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Posted - 09/05/2002 :  5:03:23 PM  Show Profile  Visit pcbTIM's Homepage  Send pcbTIM an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Well.......today I learned that calculus can make something as simple as finding the area of a triangle unbelievably complicated........here's an example (note: this is what I do everyday.....almost). (second note: I actually enjoy this!!)

Find the area of a triangle with verticies P<2,0,-3>, Q<3,1,0>, R<5,2,2>

Now.......normally i would draw a 3D view of this in 2D......but it's way too hard to do here......so we'll just skip this part......

First, we need to find the distances from P to R and Q to R, so we subtract the Px, Py, and Pz components from the respective components of P and Q.

a=<3,2,5>
b=<2,1,2>

From here, we use the cross product of a & b to find the area

Area = 1/2*|a x b|

= 1 |i j k|
. -*|3 2 5|
. 2 |2 1 2|

Then we break down the matrix........

= .5i|2 5| - .5j|3 5| + .5k|3 2|
......|1 2|.......|2 2|........|2 3|

Now we cross multiply the individual matricies so we can get an answer....

= .5i(4-5) - .5j(6-10) + .5k(9-4)

Simplify........

= -.5 + 2 + 2.5

= 4

There.....the area is 4. Any questions?


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Posted - 09/05/2002 :  5:08:35 PM  Show Profile  Send enthuTIMsiast an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Yes, one. How did calculus make that unbelievably complicated?

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Posted - 09/05/2002 :  5:14:12 PM  Show Profile  Visit pcbTIM's Homepage  Send pcbTIM an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Magic.

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Posted - 09/05/2002 :  5:17:05 PM  Show Profile  Send enthuTIMsiast an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Magic fairy dust?

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Posted - 09/05/2002 :  5:21:29 PM  Show Profile  Visit pcbTIM's Homepage  Send pcbTIM an AOL message  Reply with Quote
No.......just magic.......with a wand.

(And when I said unbelievably complicated, I was referring to the people on the board whose furthest extent of math is Trigonometry.)

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Posted - 09/05/2002 :  6:00:36 PM  Show Profile  Send enthuTIMsiast an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Oh I see.

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Posted - 09/05/2002 :  6:51:23 PM  Show Profile  Visit pcbTIM's Homepage  Send pcbTIM an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Yeah......anyway....back to engineering and physics homework.

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Posted - 09/05/2002 :  7:05:46 PM  Show Profile  Send enthuTIMsiast an AOL message  Reply with Quote
What's your major Patrick? I can't seem to remember. And what year are you?

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Posted - 09/05/2002 :  7:24:19 PM  Show Profile  Visit pcbTIM's Homepage  Send pcbTIM an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Mechanical Engineering....and I'm a sophomore.

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Posted - 09/06/2002 :  12:28:19 AM  Show Profile  Send enthuTIMsiast an AOL message  Reply with Quote
My girl is a sophomore Chemical Engineer. Not that the two are all that related...but that's what her major it. Wait, maybe she's not a sophomore...she's 20..whatever year that makes her. Sophomore, probably.

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Posted - 09/06/2002 :  03:53:50 AM  Show Profile  Visit pcbTIM's Homepage  Send pcbTIM an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Did she recently turn 20? If not, she's probably a junior. but I wouldn't be able to stand that. I hate Chemistry. We (engineers) had to take it first semester last (freshman) year, and hour lecture was followed by a 4 hour lab. It was brutal. For one experiment, we had to heat some metal until it melted, which took 1 h 30 min.......and we had nothing to do in between.

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Posted - 09/06/2002 :  11:18:19 AM  Show Profile  Send enthuTIMsiast an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Nope, she turned 20 over half a year ago...so she's closer to 21, which I suppose means that she's a junior. Yeah, that actually sounds right. I'm not sure she just really loves chemistry either, but she's smart, and I suppose that's a good field, so that's what she chose.

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MIT was really nice to engineers as far as chemistry was concerned. We had to have one class, but we were allowed to choose from one in the Chemistry Depatment (Intro to Organic Chemistry) or one in the Materials Engineering Department (Introduction to Solid State Chemistry). I chose the latter since it sounded less messy.

Also, no lab!

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Posted - 09/07/2002 :  04:26:30 AM  Show Profile  Visit pcbTIM's Homepage  Send pcbTIM an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I've heard Orgamic Chemistry is a real bitch. Thank God I'm not taking that class! But what is Solid State Chemistry? It sounds like a fancy name for Chem 100.

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Posted - 10/26/2002 :  2:14:00 PM  Show Profile  Send enthuTIMsiast an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Yes, Organic Chemistry is a bitch. I took it and it was hard, and my girl is in it now and it's giving her hell. I don't know what Solid State Chem is, but it sounds even harder to me. Biochemistry (next step up from OChem) was tough too...

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Posted - 10/26/2002 :  9:22:17 PM  Show Profile  Visit pcbTIM's Homepage  Send pcbTIM an AOL message  Reply with Quote
*shudder*

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Posted - 10/26/2002 :  9:31:14 PM  Show Profile  Send enthuTIMsiast an AOL message  Reply with Quote
*shudder* <- at calculus

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Posted - 10/26/2002 :  9:34:19 PM  Show Profile  Visit pcbTIM's Homepage  Send pcbTIM an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Then you definitely don't want to be in my postition right now. I have a calc test on Thursday. It's primarily on partial derivatives.

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Posted - 10/26/2002 :  9:45:18 PM  Show Profile  Send enthuTIMsiast an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Yep, I do not want to be in your position right now. Although if I was, I'm sure I would enjoy playing the guitar like you can. Everything would have it's advantages, I guess.

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Posted - 10/26/2002 :  9:50:50 PM  Show Profile  Visit pcbTIM's Homepage  Send pcbTIM an AOL message  Reply with Quote
No.....you wouldn't want to be in my position......really.

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Posted - 10/26/2002 :  10:02:07 PM  Show Profile  Send enthuTIMsiast an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Well you're better at guitar than me. But you're right, I wouldn't. I like where I am just fine.

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Posted - 10/28/2002 :  04:58:58 AM  Show Profile  Send Fluffy an AOL message  Reply with Quote
This topic has come up before:

http://www.timreynolds.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=753

And all I have to say is:
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Posted - 12/10/2001 : 5:11:40 PM
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calcuTHEM NOT calculUS

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Posted - 10/28/2002 :  05:46:47 AM  Show Profile  Visit pcbTIM's Homepage  Send pcbTIM an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Dammit! Studied for at least 5 hours today.......and I'm not making very much headway.

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Posted - 10/28/2002 :  06:28:36 AM  Show Profile  Send Fluffy an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Give up!!! Calcul is not for US, Calcu is for THEM. Hence, CalcuTHEM not CalculUS

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Booo calculus. Then again, boo corporate finance too. Anyone else have to take that?

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