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EADGC
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Posted - 01/04/2009 :  2:07:19 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm new to Tim Reynolds but I've been studying the techniques and elements of classical guitar for a minute. I was recommended to tap into Tim Reynolds due to his shredding with tremolo picking.


so me being a virtual newcomer to him, I was wondering what songs, videos and live performances are of his best pick-less tremolo performances.

thanks in advance.

gnome44
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Posted - 01/05/2009 :  09:41:35 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tim's solo on "Lie in Our Graves" from the Live at Radio City Music Hall recording immediately comes to mind.

It's not particularly fast or technical...but it's the longest example of tremolo picking that I think he's done!

3:08 to 5:51.

HAHA!
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Hopeful Rolling Waves
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Posted - 01/05/2009 :  12:26:35 PM  Show Profile  Send Hopeful Rolling Waves an AOL message  Reply with Quote
The one note solo!

He wanted pick-less though...

Check out his performance of 'As Far As We Can See' here for some good right hand technique:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hd7rUBTosg

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gnome44
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Posted - 01/05/2009 :  1:23:45 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh...that's what pick-less means?

I'm a moron.

I'll try to think of other pick-less tremolo picking tunes...
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Arthen
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Posted - 01/06/2009 :  1:14:49 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The end of "Los Alamos is Burning" is rife with pickless tremolo. Track #4 starting right about 2:30 - 2:45:

http://www.archive.org/details/tr2000-11-16.flac16

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Ranting Thespian
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Posted - 01/08/2009 :  04:26:30 AM  Show Profile  Send Ranting Thespian an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I've always thought tremolo is an effect of the volume going up and down. Are you sure you guys are not talking about vibrato?

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Nick
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dancheatham
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Posted - 01/08/2009 :  06:08:53 AM  Show Profile  Visit dancheatham's Homepage  Send dancheatham an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ranting Thespian

I've always thought tremolo is an effect of the volume going up and down. Are you sure you guys are not talking about vibrato?


You're right, but tremolo picking is something different.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tremolo_picking

Daniel Cheatham
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Kevin
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Posted - 01/09/2009 :  12:52:49 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ranting Thespian

I've always thought tremolo is an effect of the volume going up and down. Are you sure you guys are not talking about vibrato?


Vibrato is pitch going up and down, btw ;)

I don't think what Tim does is "true" tremolo picking. I'm relatively sure classical players do something like this:

  i m a i m a i m a i m a i 
--8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8---
--------------4---------------
--------5-----------5---------
--6-----------------------6---
------------------------------
------------------------------

...the letters up top are the fingers used to pluck the tremolo'd note, where "i" is index finger, "m" is middle finger, and "a" is ring finger... while the arpeggio is plucked with your thumb. I'm not trained in classical guitar, but this is what I believe guys like John Williams and Segovia do. I'm pretty sure Tim just alternates "thumb-index-middle," like this:

----8-8---8-8---8-8---8-8-----
--------------4---------------
--------5-----------5---------
--6-----------------------6---
------------------------------
------------------------------


Like I said, I'm not a scholar with this stuff, so I may be wrong. But probably not
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Kevin
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Posted - 01/09/2009 :  12:54:46 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Arthen

The end of "Los Alamos is Burning" is rife with pickless tremolo. Track #4 starting right about 2:30 - 2:45:

http://www.archive.org/details/tr2000-11-16.flac16


Sorry for the double post, but I just got done listening to the jam after "Los Alamos is Burning" ... did I hear "Away In A Manger" ?
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Ranting Thespian
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Posted - 01/09/2009 :  06:32:30 AM  Show Profile  Send Ranting Thespian an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dancheatham

You're right, but tremolo picking is something different.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tremolo_picking



Oh, ok.

Not communicating can hurt more than any word that can be said -

Nick
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AGirlNamedPsycho
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Posted - 01/23/2009 :  6:08:28 PM  Show Profile  Visit AGirlNamedPsycho's Homepage  Send AGirlNamedPsycho an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Actually, classical players really tend to only add another note to the pattern. The typical exercise is something like this:

e:---1-1-1---1-1-1---1-1-1---1-1-1-|---1-1-1---1-1-1-
B:---------------------------------|-3---------------
G:-------------------------2-------|---------2-------
D:-----------------3---------------|----------------- etc
A:---------3-----------------------|----------------- etc
E:-1-------------------------------|-----------------

And you basically alternate between an 'open E' barre chord and an 'open C' barre chord and then move the whole thing up one half step, wash rinse repeat.

But yeah so far as I'm aware it's not a popular technique to hit both the bass and the tremolo note at the same time, you just work it up fast enough such that it sounds simultaneous.

And yeah it's sort of cheating if you only do thumb-index-middle, sometimes I am guilty of this :( but I say if it works for TR I can steal it haha.
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Kevin
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Posted - 01/23/2009 :  9:46:48 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the correction!
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