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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
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 Posted - 10/09/2009 : 12:27:04 PM
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| Alright, I'm dying to hear the reactions. Dave, watcha got? |
Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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rubylith
Fluffy-Esque
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Posted - 10/09/2009 : 6:24:01 PM
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Ugh it's a shame...but I'm not totally surprised, Henry Kissinger won it as well. It was a nice PR failure, just like the doctors in white coats the other day. Within hours after it was announced, people were making all kinds of parodies because of how ridiculous it is. I am surprised, I thought people would think he brought the troops home or something, however, it seem to have backfired. Everyone has called him on his shit, even he himself said he was "surprised" by the decision. I am just glad that most people realized that he has NOT done anything in the name of peace. I thought it would have fooled more than 5 people. The guy only speaks using a teleprompter and he orders unmanned drone attacks in Pakistan...how the FUCK is that peaceful?
Anyway...
I think Paul Craig Roberts summed it up most elegantly...
Upside Down World
Warmonger Wins Peace Prize
By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS
It took 25 years longer than George Orwell thought for the slogans of 1984 to become reality.
“War is Peace,” “Freedom is Slavery,” “Ignorance is Strength.”
I would add, “Lie is Truth.”
The Nobel Committee has awarded the 2009 Peace Prize to President Obama, the person who started a new war in Pakistan, upped the war in Afghanistan, and continues to threaten Iran with attack unless Iran does what the US government demands and relinquishes its rights as a signatory to the non-proliferation treaty.
The Nobel committee chairman, Thorbjoern Jagland said, “Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world’s attention and given its people hope for a better future.”
Obama, the committee gushed, has created “a new climate in international politics.”
Tell that to the 2 million displaced Pakistanis and the unknown numbers of dead ones that Obama has racked up in his few months in office. Tell that to the Afghans where civilian deaths continue to mount as Obama’s “war of necessity” drones on indeterminably.
No Bush policy has changed. Iraq is still occupied. The Guantanamo torture prison is still functioning. Rendition and assassinations are still occurring. Spying on Americans without warrants is still the order of the day. Civil liberties are continuing to be violated in the name of Oceania’s “war on terror.”
Apparently, the Nobel committee is suffering from the delusion that, being a minority, Obama is going to put a stop to Western hegemony over darker-skinned peoples.
The non-cynical can say that the Nobel committee is seizing on Obama’s rhetoric to lock him into the pursuit of peace instead of war. We can all hope that it works. But the more likely result is that the award has made “War is Peace” the reality.
Obama has done nothing to hold the criminal Bush regime to account, and the Obama administration has bribed and threatened the Palestinian Authority to go along with the US/Israeli plan to deep-six the UN’s Goldstone Report on Israeli war crimes committed during Israel’s inhuman military attack on the defenseless civilian population in the Gaza Ghetto.
The US Ministry of Truth is delivering the Obama administration’s propaganda that Iran only notified the IAEA of its “secret” new nuclear facility because Iran discovered that US intelligence had discovered the “secret” facility. This propaganda is designed to undercut the fact of Iran’s compliance with the Safeguards Agreement and to continue the momentum for a military attack on Iran.
The Nobel committee has placed all its hopes on a bit of skin color.
“War is Peace” is now the position of the formerly antiwar organization, Code Pink.
Code Pink has decided that women’s rights are worth a war in Afghanistan.
When justifications for war become almost endless--oil, hegemony, women’s rights, democracy, revenge for 9/11, denying bases to al Qaeda and protecting against terrorists--war becomes the path to peace.
The Nobel committee has bestowed the prestige of its Peace Prize on Newspeak and Doublethink.
Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration. He is coauthor of The Tyranny of Good Intentions.He can be reached at: PaulCraigRoberts@yahoo.com |
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Hopeful Rolling Waves
Alien Abductee
South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 10/10/2009 : 6:16:53 PM
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| Yeah, giving a wartime President who's been in office for 8 months and essentially done nothing for world diplomacy which the award givers espoused is pretty irresponsible. Any other candidate deserved it more. This is bullshit. |
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gnome44
Yak Addict
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Posted - 10/10/2009 : 6:39:52 PM
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| Frankly, who really gives a damn about the Nobel Prize? It's been a joke for a long, long time anyway. |
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GuitarGuy305
Alien Abductee
USA
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Posted - 10/10/2009 : 11:17:05 PM
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Originally posted by gnome44
Frankly, who really gives a damn about the Nobel Prize? It's been a joke for a long, long time anyway.
It is a joke, but unfortunately the average person doesn't think it is and thinks it is bestowed upon great people. This was posted on Facebook by one of my friends today:
Hats of to you Barack for winning the Nobel Peace Prize!! So many cynics in this world and yet you rise above. No matter what anyone says glad to have you and not GEORGE W BUSH!!! No matter what good you do there will be those out there that say &quo...t;he isn't good enough" good job keeping my hope burning ;)
I started adding a comment, but I'd rather not get into it with her. I tried educating a few other friends when they posted things about getting flu shots and my comments were ignored. The same people that believe the prize actually means something also believe that Obama is still the savior and that he has and will do great things, making him worthy of such a prize. People just don't want to be unplugged from the matrix... |
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rubylith
Fluffy-Esque
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Posted - 10/11/2009 : 04:26:16 AM
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CLASSIC! "KEEP MY HOPE BURNING ;"
With the SMILEY FACE! hahahaha amazing. That is exactly what is was meant to do. |
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rubylith
Fluffy-Esque
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JoeGamo05
Chatterbox
USA
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Posted - 10/15/2009 : 02:01:48 AM
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| i'll be shocked if there is ever someone you will support lol :P |
When the trees start walking, the ground starts moving, your insane, your insane |
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
4845 Posts |
Posted - 10/15/2009 : 07:30:50 AM
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| I think the people he has been the most supportive of are those who are the most transparent, e.g. Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich. |
Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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rubylith
Fluffy-Esque
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Posted - 10/15/2009 : 3:14:50 PM
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| I support anyone who is anti war. Unfortunately the media makes the anti-war crowd seem like the "crazies" but really it is the ignorance of the sheeple and the cynicism of the elite that is truly...CRAZY. |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
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Posted - 10/19/2009 : 02:20:46 AM
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it's been a long, long time since i've heard the word "sheeple" used in any non-ironic sense.
the only real crazies are the ones which either sang his praises immediately or started hating him immediately. i used the word crazies, and i don't back down from it. loving the shit out of a leader and hating the shit out of him without giving him enough to do anything effective isn't rational. you can be rational, or you can be crazy.
that said, barack's presidency is has been entirely foreseeable to anyone who didn't get caught up in the obama or anti-obama hype. he's compromising and moderate because hardline, far left or right political philosophies ultimately are unworkable in the real world.
also, barak obama didn't do anything to deserve a nobel peace prize. |
death to false metal. |
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rubylith
Fluffy-Esque
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Posted - 10/19/2009 : 6:38:27 PM
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For the record, I didn't like him before he became President for one solid reason...he supported the FISA bill. That AND he said he would keep troops in Afghanistan.
I didn't like him because he smelt like dried blood from the very beginning, not because I was whipped into a phony frenzy by Fox News.
EDIT: Just for the record...cause..well...this sucks, doughnut?!
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