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thewayfarer
Is Anybody Here?
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 Posted - 12/15/2002 : 5:05:47 PM
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The people on this board, I've noticed, are some of the most intellectual, smart, and yet down to earth people I have come into contact on the internet. I come here when I want to talk to real people, and not immature people or people who are just a tad bit too idealistic. It's good to be dreamer, but to an extent. Anyway, enough of this rambling. I love the people on this board, I love this board, and that's why I've decided to come here to ask your opinions on this. I know this is not a romance forum, but I figured I'd do better with you guys than on one of those anyway.
I'll start from the beginning. My experience in writing songs for girl is not very extensive, but the few times I have done it have resulted in her running away for whatever reason. Even if she loved the song. I figure it's because it's a very intense thing, and some poeple just don't know how to handle it.
I met this girl in the store that I work at. It's a grocery store. I'm a stock clerk, and she is a bakery chick. And a big problem I always have is trying to figure out how I feel about a girl, and how she feels about me. I mean this girl is hot, and she's REALLY cool. We talk and get along. I'm really digging her. But I don't know how much she is digging me. It started with me passing her in the store and saying "Hello" and "How's it going?" randomly and she giving a good response, smiling and one day she stuck teasingly stuck her tongue out at me. I thought it was going good. One day I asked her out and she gave me her phone number and we agreed to go out to dinner. SHe cancelled on me at practically the last minute. I don't know why. Anyway, I still really like this girl. She is crazy hot and really really cool. We have talked several times. i wrote a song for her and I want to sing it her, but I'm not sure if I should.
I had this realization the other night and for those of you who are following me on this, I thank you from the bottom of my heart. I realized that women maybe want to be chased. The realization came to me in the form of two suirrels that run through the trees in the spring time. That female is bolting like lightning and jumping from branch to branch and doing whatever the hell she can do to get away from this male squirrel. And what is the male squirrel doing? If someone shot him in the tail, it wouldn't stop from going after this chick. My point is, I think I should chase this girl, maybe she wants to be chased. I want to sing this song to her. But now that you know my situation, I'll type out the lyrics and you can tell me if you think it's too soon to sing it to her, maybe wait until the friendship develops a little more, or if i should take a chance and sing it to her now.
Can't you see
by the way
I'm not leaving
That you're all I need in my life?
Haunt me here
while I'm dreaming
put all my tensions far away
It's all that I need-- to see
your pretty face.
This infatuation is driving me insane
Have you ever been told
How lovely your hair looks
When it's down?
It feels like heaven
when we're talking
And in your eyes
I see a hope
For all that might come under the sun.
And there we are in my dreams
with you so in love with me
It's all that I need in my life.
This infatuation is driving me insane
Have you ever been told
How lovely your hair looks
when it's down?
There you have it? Opinions? Input? Suggestions on what I should do? Anything would be greatly appreciated. You guys are the best. Thank you.
P.S. Lyrics copyright 2002 Rob Augustine Reris (just in case) |
"Underneath you know well you have nothing to fear, for the dreams that came to you when so young, told of a life where spring is sprung."
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Fleabass76
Fluffy-Esque
USA
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Posted - 12/15/2002 : 5:19:59 PM
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Hmm...I think it would be really hard for any of us to guage if it's a good idea or not w/o meeting her. What I would do if I was in your situation is go on a date or something, maybe end up back at your place or i dunno, place your guitar somewhere where she'll notice it and maybe even ask you to play it. And then you sing the song. Then it's almost more romantic because it's SO spontaneous, yet it's not... I dunno, just my thoughts, but you know her better than I do..
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pcbTIM
Alien Abductee
USA
6501 Posts |
Posted - 12/15/2002 : 6:55:34 PM
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| I dunno. I mean, you haven't even gone out on a date with her yet....and you already have a song about her. I think that would creep most women out......the way I see it is that she'd be somewhat flatered, but at the same TIMe, a little disturbed. Ya know? Ahhh.....but then again, knowing what girls think isn't exactly my forte. |
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Saint Jude
Alien Abductee
USA
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Posted - 12/15/2002 : 7:06:26 PM
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| i agree w/ pcb. after a few dates, or more intimate then friendly meetings i would say the song would be a kewl addition. or if u play her just the guitar part to her first, then say like... ill write some lyrics to it about you later. then play / sing that to her over time. i think that would be a better idea. thats my 2 cents... but dont make a complete decision on what anyone else says. do what u want, its your life and choices. so gluck. |
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Street-Samurai
Is Anybody Here?
USA
37 Posts |
Posted - 12/15/2002 : 8:11:58 PM
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| In my opinion I think you should hold off on the song until you know each other better. It takes TIMe to figure someone out and until she figures you out it might scare her away. A song like that will have a much greater effect when she knows you rather than just seeming obssesive. A lot depends on the girl too. Some girls would want to have sex on the spot others would run for the door. Make your own judgment. |
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enthuTIMsiast
Alien Abductee
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Posted - 12/16/2002 : 10:34:52 AM
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I agree with most everyone. Play the song only if it seems like it wasn't planned. Sure girls like to be chased (not chaste), but only to a limit. I like what whoever said...play the music once to her, and then say you might put down some lyrics... But don't lie to her (cause that's bad), just choose your words carefully... Then play and sing next time.
Sorry I had nothing new to offer. |
Tim Reynolds Downloads
I am not the albatross of love, I am the human ellipsis. I am dot dot dot. - Leo Kottke
I hate beating people over the head with anything. We can all make up our own minds. What we don’t have is enough music. More music please. - Leo Kottke |
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teresa
Is Anybody Here?
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Posted - 12/16/2002 : 10:37:25 AM
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hi!!! i'm new here but i saw your message and i felt like answering it!! being a girl and all... of course we like being chased but because it's good for our ego!!! i think that girls are intrigued when not chased... Know what i mean?? i'm portuguese so sorry for my english..sometimes i can't express myself that well... anyway, if you're always around her and show her too soon that she can take you for granted, that initial flame is gone... you have to show her that you like her but not too much... little by little to make her hold on to you... but of course i don't know her.. you are the one who has to see what's best in your situation!! well, just trying to help
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enthuTIMsiast
Alien Abductee
6990 Posts |
Posted - 12/16/2002 : 10:45:30 AM
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| Well, even if you are Portugese, your English is spectacular. And I should know. I'm an expert. |
Tim Reynolds Downloads
I am not the albatross of love, I am the human ellipsis. I am dot dot dot. - Leo Kottke
I hate beating people over the head with anything. We can all make up our own minds. What we don’t have is enough music. More music please. - Leo Kottke |
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Silky The Pimp
Alien Abductee
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Posted - 12/16/2002 : 1:37:04 PM
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| Ditto... too soon, too wierd, too forward. |
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SpaceMonkey
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Posted - 12/16/2002 : 2:16:16 PM
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| I would definitely go with the music stuff if it works for you...my suggestion would be whipping it out (the guitar) and singing some super-corny song you can make up off the top of your head or some cheesey ballad...at the very least you can make her laugh without sticking it (your neck) out there. |
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GuitarGuy305
Alien Abductee
USA
2007 Posts |
Posted - 12/16/2002 : 8:55:00 PM
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I wouldn't play the song right out. I've had some experience with this, and it freaks most girls out if it is too soon.
Here's what I have done to break the ice, so to speak, on the guitar matter with girls. Yes, figure out a way to get her to your place...or somewhere with a guitar, where she may ask you to play. Play a song, or anything, Crash, something Tim, anything. Ask her for requests...etc...
Then say "you know, I even started writing a song about you..."
She may seem a bit weirded out...then start to play...the guitar part to the song you wrote, or just loosely strum a C chord or something...
For the example we'll say her name is Katie...
Sing once, "Katie"....then stop playing and say "That's all ive got so far"
I've pulled this gag on a few girls, and they truly believe at first youve written a song about them, then laugh when you simply sing their name and say thats all you have so far. The laughter is probably both from it being funny, and from them being relieved that you didn't actually write a song about them so early in your relationship.
It may actually not translate so well in text, but hopefully you can get the main idea.
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rhymsesthecat
Try A Little Harder
USA
64 Posts |
Posted - 12/17/2002 : 4:18:14 PM
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space monkey has the idea
dont scare her off by freakin her out
and the girl is also right but dont wait to long |
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thewayfarer
Is Anybody Here?
USA
37 Posts |
Posted - 12/18/2002 : 11:45:15 AM
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| Damn I wish I would've checked this board this morning. Thanks to everyone for their input. The deed is done, played the song for her over the phone, and now in hindsight I feel you are all right and I absolutely should have waited. Oh well, at least she liked the song and complemented my guitar playing. In the words of Dave Matthews, "i throw my faith to the face of the next pretty girl to come my way." Albeit, sometimes too soon and too strongly, like in this case. Hopefully one day I'll learn. Thanks to everyone once again! |
"Underneath you know well you have nothing to fear, for the dreams that came to you when so young, told of a life where spring is sprung."
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enthuTIMsiast
Alien Abductee
6990 Posts |
Posted - 12/19/2002 : 11:20:26 AM
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| Well, wayfarer, tell us how long it takes for her to stop talking to you. Or did that happen immediately? Sorry man, you should have definately checked here before you went and played for her. (Just playing her is a completely different story). |
Tim Reynolds Downloads
I am not the albatross of love, I am the human ellipsis. I am dot dot dot. - Leo Kottke
I hate beating people over the head with anything. We can all make up our own minds. What we don’t have is enough music. More music please. - Leo Kottke |
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thewayfarer
Is Anybody Here?
USA
37 Posts |
Posted - 12/20/2002 : 12:47:44 AM
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Yeah, I guess just playing her would've been better. After all, she is just a woman right? Dick.
I wasn't playing her. She's a beautiful woman, and really fuckin cool, and she should be celebrated for those characteristics alone. That's why I wrote the song for her. If she stops talking to me, than that's fine.
I don't think that's going to happen though, as she told me to call her as soon as I get back from Florida. |
"Underneath you know well you have nothing to fear, for the dreams that came to you when so young, told of a life where spring is sprung."
-Nick Drake |
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enthuTIMsiast
Alien Abductee
6990 Posts |
Posted - 12/20/2002 : 01:08:42 AM
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Originally posted by thewayfarer: Yeah, I guess just playing her would've been better. After all, she is just a woman right? Dick.
I'm guessing you're calling me a dick? Well, ok. Fine by me. Obviously you misunderstand sarcasm. Didn't mean to offend you. |
Tim Reynolds Downloads
I am not the albatross of love, I am the human ellipsis. I am dot dot dot. - Leo Kottke
I hate beating people over the head with anything. We can all make up our own minds. What we don’t have is enough music. More music please. - Leo Kottke |
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thewayfarer
Is Anybody Here?
USA
37 Posts |
Posted - 12/20/2002 : 01:15:41 AM
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| I don't misunderstand sarcasm. I feel you were being a dick by implying she would be an idiot to continue talking to me after I wrote the song for her. If that wasn't your intention, I deeply apologize and regret calling you a dick. If it was, then I still think you're a dick. |
"Underneath you know well you have nothing to fear, for the dreams that came to you when so young, told of a life where spring is sprung."
-Nick Drake |
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thewayfarer
Is Anybody Here?
USA
37 Posts |
Posted - 12/20/2002 : 01:25:59 AM
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| Let me explaun myself further. The reason why, now that I've thought about it for a while, that I don't regret doing what I did is this. If this simple thought runs through her mind once, "Wow, somebody wrote a song for me. That's really fucking cool." And it puts a smile on her face, than I don't regret it for an instant, and I'm psyched as hell. Nevermind what it does for me. I have a crush on the girl, that's obvious. But as far as me thinking it was maybe a stupid thing to do, no, I don't think that. |
"Underneath you know well you have nothing to fear, for the dreams that came to you when so young, told of a life where spring is sprung."
-Nick Drake |
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thewayfarer
Is Anybody Here?
USA
37 Posts |
Posted - 12/21/2002 : 09:04:57 AM
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| EnthuTimsiast, just wanted to say that I think I completely misunderstood you, and I'm sorry. I was the one being a dick. |
"Underneath you know well you have nothing to fear, for the dreams that came to you when so young, told of a life where spring is sprung."
-Nick Drake |
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Evergreen
Yak Addict
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Posted - 12/21/2002 : 10:02:23 AM
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I don't know if this will help, but it reminded me of something. A story about a guy who wrote me a song once. Not that the girl in your situation will feel or act the same way but.....
SomeTIMe a while back (my first yr of college,) this guy wrote me a song. We had known each other and been good friends for years thru high school. I had always considered him physically beautiful and a sensitive sincere friend. That part is a bit different form your situation in that you haven't known "your" girl as long. I never had any idea this man felt romantic feelings because we had always just been good friends. He played the song for me to disclose that he wanted to be more than friends. I was completely flattered and felt like it was one of the most special and thoughtful things any guy had ever done. To this day I'm psyched when I think about someone actually taking the TIMe to do something as awesome. No one has ever done it since. The bottom line however, at the TIMe when he played it for me, I wasn't into him romantically. Those feelings just weren't there. I was still so amazed by the song, but it didn't change how I felt. I guess what I'm saying is, it was a REALLY great thing that you did for her but it may not be the deciding factor as to whether she has romantic feelings for you. Don't beat yourself up for playing it for her. I'm willing to bet that regardless of how it turns out, she feels flattered. AND don't chalk it up as over just yet. Anything can happen down the road. Just because she may not be talking to you now, you never know when that might change. But if she doesn't, it was STILL a great gesture on your part.
Feel better! |
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Alien Abductee
USA
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Posted - 12/21/2002 : 10:17:36 AM
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| Flaming Moe anyone? |
'HTG, are you a cute girl?'
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thewayfarer
Is Anybody Here?
USA
37 Posts |
Posted - 12/21/2002 : 1:16:57 PM
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I'll take one, HispanicTeenGuitarist!
I really appreciate the encouragement Evergreen. Cool name by the way. I REALLY needed to hear someone tell me I'm not a flaming psycho or lunatic. Because I was beginning to think that maybe I am for doing this. My trip to Florida didn't work out so I called her before and left a message on her phone. Hopefully she'll still want to talk to me.
btw, what ever happened with you and your friend? |
"Underneath you know well you have nothing to fear, for the dreams that came to you when so young, told of a life where spring is sprung."
-Nick Drake |
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pcbTIM
Alien Abductee
USA
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Posted - 12/22/2002 : 7:17:43 PM
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Originally posted by thewayfarer
I feel you were being a dick by implying she would be an idiot to continue talking to me after I wrote the song for her. If that wasn't your intention, I deeply apologize and regret calling you a dick.
Oh don't apologize. EnthuTIMsiast really is a dick.
Oh....and here's some more sarcasm from the dick....
http://www.timreynolds.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1945 |
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GuitarGuy305
Alien Abductee
USA
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Posted - 12/22/2002 : 10:57:45 PM
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Well, Rob, I for one think it took incredible balls to play the song for her. Playing a song that you've written about someone is basically just like sitting down and telling them exactly how you feel, telling them everything that you've said in the song. And to pour your heart out to someone takes tons of guts, which you certainly have.
My one question is why play for her over the phone, and not wait until you could see her one on one and play for her in person? Lord knows the sound quality would have been better in person.
At any rate, more power to you. And it sounds to me like it may actually work out in your favor. If she told you to call her, then it sounds like she may still want to talk and be friends at least. And if you're friends, you can always be more.
Keep your chin up Rob, and it will all work out for you.
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thewayfarer
Is Anybody Here?
USA
37 Posts |
Posted - 12/23/2002 : 01:08:54 AM
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Yep, I take the apology back, he is a dick.
Guitarguy, I didn't play the song for her in person because I was supposed to leave for Florida that day in the morning. She knew that, so it was cool. Thanks for the encouragement, though. She told me to call her and I did yesterday but she hasn't gotten back to me. We'll see what happens. In any case it's not the end of the world, and I'm actually pretty proud of the song, so hopefully she enjoyed it and other people will enjoy it also. |
"Underneath you know well you have nothing to fear, for the dreams that came to you when so young, told of a life where spring is sprung."
-Nick Drake |
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Evergreen
Yak Addict
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Posted - 12/23/2002 : 09:12:34 AM
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btw, what ever happened with you and your friend?
We are still really close friends. He never let me saying "no" get in the way of our friendship. He was disappointed for a long while, but never alienated me and I never felt uncomfortable around him either. I can always count on him for affection and compliments which is always nice. He lives in Albany, NY now, which is pretty close to me and is an awesome guitarist in a local Albany band and an editor of a large newspaper. I'm actually going to see him over Christmas when I go home to see my family.
I'm happy that you're feeling better about your song.
Keep playing music that's the moral of the story! People will come and go, but music is always around to sooth the soul. Besides haven't you heard.....Chicks love musicians! The experiences ahead will be plentiful.HeeHee! |
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thewayfarer
Is Anybody Here?
USA
37 Posts |
Posted - 12/23/2002 : 3:47:43 PM
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Evergreen, you sound like such an awesome chick. Guess what! I wrote a song for you! Just kidding. But seriously, I can't agree more with you that it is definitely all about the music. My guitar has been my best friend for about four years now, and I assume will probably be for the rest of my life.
I'm really glad to hear that you and your friend are still close. He sounds like an awesome guy. I hope you have a great time over the holidays when you go to see your family and see him play. |
"Underneath you know well you have nothing to fear, for the dreams that came to you when so young, told of a life where spring is sprung."
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