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| Erich |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 3:32:17 PM
Aborted Baby?
This is tuly the definition of DMB. that is, if DMB were defined by a minimalistic metronome approach to drumming, a looped plucking sound which accounts for all the "violin" in the song, no sax until someone wake roi up at the end of the tune, lackluster lyrics with a shit chorus, and a semi decent baseline.
After hearing what theyre capable of last summer (Sugar Will, Good Time, Joy Ride, HELLO AGAIN, Crazy Easy...), even if you didnt like those tunes as much as I did theres no refuting the fact that they were lightyears ahead of this steamer. And thats so sad. Im praying the album is different, but IDI was a pretty good indication of Eday.
Oh well. |
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| {=HTG=} |
Posted - 03/21/2005 : 02:02:31 AM
quote:
Originally posted by KevinLesko
Man, I got the new Live Trax, and I think it may be the last live show of theirs that I buy, unless of course it features Tim. I listened to it straight through and found nothing very impressive. I really hope that the next volume of this Live Trax series is a D+T show.
Its my favorite one. That Seek Up, into Rapunzel is amazing. |
| KevinLesko |
Posted - 03/21/2005 : 02:01:35 AM
Man, I got the new Live Trax, and I think it may be the last live show of theirs that I buy, unless of course it features Tim. I listened to it straight through and found nothing very impressive. I really hope that the next volume of this Live Trax series is a D+T show. |
| Muskrat |
Posted - 03/19/2005 : 10:54:27 PM
Ordering it soon, when I get my paycheck heh |
| skyline |
Posted - 03/18/2005 : 08:05:38 AM
quote:
Originally posted by {=HTG=}
DMB fans : Did anyone who ordered Live Trax III get there copies in yet? I got mine today, and I have to say its easily the best sounding of the three mixes. The entire band sounds great, especially Stefan. That 'rapunzel' is fast becomming one of my new favorites.
I have yet to order any of the live series. Something about it rubs me the wrong way. I guess since I have a pretty extensive collection of DMB shows already, that it loses some of it's appeal. |
| {=HTG=} |
Posted - 03/18/2005 : 01:59:50 AM
DMB fans : Did anyone who ordered Live Trax III get there copies in yet? I got mine today, and I have to say its easily the best sounding of the three mixes. The entire band sounds great, especially Stefan. That 'rapunzel' is fast becomming one of my new favorites. |
| skyline |
Posted - 03/17/2005 : 08:44:12 AM
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Originally posted by Muskrat
quote:
Originally posted by Muskrat
I just heard the AOL version and I liked it... glad to hear there's a better, full version though. How is that mp3 version available though? I mean, you can't even get a preview on the band's official site, just a link to the AOL first listen thing.
I repeat my question^
Well, the same way the Lillywhites leaked our or the same way Busted Stuff was available long before it's release.
I know the song is scheduled to get radio air play starting on Friday, so my guess is that a radio station person leaked it out... |
| Muskrat |
Posted - 03/16/2005 : 10:31:14 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Muskrat
I just heard the AOL version and I liked it... glad to hear there's a better, full version though. How is that mp3 version available though? I mean, you can't even get a preview on the band's official site, just a link to the AOL first listen thing.
I repeat my question^ |
| GuitarGuy305 |
Posted - 03/16/2005 : 09:33:06 AM
quote:
Originally posted by skyline
And you know...I'm not sure it's Dave that's past his peak. I really liked Some Devil, and the songs they played this summer, which I think were written by him.
The things that have gone wrong, to me, are the things he has collaborated on. For example, Everyday has Glen Ballard written all over it. He was part of the writing process, and it shows.
On this album, the band wrote it collectively. I love the band, but I don't care for their music as individuals...I don't want Stefan writing songs, because I generally can't stand the type of music he listens to. I also didn't enjoy Boyd's solo cd all that much. Apparently, all the songs on this album are going to be credited as written by the entire band. I'd love to see them go back to letting Dave handle all the writing responsibilities...
Then again, I could be way off...I tend to do that sometimes.
I totally agree with this. Back in the day, Dave had already written so many songs. Almost everything that was on Remember Two Things, UTTAD and Crash were songs that he wrote by himself, and then were arranged for the band. I believe BTCS had more of a "going into the studio with nothing" approach, where a lot was done in studio, but I still think a lot of the creativity came from Dave's side. I mean, look at the Stone, Boyd did not write that...
This whole thing reminds me of Creedence Clearwater Revival. John Fogerty used to write, arrange, and play everything on the records they recorded. The band got pissed because they were feeling like nothing more than studio musicians following Fogerty out on the road. John agreed to make the band more a democracy, with each memeber having a hand in songwriting. The first single they released that was written that way was the first single they had that did NOT go to #1.
If you have something that works, fucking stick with that.
I'm all for all members of the band collaborating more, but as you said, a lot of DMB fans do not have the same taste in music as Stefan, and Boyd's solo album was very bad IMHO, except for True Reflections, which is better on any live recording of the DMB.
I still have hope for "Stand Up", which still makes me think of that Ludacris song each time I hear the album title. Every album has it's high points and low points. On BTCS, Stay was my least favorite song, and still is. Perhaps on Stand Up, it will be American Baby. I hold out hope that the studio versions of some of the road tested songs make it on the album and are very good. Then again, they could have had Carter sit the rest of the album out and just use a beat box for all the rhythms....
One thing I am looking forward to is the bonus stuff you get for pre ordering through the Warehouse. A couple of B sides from Stand Up, which I'm hoping are finished studio songs that simply didn't make the album, and 4 live songs from the 2004 summer tour. If the bonus stuff is good, and the album has 50% good material on it, I'll be happy.
I'm also eagerly awaiting live trax vol. 3, should be here any day now. |
| skyline |
Posted - 03/16/2005 : 08:06:05 AM
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Originally posted by Silky The Pimp
It's funny, if you take a step back and look at why we all post here, and then notice how everyone here has conspicuously started to like DMB's material progressively less and less since after the Before These Crowded Streets album.
Regardless of whether you think this song is stellar or not, it just proves that even Dave's worst material is better than 99% of the crap that's currently out there. He's an extraordinarily talented guy, even if he's past his peak.
And you know...I'm not sure it's Dave that's past his peak. I really liked Some Devil, and the songs they played this summer, which I think were written by him.
The things that have gone wrong, to me, are the things he has collaborated on. For example, Everyday has Glen Ballard written all over it. He was part of the writing process, and it shows.
On this album, the band wrote it collectively. I love the band, but I don't care for their music as individuals...I don't want Stefan writing songs, because I generally can't stand the type of music he listens to. I also didn't enjoy Boyd's solo cd all that much. Apparently, all the songs on this album are going to be credited as written by the entire band. I'd love to see them go back to letting Dave handle all the writing responsibilities...
Then again, I could be way off...I tend to do that sometimes. |
| Silky The Pimp |
Posted - 03/16/2005 : 01:13:50 AM
It's funny, if you take a step back and look at why we all post here, and then notice how everyone here has conspicuously started to like DMB's material progressively less and less since after the Before These Crowded Streets album.
Regardless of whether you think this song is stellar or not, it just proves that even Dave's worst material is better than 99% of the crap that's currently out there. He's an extraordinarily talented guy, even if he's past his peak. |
| Jimiforrest |
Posted - 03/16/2005 : 12:01:00 AM
I'll reserve my opinion for after I hear it live.
To their record label, a DMB studio album is just another way for them to market more shit to a 20-45 year old demographic. Their hit single might get air time on more conservative radio shows that are pretty popular, but most of their air time will be for radio shows that will air Duran Duran in the same rotation.
They also get to retain some of that  dance music factor to attract college kids who have been long-time fans of smoking weed at their concerts (a la am.org) but a radio single is not designed to hit the same audience as those who obsess over their live stuff. Because usually those are the most diehard, and obviously the labels don't need to worry about them because everybody is obviously listening. |
| Muskrat |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 11:08:52 PM
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Originally posted by Jiyra
and let me just add, I really like the cover art, it's simple and cool
Hehe I agree, and in my favorite colors. It's like the frozen fire dancer or something. |
| Muskrat |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 11:05:18 PM
I just heard the AOL version and I liked it... glad to hear there's a better, full version though. How is that mp3 version available though? I mean, you can't even get a preview on the band's official site, just a link to the AOL first listen thing. Can't wait to hear the rest of the album. I haven't heard ANY of the new songs yet, although I'll get a few when my Live Trax v.2 comes in the mail aaaaannnnnyyyyy day now. |
| skyline |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 10:05:30 PM
quote:
Originally posted by PJK
Just listened to it, not impressed. I don't hate it, but don't really care to hear it again either. Dave kept that same "grave digger" voice and it just seems that instead of going forward with their music they are stepping back. Honestly I think DMB reached their pinnacle years ago. I'm not saying that their music now is crap, but I don't see the growth. I am kind of disappointed because from the videos of the making of the new album, their approach this time seemed exciting. Maybe it isn't the song but my expectations that are off the mark, I don't know.
BTCS is definitely their peak as of now...
I'm still hopeful for this album, though...i didn't like the song after the first listen either, but it does grow on you, and I love the last minute or so of it...
At least they're going in a somewhat new direction. Anything is better than the kind of stalemate they've been in the past few years. |
| PJK |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 9:21:50 PM
Just listened to it, not impressed. I don't hate it, but don't really care to hear it again either. Dave kept that same "grave digger" voice and it just seems that instead of going forward with their music they are stepping back. Honestly I think DMB reached their pinnacle years ago. I'm not saying that their music now is crap, but I don't see the growth. I am kind of disappointed because from the videos of the making of the new album, their approach this time seemed exciting. Maybe it isn't the song but my expectations that are off the mark, I don't know. |
| skyline |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 6:36:58 PM
quote:
Originally posted by enthuTIMsiast
wait.
is that the MIDI version?
It's the mp3 album version.
It doesn't have the annoying AOL guy on it, thank goodness... |
| enthuTIMsiast |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 6:32:20 PM
wait.
is that the MIDI version? |
| enthuTIMsiast |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 6:28:15 PM
ah, thanks man. |
| skyline |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 6:14:47 PM
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Originally posted by enthuTIMsiast
haven't heard it, any suggestions where I might?
http://s20.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0797LF6NH477Y1SL7SOM95DND4
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| enthuTIMsiast |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 6:09:35 PM
haven't heard it, any suggestions where I might? |
| Jiyra |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 5:50:30 PM
and let me just add, I really like the cover art, it's simple and cool |
| GuitarGuy305 |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 5:24:40 PM
The full album version is better. The end is kind of jammed out. That AOL version blows goat. |
| dan p. |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 5:21:35 PM
i thought it was actually called "aborted baby." i've not heard it and i'm already disappointed. |
| Jiyra |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 5:14:52 PM
it's not bad, y'all are right, and I'm definitely looking forward to the new album, although I prefer their live releases; but the newER version on aol it's alot better right there at the end, I just wonder what it sounds like live without the chorus of bari's in the background of the jam. |
| skyline |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 4:56:28 PM
It's not bad. As a bid DMB person, I'm just glad to hear something different. I can't wait to hear what Hello Again sounds like... |
| {=HTG=} |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 4:42:21 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Erich
they cut out the best part of the song from the album version. I just heard it. I cant say the song is as bad as i first thought now.
That was my exact reaction. I first though, 'eh.' Then I got to listen to the fuller version, and completely reversed my opinion. |
| Erich |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 4:38:12 PM
they cut out the best part of the song from the album version. I just heard it. I cant say the song is as bad as i first thought now. |
| {=HTG=} |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 4:37:54 PM
Different strokes I suppose. But I just burned this onto a CD and it sounds a hundred times better than over this lap-top. I'll agree though, the bands true talents dont really shine up untill the end jam. |
| Erich |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 4:27:02 PM
the song couldve been so much better. more sax, actual violin, more carter, etc. Instead, its so stripped down that its uncharictaristic, and its just so dissapointing. |
| {=HTG=} |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 3:54:14 PM
Oh yeah, if anyone wants to hear it, head over to aol.com, and find the 'music' link. It should be on the front page, 'DMB, first listen.' |
| {=HTG=} |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 3:52:42 PM
'American Baby'
Wow, you really dont like it. Its been growing on me ever since I downloaded an mp3 from amidreaming.org. Its got me excited for the new cd. Hell, DMB hasnt put out anything new since eday. |
| Hopeful Rolling Waves |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 3:49:33 PM
It's yet to be seen I guess. I don't think the whole album will blow ass. |
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