoveToday
Chatterbox

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Posted - 07/19/2004 :  1:48:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My Daughter...age 12

Created out of Love
..you can hate her all you want..... she will still and always have my Love.

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dan p.
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Posted - 07/19/2004 :  9:29:11 PM  Show Profile  Send dan p. an AOL message  Reply with Quote
if i hated your daughter enough, i could kill her. obviously, i don't, and chances are i wouldn't kill a 12 year old anyway. but you see my point. created out of love, destroyed out of hate. you may still love her after she dies, but that, to me anyway, is like talking to a deaf person. loving the dea dis pointless. you may cherish their memory, mourn their passing, but dead is dead, love aside.

death to false metal.
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LoveToday
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Posted - 07/20/2004 :  10:18:59 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
OK. First thing is lets change the focus to my 12 year old cat. That last post creeped me out a bit. Secondly, The fact that your hate would or could fuel you to end the life of another creature does not in any way destroy or even downplay the Love that is there already. You are right though, your hate can kill the object of my love. You could torture me, for years, and right up to the point where your hate charges you to finally kill me, my Love would still be there.

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dan p.
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Posted - 07/20/2004 :  11:22:57 AM  Show Profile  Send dan p. an AOL message  Reply with Quote
after you die? your love would still be there. i suppose, depending on your views on the afterlife.

death to false metal.
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LoveToday
Chatterbox

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Posted - 07/20/2004 :  11:47:21 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
For the sake of the debate, I am only talking about everything up to the moment we die. Anyway... all we can really do is teach Love and hope that it sustains.

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dan p.
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Posted - 07/20/2004 :  12:24:56 PM  Show Profile  Send dan p. an AOL message  Reply with Quote
up until the moment you die. then hate has the victory. hollow, meaningless victory.

death to false metal.
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LoveToday
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Posted - 07/20/2004 :  2:05:06 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yes true..
its strange how Love can be all-consuming but hollow... just like hate

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dan p.
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Posted - 07/20/2004 :  4:18:39 PM  Show Profile  Send dan p. an AOL message  Reply with Quote
hate can't be anything but hollow. love has potential to be fufilling.

death to false metal.
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TurnItToLove
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Posted - 07/21/2004 :  7:39:59 PM  Show Profile  Visit TurnItToLove's Homepage  Send TurnItToLove an AOL message  Reply with Quote
i like Dashboard Confessional, i think they're good IMHO

but anyways, i dont think i could really "hate" anybody, even someone who broke my heart, i might hate what they did, but in my heart i would always love that person.


-Kaitlyn-
"If I was a locksmith I'd be pimping that out, I'd be like Tell you what I'll trade you a free key duplication"--mitch hedberg
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Arthen
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Posted - 07/22/2004 :  04:30:26 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's much easier not to hate someone, who has done something horribly wrong to you, if you don't have to see them ever again. That's why I don't hate certain people.

Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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LoveToday
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Posted - 07/22/2004 :  10:23:28 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah, space and time are SUPPOSED to heal all wounds. Even if they are gone, there is still a sore spot though. I think that its better to try to forgive before that person leaves and you have lost the chance to eradicate as much of the hate as you can. Since there would never be a good relationship left, it would be better to have no relationship at all (no loose ends) rather than a bad one that made you pissed from afar whenever you thought about it.

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Arthen
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Posted - 07/22/2004 :  11:37:40 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'd say that in certain situations, it would be best if one never saw certain individuals again, or for a long period of time. I had two friends who were dating, and they lived in the same building, so when it ended they still had to see each other. It was very awkward and uncomfortable for a while.

Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
cbenc41@hotmail.com
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dan p.
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Posted - 07/22/2004 :  12:33:34 PM  Show Profile  Send dan p. an AOL message  Reply with Quote
dashboard is awful, IMHO. actually, can we do away with "IMHO", we know it's your opinion by virtue of the fact you said it, and we won't be offended if you leave it out.

"sometimes its easier to hate than to wait anymore." name the quote.

i find that i can hate someone whether i see then every day or once a year.

death to false metal.
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guitarted
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Posted - 07/22/2004 :  1:25:39 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is the longest I've ever seen a thread stay on topic

Today I thougth I saw my last ex girlfriend on the highway. My heart started racing etc..

It's stupid, she disgusts me for so many reasons.
Yet...

Tim, come to Canada!
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LoveToday
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Posted - 07/22/2004 :  3:42:22 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dan p.

dashboard is awful, IMHO. actually, can we do away with "IMHO", we know it's your opinion by virtue of the fact you said it, and we won't be offended if you leave it out.

"sometimes its easier to hate than to wait anymore." name the quote.

i find that i can hate someone whether i see then every day or once a year.





Billy Joel... Innocent Man.... good song


Hating someone that is not around is BBAAADDD for you. Hate eats away at you. Let it go. I had an aunt that was diagnosed with a brain tumor three years ago. Literally.... on her dying bed... she told me... "Don't ever HATE anyone and don't ever WORRY about anything. Just be a part of life and enjoy everyday, otherwise it will eat you from the inside out."

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TurnItToLove
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Posted - 07/23/2004 :  7:25:36 PM  Show Profile  Visit TurnItToLove's Homepage  Send TurnItToLove an AOL message  Reply with Quote
i just find its easier not to hate people who have broken your heart, it just gets to the point where i'm so stressed out and consumed with anger for that person that i can't think of anything else, so i try to just forget what happened(which is NOT by any stretch of the imagination easy, believe me)
but yeah i do the same thing, i'll think i see that particular person and i start panicking, trying to figure out if i look ok so that he wont think i've been crying all the time over him.

wow i sound sad and pathetic.

-Kaitlyn-
"If I was a locksmith I'd be pimping that out, I'd be like Tell you what I'll trade you a free key duplication"--mitch hedberg
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Macht
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Posted - 07/23/2004 :  7:53:28 PM  Show Profile  Send Macht an AOL message  Reply with Quote
you don't sound anywhere near sad or pathetic

Authorities here are alert
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TurnItToLove
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Posted - 07/25/2004 :  12:14:21 AM  Show Profile  Visit TurnItToLove's Homepage  Send TurnItToLove an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Macht

you don't sound anywhere near sad or pathetic



well now i'm not, for awhile i was but then i smartened up and saw things for what they really were, realized things worked out for the best, etc.

-Kaitlyn-
"If I was a locksmith I'd be pimping that out, I'd be like Tell you what I'll trade you a free key duplication"--mitch hedberg
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PJK
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Posted - 07/25/2004 :  3:37:06 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Posted - 07/23/2004 : 7:53:28 PM
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you don't sound anywhere near sad or pathetic


I agree, you sound like you have a mature attitude when it comes to love. (and being "out of love")

I use this quote a lot, from a former boyfriend of mine, but it has a lot of truth to it. " two wholes make a whole, and two halves make a mess."

Another thing I am sure of, if things don't work out with one person, love does come around again. I don't believe in only one "soulmate" but rather that possibility for love is always out there.

"It is hard enough to remember my opinions, without also remembering my reasons for them!"Friedrich Nietzsche
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TurnItToLove
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Posted - 07/27/2004 :  5:09:36 PM  Show Profile  Visit TurnItToLove's Homepage  Send TurnItToLove an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PJK

quote:
Posted - 07/23/2004 : 7:53:28 PM
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you don't sound anywhere near sad or pathetic


I agree, you sound like you have a mature attitude when it comes to love. (and being "out of love")

I use this quote a lot, from a former boyfriend of mine, but it has a lot of truth to it. " two wholes make a whole, and two halves make a mess."

Another thing I am sure of, if things don't work out with one person, love does come around again. I don't believe in only one "soulmate" but rather that possibility for love is always out there.



thanks alot guys, your contributions to this thread were awesome, keep em coming if you have more.

-Kaitlyn-
"If I was a locksmith I'd be pimping that out, I'd be like Tell you what I'll trade you a free key duplication"--mitch hedberg
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