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| therippa |
Posted - 07/12/2004 : 6:04:46 PM
Congress is about to vote on amending the U.S. Constitution to deny marriage equality to same-sex couples.
Never before has our Constitution been amended to take away anyone's rights. Yet our Senators will vote on this amendment in the next 48 hours.
It's urgent that we speak up now. This hateful divisiveness has no place in America. Please join me in saying so, at:
http://www.moveon.org/unitednotdivided/
Equality in marriage is the civil rights issue of our generation. We can't let anyone, or any group, be singled out for discrimination based on who they are or who they love.
Thank you. |
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| tericee |
Posted - 07/15/2004 : 5:39:29 PM
I'd say vote third party (Libertarian is interesting, as I said in another thread, but just a suggestion) just to help them get a percentage point. The media will never notice the third parties unless they get enough votes. |
| CPPJames |
Posted - 07/15/2004 : 11:24:30 AM
quote:
Originally posted by tericee
Interesting... Did they not vote because they're out on the road campaigning or because they don't want to turn off any potential voters?
Because they're candy asses who never state their own political agenda and are running entirely on a campaign attacking the current president, and not on their own merit? I watch the news almost every night and I have yet to hear something that Kerry has said where he actually took a stand on any particular issue other than "we can't possible have four more years of that guy!". I wonder if all of the people that vote for Kerry out of dislike for George Bush and not because they actually support Kerry will be singing the same tune if/after Kerry is elected.
For the record, I will not be voting. I don't trust Kerry as far as I can throw him and can't find out how he stands on any given issue...and Bush has made his share of mistakes. Traditionally I'd vote Republican, all things considered equal. Not this time. |
| therippa |
Posted - 07/15/2004 : 11:13:33 AM
quote:
Originally posted by tericee
quote:
Originally posted by therippa
Motion to Invoke Cloture; Federal Marriage Amendment
On the Cloture Motion
07/14/2004
Senate Roll Call No. 155
108th Congress, 2nd Session
Roll Call Vote No. 155 Tally
Not Voting : 2 Members
John Kerry (D-MA)
John Edwards (D-NC)
Interesting... Did they not vote because they're out on the road campaigning or because they don't want to turn off any potential voters?
I imagine both. |
| tericee |
Posted - 07/15/2004 : 08:59:23 AM
quote:
Originally posted by therippa
Motion to Invoke Cloture; Federal Marriage Amendment
On the Cloture Motion
07/14/2004
Senate Roll Call No. 155
108th Congress, 2nd Session
Roll Call Vote No. 155 Tally
Not Voting : 2 Members
John Kerry (D-MA)
John Edwards (D-NC)
Interesting... Did they not vote because they're out on the road campaigning or because they don't want to turn off any potential voters? |
| therippa |
Posted - 07/14/2004 : 6:40:45 PM
Motion to Invoke Cloture; Federal Marriage Amendment
On the Cloture Motion
07/14/2004
Senate Roll Call No. 155
108th Congress, 2nd Session
Roll Call Vote No. 155 Tally
Yea : 48 Members
Lisa Murkowski (R-AK)
Ted Stevens (R-AK)
Jeff Sessions (R-AL)
Richard Shelby (R-AL)
Jon Kyl (R-AZ)
Wayne Allard (R-CO)
Saxby Chambliss (R-GA)
Zell Miller (D-GA)
Charles Grassley (R-IA)
Larry Craig (R-ID)
Mike Crapo (R-ID)
Peter Fitzgerald (R-IL)
Richard Lugar (R-IN)
Sam Brownback (R-KS)
Pat Roberts (R-KS)
Jim Bunning (R-KY)
Mitch McConnell (R-KY)
Norm Coleman (R-MN)
Christopher Bond (R-MO)
Jim Talent (R-MO)
Thad Cochran (R-MS)
Trent Lott (R-MS)
Conrad Burns (R-MT)
Elizabeth Dole (R-NC)
Chuck Hagel (R-NE)
Ben Nelson (D-NE)
Judd Gregg (R-NH)
Pete Domenici (R-NM)
John Ensign (R-NV)
Mike DeWine (R-OH)
George Voinovich (R-OH)
James Inhofe (R-OK)
Don Nickles (R-OK)
Gordon Smith (R-OR)
Rick Santorum (R-PA)
Arlen Specter (R-PA)
Lindsey Graham (R-SC)
Lamar Alexander (R-TN)
Bill Frist (R-TN)
John Cornyn (R-TX)
Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX)
Robert Bennett (R-UT)
Orrin Hatch (R-UT)
George Allen (R-VA)
John Warner (R-VA)
Robert Byrd (D-WV)
Michael Enzi (R-WY)
Craig Thomas (R-WY)
Nay : 50 Members
Blanche Lincoln (D-AR)
Mark Pryor (D-AR)
John McCain (R-AZ)
Barbara Boxer (D-CA)
Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)
Ben Nighthorse Campbell (R-CO)
Christopher Dodd (D-CT)
Joseph Lieberman (D-CT)
Joseph Biden (D-DE)
Thomas Carper (D-DE)
Bob Graham (D-FL)
Bill Nelson (D-FL)
Daniel Akaka (D-HI)
Daniel Inouye (D-HI)
Tom Harkin (D-IA)
Richard Durbin (D-IL)
Evan Bayh (D-IN)
John Breaux (D-LA)
Mary Landrieu (D-LA)
Edward Kennedy (D-MA)
Barbara Mikulski (D-MD)
Paul Sarbanes (D-MD)
Susan Collins(R-ME)
Olympia Snowe (R-ME)
Carl Levin (D-MI)
Debbie Stabenow (D-MI)
Mark Dayton (D-MN)
Max Baucus (D-MT)
Kent Conrad (D-ND)
Byron Dorgan (D-ND)
John Sununu (R-NH)
Jon Corzine (D-NJ)
Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Jeff Bingaman (D-NM)
Harry Reid (D-NV)
Hillary Clinton (D-NY)
Charles Schumer (D-NY)
Ron Wyden (D-OR)
Lincoln Chafee (R-RI)
Jack Reed (D-RI)
Ernest Hollings (D-SC)
Thomas Daschle (D-SD)
Tim Johnson (D-SD)
James Jeffords (I-VT)
Patrick Leahy (D-VT)
Maria Cantwell (D-WA)
Patty Murray (D-WA)
Russ Feingold (D-WI)
Herbert Kohl (D-WI)
John Rockefeller (D-WV)
Not Voting : 2 Members
John Kerry (D-MA)
John Edwards (D-NC)
Looks like McCain gets another bonus point in my book |
| Zachmozach |
Posted - 07/12/2004 : 11:42:04 PM
Thanks for sharing that man. Oteil had some really interesting things to say about the whole subject. Man it's always great to see what kind of people these musicians are I like especially when they are as cool as Oteil. Not to mention what a cool guy Tim is. |
| victorwootenfan |
Posted - 07/12/2004 : 10:51:51 PM
here's what musician oteil burbridge has to say about same-sex marriage...it's a good read!
http://www.oteilburbridge.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=XForum&file=viewthread&tid=183 |
| PJK |
Posted - 07/12/2004 : 7:56:03 PM
quote:
Equality in marriage is the civil rights issue of our generation. We can't let anyone, or any group, be singled out for discrimination based on who they are or who they love.
I couldn't agree more. I never could understand why people put so much effort into fighting something grounded in love? |
| guitarted |
Posted - 07/12/2004 : 7:06:06 PM
mar·riage ( P ) Pronunciation Key (mrj)
n.
The legal union of a man and woman as husband and wife.
The state of being married; wedlock.
1. A common-law marriage.
2. A union between two persons having the customary but usually not the legal force of marriage: a same-sex marriage.
3. A wedding.
4. A close union: “the most successful marriage of beauty and blood in mainstream comics” (Lloyd Rose).
Games. The combination of the king and queen of the same suit, as in pinochle.
its interesting, this definition (#2) would not have been in the dictionary not that long ago
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