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guitarisPIMP
Yak Addict
Niue
587 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2005 : 5:37:35 PM
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It's a good thing one can make an alternative to fossil fuel out of the wonderful cannibis sativa.
Gas for the price of rice...wouldn't that be nice |
my favorite color is go fuck yourself. :D |
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Fluffy
Administrator
USA
10739 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2005 : 5:54:07 PM
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....and unfortunately nothing more than a "wet dream" in America. When will the people learn, stand up and make the govt and big business understand. |
Peace & Keep the Faith Fluffy "THE MUSIC BUSINESS IS A CRUEL AND SHALLOW MONEY TRENCH-- A LONG PLASTIC HALLWAY WHERE THIEVES AND PIMPS RUN FREE AND GOOD MEN DIE LIKE DOGS. THERE'S ALSO A NEGATIVE SIDE..." -Hunter S. Thompson |
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Robin
Yak Addict
USA
598 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2005 : 8:48:59 PM
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I know, we all just accept it as if we have to. What about everyone not driving, and having a citizens of America strike? Even a day would have a huge impact. We do have power we just haven't rememeberd how to use it in along TIMe. Here in Santa Cruz gas is now $3.09,$3.15 and $3.19. That was at the cheapest stations where there weren,'t lines but people were visibly shaken and kind frenzy buying. I'm hoping I can get a little cheaper tomorrow down south.Be well everyone, and pray/hope for our brothers and sisters in Louisianna and Alabama. Peace,Robin |
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Silky The Pimp
Alien Abductee
3321 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2005 : 10:15:06 AM
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This site is pretty decent and it can never hurt to check if you know what route you're going to be going when you need gas.
http://www.gaspricewatch.com/new/ |
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enthuTIMsiast
Alien Abductee
6990 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2005 : 11:25:00 AM
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I'm not paying a cent for gas; my town is completely out. |
Tim Reynolds Downloads I am not the albatross of love, I am the human ellipsis. I am dot dot dot. - Leo Kottke
I hate beating people over the head with anything. We can all make up our own minds. What we don’t have is enough music. More music please. - Leo Kottke |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
3776 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2005 : 1:12:34 PM
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out of gas? holy shit. it's getting pretty bad. |
death to false metal. |
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enthuTIMsiast
Alien Abductee
6990 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2005 : 1:23:48 PM
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quote: Originally posted by dan p.
out of gas? holy shit. it's getting pretty bad.
Yep, out of gas. Most of the stations I saw yesterday (maybe 4 of 5) had the plastic bags over the pump handles. The ones without that had no customers, and signs on the pumps, so were obviously out of gas too.
It's weird when you actually get to considering it... These people who live far away from work.. what are they supposed to do when they're out of gas? Even if they can afford it, there's just nowhere to get it. Will they quit getting paid because they can't buy gas to get to work? Will they camp out at work so they can get paid? I'm not trying to emote or anything, I'm honestly wondering this sort of thing. It's curious. |
Tim Reynolds Downloads I am not the albatross of love, I am the human ellipsis. I am dot dot dot. - Leo Kottke
I hate beating people over the head with anything. We can all make up our own minds. What we don’t have is enough music. More music please. - Leo Kottke |
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Zachmozach
Fluffy-Esque
USA
1534 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2005 : 1:45:20 PM
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Yeah, it's not looking good for those of you in the south. I see this as a warning to the future. What are you going to do when petroleum is no longer available the way it is now or I guess a week or so ago. |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
3776 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2005 : 1:55:25 PM
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it's fucked up. because now if you want gas, you have to drive further to get it, and that uses more gas. quite the spiral. what you could do is brign gas cans, fill your tank and the cans, and then when you need gas, you don't have to drive to get it as much.
what are gas stations going to do to stay in business with no gas? let me tell you, those hotdogs aren't going to cut it. |
death to false metal. |
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Zachmozach
Fluffy-Esque
USA
1534 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2005 : 2:33:05 PM
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Ya, but imagine a week or so from now. I mean 1/3 or so of the countries gas is going to just not be there for consumption. I'm sure the stations will make out ok if they can get the refineries back up in the next couple of weeks, but there is going to be no shortage of hell until then. Life is just going to be pretty abnormal for a while and I hope people can find a way to deal with it. |
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enthuTIMsiast
Alien Abductee
6990 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2005 : 2:39:07 PM
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quote: Originally posted by dan p.
what you could do is brign gas cans, fill your tank and the cans, and then when you need gas, you don't have to drive to get it as much.
Most stations that do have gas are placing a $10 limit on purchases. So there goes that idea. |
Tim Reynolds Downloads I am not the albatross of love, I am the human ellipsis. I am dot dot dot. - Leo Kottke
I hate beating people over the head with anything. We can all make up our own minds. What we don’t have is enough music. More music please. - Leo Kottke |
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Fluffy
Administrator
USA
10739 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2005 : 2:46:11 PM
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I would suggest converting your car to vegetable oil. Lots of folks have done it, I even know one personally. Will from the SeepeopleS has not paid for gas in over a year. He just drives around the corner to his local chinese restaurant and has them empty their grease vat into his trunk and voila!!! fuel for his car. NO COST and the restaurant is happy to give it to him because if they don't they have to PAY to dispose of it. Everybody wins! Most of all the enviroment. Will says the only drawback is that he constantly smells chinese food while he is driving and it makes him hungry. He did say if you prefer you can go to McDonalds and do the same thing and then your car reeks of french fries. Here is a link for anyone who doesn't believe or wants to check out an "ALTERNATE" fuel option.
http://www.greasecar.com/ http://www.greasecar.com/ http://www.greasecar.com/
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Peace & Keep the Faith Fluffy "THE MUSIC BUSINESS IS A CRUEL AND SHALLOW MONEY TRENCH-- A LONG PLASTIC HALLWAY WHERE THIEVES AND PIMPS RUN FREE AND GOOD MEN DIE LIKE DOGS. THERE'S ALSO A NEGATIVE SIDE..." -Hunter S. Thompson |
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Zachmozach
Fluffy-Esque
USA
1534 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2005 : 2:53:41 PM
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Ya vegtable oil works pretty well. Here in Oregon there is a guy who runs his entire construction company off of bio diesel and vegtable oil. He was saying that you need some sort of filtration system to get the grease thing going, but he has had absolutely no problems with it. Another guy here runs a landscaping company off of grass clippings. If I was driving I think that would be the way to go. There are so many other options out there. The thing is to that we are going to have to be the ones to make this a real energy source, and push it to the maistream. I mean the car manufactures and oil companies aren't going to do it.
Adam Corolla the other night was comparing the cars now to the cars from back when, and he brings up some mid size SUV that seats 5 and gets like 20 or so to the gallon. Then he shows an old VW bus that he said can hold 8 stoners and gets you 35 mpg and it only costed $1800. Then he went off about what direction we were headed, but it's true.
Oh and as a side note I've heard that deisel engines were originally designed to not be running on petrol. They were originally designed to run on bio fuels and it took almost 10 years to make them pheasable for petrol based fuels. Can anyone confirm this? |
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enthuTIMsiast
Alien Abductee
6990 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2005 : 3:10:44 PM
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Don't the grease cars have to start out as diesel? I think so, which would mean the purchase of another vehicle for many (most) people. |
Tim Reynolds Downloads I am not the albatross of love, I am the human ellipsis. I am dot dot dot. - Leo Kottke
I hate beating people over the head with anything. We can all make up our own minds. What we don’t have is enough music. More music please. - Leo Kottke |
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Fluffy
Administrator
USA
10739 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2005 : 3:19:13 PM
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I think that is the case, BUT with prices the way they are how long would it take to pay back the money you spent on a used diesel if you weren't paying for gas? Here is an informative story on the subject since noone seems to be clicking on the link I provided above which answers all the questions that have been put forth since I posted the comment. LOL
Grease Is The Word For Car Economy
WESTON, Conn., May 24, 2004
(AP) As the nation grapples with pumped-up gas prices, car owners are turning to their favorite restaurants for a solution: recycled vegetable oil.
Environmentalists have been using the fuel alternative for years as a way to cut back on sooty emissions, but as gas prices soar above $2 a gallon, they say their "veggie cars" are also a great way to save some cash.
Every two weeks, Etta Kantor drives to a local Chinese restaurant to fuel her blue Volkswagen Jetta. She calls ahead and the owner knows to put aside a few buckets of used oil just for her. At home, Kantor uses a colander and a bag filter to remove water and any food particles.
The vegetable oil is then poured into a 15-gallon tank that sits in the back of her Jetta, where a spare tire would usually be kept. With a touch of a button, located above the radio, Kantor can switch from diesel fuel to vegetable oil in seconds.
"Oh, I zip around town, go fast on highways. It's not any different," said Kantor, 58, of Weston.
Restaurants have to pay to get rid of their old vegetable oil and are happy to give it away for free.
"It saves us a couple of dollars and it helps to save the environment a bit so I thought, 'Why not?'" said Shawn Reilly, a co-owner of Eli's On Whitney, a restaurant in Hamden.
Reilly estimates that it costs between $40 and $60 a month to have the oil removed otherwise.
The restaurant's only oil collector, Bridgeport resident Aaron Schlechter, says he picks up about 30 or 40 gallons twice a month from Eli's. He uses it to fuel his car for his 170-mile commute every day to his job as an environmental consultant in Staten Island, N.Y.
"The only way that I can assuage my guilt by driving this awful distance is by driving something that isn't consuming fossil fuels and has much more environmentally friendly emissions," Schlechter, 29, said.
Vegetable oil is becoming such a rage that a Massachusetts company called Greasecar, is buying it in bulk from a distributor and selling it to local customers. It sells for 90 cents a gallon, said company founder Justin Carven.
Since 2001, Greasecar has also been selling conversion kits, like the one in Kantor's car, that allow diesel cars to run on the recycled oil. The kits only work on diesel engines. About 200 kits were sold in the past year, Carven said.
A standard conversion kit sells for $800 at Greasecar.
"Once you install it, though, you are saving hundreds and hundreds of dollars," he said. "The product usually pays for itself within the first year."
Using the conversion kit, the car must be started and stopped on diesel fuel. A separate fuel tank is installed to hold the vegetable oil. Once the car is running and the vegetable oil has heated up, it can be switched over to run on just the vegetable oil.
The oil must be heated because it is thicker and tends to congeal in the cold weather, Carven said.
Similarly, Liquid Solar in Ithaca, N.Y., has contracts with a few local restaurants to collect their used vegetable oil. And in Santa Rosa, Calif., a group of 50 people have formed a co-op to buy the oil in bulk from a local manufacturer and then filter it for their own use.
Although the Environmental Protection Agency has given a stamp of approval for vegetable-based biodiesel, it hasn't approved any recycled oil for sale, said Christine Sansevero, an environmental engineer for EPA.
"You just don't know what's in that oil," she said. "There could be metals, other chemicals that, when burned, could create something you didn't intend to burn. It could also be fine, but it's an unknown."
Biodiesel is a fuel derived from plant oil or animal fat, Sansevero said. It can be used in pure form but it is often blended with regular diesel. The most common form is B20 — a blend of 20 percent biodiesel and 80 percent petroleum diesel.
Veggie car owners agree that biodiesel is another renewable fuel source, but say it isn't as cost effective or eco-friendly. Pure biodiesel costs about $1 more per gallon than diesel, Sansevero said. B20 costs about 20 cents more per gallon than diesel, she said.
The trend is catching on, especially for those who have a distance to drive.
The Healing Waters Band had a Greasecar conversion kit installed in its bus for a recent seven-week tour across the country. The band used a blended biodiesel mix to start and stop the engine, and vegetable oil for the rest.
The band left its hometown of San Diego on a full tank of vegetable oil and then filled up again at a Chinese restaurant in Missouri before buying 500 gallons during a stop at Greasecar in Massachusetts.
"We only spent $200 that would have normally cost us about $1,200, and we probably could have done it all for free if we kept stopping (at restaurants)," said Tony Thorpe, 34, a bassist and vocalist for the band.
In Connecticut, Kantor is hoping to start her own small distribution center so she and others won't have to rely so heavily on restaurants for fuel.
"You know that expression, 'If you build it, they will come.' Well, if we make it accessible, people will use it," Kantor said.
By Laura Walsh ©MMIV The Associated Press.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/05/24/tech/main619289.shtml
PS: I haven't heard about this happening yet, BUT you can bet it will. If you don't have a locking gas cap I would advise getting one asap. How long before they start breaking into our cars to siphon the gas. Without a locking gas cap you will be wishing you did. Unfortunately they won't discover that until after they break your window to release the latch. Hopefully they won't bother with smaller cars with less gas at their disposal, like mine. And hopefully when they start stealing gas from cars they will only do it from cars that have easily accessible, non-locking gas doors. Probably won't matter because "THEY" don't care about my broken window and how much it costs to replace. hehe |
Peace & Keep the Faith Fluffy "THE MUSIC BUSINESS IS A CRUEL AND SHALLOW MONEY TRENCH-- A LONG PLASTIC HALLWAY WHERE THIEVES AND PIMPS RUN FREE AND GOOD MEN DIE LIKE DOGS. THERE'S ALSO A NEGATIVE SIDE..." -Hunter S. Thompson |
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Silky The Pimp
Alien Abductee
3321 Posts |
Posted - 09/04/2005 : 5:55:20 PM
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100+ years using the same basic engine technology is absurd. The rising oil prices could theoretically throw us right back into a recession, but it's way past due. If the prices rise enough to cause a major crisis, it will force the hands of auto makers to look at alternative fuels and energy sources, which is necessary from more than just an economic standpoint, as we all know. |
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pcbTIM
Alien Abductee
USA
6501 Posts |
Posted - 09/04/2005 : 10:08:09 PM
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Here's a quote from Michael Crichton's State of Fear:
quote: There are many reasons to shift away from fossil fuels, and we will do so in the next century without legislation, financial incentives, carbon-conservation programs, or the interminable yammering of fearmongers. So far as I know, nobody had to ban horse transport in the early twentieth century.
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Gay marriage killed the dinosaurs. |
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Fluffy
Administrator
USA
10739 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2006 : 10:31:17 PM
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Thought it would be fun to revive this and see the difference. Seems as we near the election gas prices are dropping. Surprise, surprise, funny how that happens. Uggghhhh! So driving thru TX the other day I saw 2 stations with $1.97 a gallon. A couple more with $1.99 and few more with $2.01 per gallon. Here in FL we are averaging around $2.20 a gallon. To bad they will just jump right back up after the next bogus election. |
Peace & Keep the Faith Fluffy "THE MUSIC BUSINESS IS A CRUEL AND SHALLOW MONEY TRENCH-- A LONG PLASTIC HALLWAY WHERE THIEVES AND PIMPS RUN FREE AND GOOD MEN DIE LIKE DOGS. THERE'S ALSO A NEGATIVE SIDE..." -Hunter S. Thompson |
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Fluffy
Administrator
USA
10739 Posts |
Posted - 10/16/2006 : 5:29:54 PM
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Yesterday we paid $1.96 and the 6 other gas stations at the exit were $1.97-$1.99. A few exits later we say it as cheap as $1.93. This was in GA so ya know. |
Peace & Keep the Faith Fluffy "THE MUSIC BUSINESS IS A CRUEL AND SHALLOW MONEY TRENCH-- A LONG PLASTIC HALLWAY WHERE THIEVES AND PIMPS RUN FREE AND GOOD MEN DIE LIKE DOGS. THERE'S ALSO A NEGATIVE SIDE..." -Hunter S. Thompson |
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Robin
Yak Addict
USA
598 Posts |
Posted - 10/16/2006 : 5:31:00 PM
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You are so right on about this. It's been over three dollars since last year, and just recently like in the last two weeks it's dropped to around $2.35. I'm waiting to see what happens after the election because there is no rhyme or reason for the drop.Peace, Robin |
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GuitarGuy305
Alien Abductee
USA
2007 Posts |
Posted - 10/16/2006 : 7:30:55 PM
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Ours (Cedar Rapids, Iowa) is back up to $2.06 actually. We got down to $1.96 last week. It sounds like prices are still generally falling nationwide, so hopefully ours will go down a bit more.
By the way, you can all thank my wife and I for this drop in gas prices. We just put money down on a hybrid. By the time we drive it off the lot, I expect gas prices to be down below $1! |
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PJK
Alien Abductee
USA
4159 Posts |
Posted - 10/17/2006 : 11:17:24 PM
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Just paid $2.299 today. Our gas here in the Philly area is higher than other places in PA because of our polution taxes and gas additives. When I go out to Lancaster, it is almost always about ten cents cheaper, same with State College PA, and I live close to the refineries, go figure! |
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tericee
Alien Abductee
USA
2579 Posts |
Posted - 10/18/2006 : 08:03:56 AM
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quote: Originally posted by pcbTIM
Here's a quote from Michael Crichton's State of Fear:
quote: There are many reasons to shift away from fossil fuels, and we will do so in the next century without legislation, financial incentives, carbon-conservation programs, or the interminable yammering of fearmongers. So far as I know, nobody had to ban horse transport in the early twentieth century.
That's an awesome quote; sorry I didn't notice it last year.
BTW, I know our Exchange gas prices went down as of 1 October, but I don't actually know what they are... I've been taking the train or letting other people drive so I haven't bought gas in about a month.
I'll post next time I fill my tank. |
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tericee
Alien Abductee
USA
2579 Posts |
Posted - 10/18/2006 : 08:16:54 AM
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Also, if you're interested in seeing average prices all over the country, DOE keeps track at http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/gdu/gasdiesel.asp
And even more interesting is this chart of petrol prices all over the world. (It translates everyone's prices into Euro cents per litre so you don't have to do the math yourself.) http://www.aaroadwatch.ie/eupetrolprices/
Just look how cheap ours is compared to everyone else's. (The difference has been about the same the whole time I've been in Europe, regardless of elections. You can look at past months on the same website if you're interested.)
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Fluffy
Administrator
USA
10739 Posts |
Posted - 10/19/2006 : 07:18:12 AM
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Today in Pontotoc, MS(between Tupelo and Oxford)we paid $1.96 per gallon. Lovin' life, filling the tank for under 40 bucks!! Whooohoo! |
Peace & Keep the Faith Fluffy "THE MUSIC BUSINESS IS A CRUEL AND SHALLOW MONEY TRENCH-- A LONG PLASTIC HALLWAY WHERE THIEVES AND PIMPS RUN FREE AND GOOD MEN DIE LIKE DOGS. THERE'S ALSO A NEGATIVE SIDE..." -Hunter S. Thompson |
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PJK
Alien Abductee
USA
4159 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2006 : 06:52:09 AM
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Saw a station on the way to my sister's in New Jersey yesterday that had gas for $1.91 9/10! That 9/10 thing still really bugs the hell out of me, LOL!
Most of the stations we passed in Jersey were in the low $1.90's
I paid $196 in Lancaster PA on Sat., still around Philly it's about 10 cents higher. |
"It is hard enough to remember my opinions, without also remembering my reasons for them!"Friedrich Nietzsche |
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tericee
Alien Abductee
USA
2579 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2006 : 11:35:16 AM
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I paid 1,31 per liter yesterday when I couldn't find a station that would take my NATO gas coupons... I only bought 10 Euros worth so I could keep looking for an Esso. |
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Robin
Yak Addict
USA
598 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2006 : 10:55:55 PM
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Well here on the central coast of Ca I paid 2.57 for mid grade, that was sooo cheap for here. I was thrilled. Kinda sick when you get exited for gas to be under three bucks a gall. Peace, Robin |
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Zachmozach
Fluffy-Esque
USA
1534 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2006 : 11:41:55 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Robin
Well here on the central coast of Ca I paid 2.57 for mid grade, that was sooo cheap for here. I was thrilled. Kinda sick when you get exited for gas to be under three bucks a gall. Peace, Robin
Yep it's a way to condition the market. Now people here are happy to pay under $2.50. |
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tericee
Alien Abductee
USA
2579 Posts |
Posted - 11/25/2006 : 10:11:12 AM
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Believe it or not, my parents and I paid $1.96 the day after Thanksgiving on our way from near Houston to Dallas. Amazing! |
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Robin
Yak Addict
USA
598 Posts |
Posted - 11/25/2006 : 12:57:39 PM
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Let me just say that TX has interestingly low gas prices. I was in Tucson last week and it wasn't much cheaper than here on the Central Coast of CA.It's around 2.55 for the low grade stuff. Hope your Thanksgiving with the family was wonderful BTW.Peace, Robin |
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Fluffy
Administrator
USA
10739 Posts |
Posted - 11/27/2008 : 3:25:56 PM
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So we watched gas prices plummet on this last TR3 run of shows. We were constantly on the lookout for the lowest price and we found that in TX: $1.59 per gallon. While most stations were hovering around $1.79. That same day we saw $1.77, pulled into the gas station, pumped the gas and I looked at my receipt, $1.76 per gallon. Confused, I looked back at the very same sign we had seen from the freeway and it now said $1.75. So in a matter of minutes gas dropped 2 cents. LOL About an hour later we saw the $1.59 price. For the next week it seemed to be in the $1.64-$1.69 range for the most part. We did end up seeing one other gas station with $1.59 a few days later. The lowest we paid on the TouR was $1.61 per gallon. Here on OBX it's about $1.79 currently. In Norfolk, VA it's about $1.65. I can't believe we are all getting excited for gas thats still almost $2 a gallon but given recent prices how can you not. LOL It's still to high but getting better. Hope it holds out or better yet keeps dropping. Well see! |
Peace & Keep the Faith Fluffy "THE MUSIC BUSINESS IS A CRUEL AND SHALLOW MONEY TRENCH-- A LONG PLASTIC HALLWAY WHERE THIEVES AND PIMPS RUN FREE AND GOOD MEN DIE LIKE DOGS. THERE'S ALSO A NEGATIVE SIDE..." -Hunter S. Thompson |
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dirtysloth
Fluffy-Esque
USA
1302 Posts |
Posted - 11/30/2008 : 1:10:12 PM
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I just saw $1.49 yesterday down the street here in Roanoke, VA. This is great for now. We'll see. |
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
4845 Posts |
Posted - 11/30/2008 : 2:22:01 PM
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Central Coast, CA is a hair under $2.00, right about 1.95 or 1.97. Thank God. |
Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see." Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!" cbenc41@hotmail.com |
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dirtysloth
Fluffy-Esque
USA
1302 Posts |
Posted - 12/02/2008 : 12:49:08 PM
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$1.42 (9/10) ! ! ! |
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Hopeful Rolling Waves
Alien Abductee
South Sandwich Islands
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
4845 Posts |
Posted - 12/02/2008 : 2:28:25 PM
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I'll take what I can get at this point HRW! By the way, did you check out the Genesis boxset? I know Kevin got it, he said it's amazing. |
Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see." Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!" cbenc41@hotmail.com |
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Fluffy
Administrator
USA
10739 Posts |
Posted - 12/02/2008 : 7:59:08 PM
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TR looked at it in a Barnes & Noble the other nite. I think he is going to get it. Just wasn't ready that nite. hehe |
Peace & Keep the Faith Fluffy "THE MUSIC BUSINESS IS A CRUEL AND SHALLOW MONEY TRENCH-- A LONG PLASTIC HALLWAY WHERE THIEVES AND PIMPS RUN FREE AND GOOD MEN DIE LIKE DOGS. THERE'S ALSO A NEGATIVE SIDE..." -Hunter S. Thompson |
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GuitarGuy305
Alien Abductee
USA
2007 Posts |
Posted - 12/02/2008 : 10:32:54 PM
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Enjoy it while it lasts. It will go back up. But I guess that's why we have our beautiful coastlines and ANWR to rape!! |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
3776 Posts |
Posted - 12/02/2008 : 11:25:38 PM
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it's not rape if it doesn't say no.
in mass, we're paying about 1.90. in new york we're still decently over $2, because new york gets assfucked so deep with cough it up. |
death to false metal. |
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jsemon2
Yak Addict
USA
920 Posts |
Posted - 12/06/2008 : 10:30:31 AM
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gas has been under 1.60 for over a month now in Indiana and was under 2 dollars back in october. its been at 1.53 for a week now.
to think i was paying 4.25 this summer for gas in utah |
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