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rubylith
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Posted - 12/02/2008 :  3:27:26 PM  Show Profile  Visit rubylith's Homepage  Reply with Quote
If you goto the page there are hyper links to the reference news articles.


http://www.infowars.net/articles/december2008/021208Musicians.htm

London Musicians Must Give Police Swathes Of Personal Information To Perform Live

Eight page form will detail names, aliases, private addresses, phone numbers of all musicians and ethnic background of the likely audience


Steve Watson
Infowars.net
Tuesday, Dec 2, 2008

Musicians and performers in London will soon be required by law to complete and hand over to police an eight page form detailing all their personal information and the ethnic background of their audience if they want to perform.

The information will be collected by venue owners and managers throughout the city, who will have to adhere to the process should they wish to promote live music.

Failure to comply with the information demanded on Form 696 could mean the loss of a license or even a fine and imprisonment, reports the London Independent.

Police quietly introduced the legislation in 2006, and have recently defended it, saying they need the details in order to ensure safety and "identify troublemakers".

Groups of musicians and promoters have slammed the move, suggesting that it will harm the live music scene and encourages venues to effectively spy on patrons. Others have described the bureaucratic process as a form of racial discrimination. There are also fears that the legislation will be applied throughout the country if it is accepted in the capital.

The Musicians' Union is consulting lawyers over the invasion of privacy, while another group, UK Music is seeking a judicial review.
As with most recent legislative erosions of civil liberties, form 696 is a phenomenon of the culture of fear our governments have consistently fashioned and promoted over the past decade. In a post 9/11 / post 7/7 world, everyone is treated as a suspect until proven otherwise, especially if you have brown skin and a foreign sounding name.

Musicians and performers are no exception.

Take the case of The Clash tribute band member Mike Devine who was arrested at his office in Bristol and taken away for questioning after he sent an SMS text message containing lyrics from the song Tommy Gun to his lead singer who had forgotten the words.

The message read:

"How about this for Tommy Gun? OK - SO LET'S AGREE ABOUT THE PRICE AND MAKE IT ONE JET AIRLINER AND TEN PRISONERS"

A terrorism analyst told reporters that the interception provided proof that Britain's spy teams at GCHQ were actively monitoring all vocal and textual mobile phone traffic.

That was 2004, now in 2008 the British Government has openly announced that it wants to make that very practice lawful.

In a similar incident, Harraj Mann was reported to the British airport police for listening to a Clash record in a taxi on the way to the airport. The weasel driver was so frightened by some of the lyrics that he took them as a rallying call for a terrorist attack.

Of course it is unlikely that the police or the government will raise an eyebrow to the mindless gibberish passing for lyrical content in the majority of musical performers' work.

Ask yourself, who is more likely to be classed as the "troublemaker"? Will it be the performers who sing endlessly about money, bling and easy girls or will it be those who wish to address real issues and make their audiences think about more than the pursuit of expensive baubles and trinkets?

Sign a petition to the Prime Minister Gordon Brown to get the Metropolitan Police to scrap the use of Form 696.

Facebook Group - Stand Up To Form 696

dan p.
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Posted - 12/02/2008 :  11:20:54 PM  Show Profile  Send dan p. an AOL message  Reply with Quote
a) money, bling and easy girls are real issues that require attention.

b) so. . .there won't be many black metal bands performing in england anymore?

death to false metal.
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rubylith
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Posted - 12/03/2008 :  1:03:42 PM  Show Profile  Visit rubylith's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Why because their identities are so mysterious? haha Dan did you see that South Park about the goth kids? Hilarious.
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dan p.
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Posted - 12/03/2008 :  5:27:17 PM  Show Profile  Send dan p. an AOL message  Reply with Quote
well that and they hate christians.

south park is really hit or miss for me. a lot of times i find it predictable and not all that amusing. that and the shock value of a lot of stuff they do doesn't really impress me. they do some good every so often, but i mostly skip the show now.

death to false metal.
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Arthen
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Posted - 12/03/2008 :  6:46:56 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dan p.

well that and they hate christians.

south park is really hit or miss for me. a lot of times i find it predictable and not all that amusing. that and the shock value of a lot of stuff they do doesn't really impress me. they do some good every so often, but i mostly skip the show now.



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rubylith
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Posted - 12/03/2008 :  7:12:38 PM  Show Profile  Visit rubylith's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yea I haven't had television in years but when I did I think I only watched South Park and the Simpsons...oh yea and Joe Schmo haha. I saw it randomly at a friends house and laughed my ass off. Oh and I saw the McCain/Obama one that was amusing, but ya I know what you mean. Are the Simpsons still funny?
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Ranting Thespian
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USA
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Posted - 12/04/2008 :  01:11:21 AM  Show Profile  Send Ranting Thespian an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I have to say Fringe has turned out to be quite good. One of a few actual new american shows I watch, that along with House and Family Guy.

But I partially agree with Dan about south park. They are a hit and miss with me too. Not so much that they are predictable, but sometimes they go to far.

Not communicating can hurt more than any word that can be said -

Nick
-the Ranting Thespian
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dan p.
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Posted - 12/04/2008 :  6:10:01 PM  Show Profile  Send dan p. an AOL message  Reply with Quote
i am entirely obsessed with house.

death to false metal.
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Hopeful Rolling Waves
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Posted - 12/05/2008 :  12:10:31 PM  Show Profile  Send Hopeful Rolling Waves an AOL message  Reply with Quote
TV rots your brain.

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dan p.
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Posted - 12/05/2008 :  3:16:38 PM  Show Profile  Send dan p. an AOL message  Reply with Quote
my brain's fine.

lupus rots your brain.

death to false metal.
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Ranting Thespian
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Posted - 12/07/2008 :  03:35:37 AM  Show Profile  Send Ranting Thespian an AOL message  Reply with Quote
According to "The Wall", it says "Worms" destroy it.

Not communicating can hurt more than any word that can be said -

Nick
-the Ranting Thespian
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Hopeful Rolling Waves
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Posted - 12/07/2008 :  2:39:53 PM  Show Profile  Send Hopeful Rolling Waves an AOL message  Reply with Quote
The kid from The Bad News Bears?

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