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rubylith
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Posted - 10/09/2007 :  1:10:11 PM  Show Profile  Visit rubylith's Homepage  Reply with Quote
For you Jared...

"Possessing" Information Can Now Brand You A Terrorist
YOUR NEW REALITY
Monday October 08, 2007

The Anarchists' Cookbook, like the many widely available CIA sabotage manuals (an illustrated version was distributed to civilians in Nicaragua during the 1980s), contains recipes for making explosives. The book has been out of mainstream circulation for years. But in the UK, a 17 year was caught with a copy of the Anarchists' Cookbook in his possession. He's now been charged as a terrorist.

The boy wasn't charged with attempting to carry out an act of terrorism, or even plotting an act of terrorism. He was charged because he had a book. Obviously the wrong book. But a book, all the same.

Philip K Dick's concept of pre-crime - arresting someone before they even attempt to break the law - is now a rock solid reality in the UK, the US and Australia, thanks to the vaguely defined sprawl of anti-terror laws.
Good thing the 'War on Terror' has managed to preserve so many of our rights to free speech and free expression, otherwise it might look like the terrorists are winning by changing the undermining the foundations of our free societies.

Presumably World War I and World War 2 memoirs and histories, where veterans recount how they fashioned makeshift bombs from scratch to blow up train lines or to take out tanks, will be the next books to make you a criminal for simply owning them.

They don't need to burn books this time around, they just arrest you for reading them instead.

From BBC :

A British teenager who is accused of possessing material for terrorist purposes has appeared in court.

It is alleged he had a copy of the "Anarchists' Cookbook", containing instructions on how to make home-made explosives. The teenager faces two charges under the Terrorism Act 2000. The first charge relates to the possession of material for terrorist purposes in October last year. The second relates to the collection or possession of information useful in the preparation of an act of terrorism.
Read that line again : "possession of information useful in the preparation of an act of terrorism."

Like a Rambo movie? Like a book about the Irgun, the Jewish terrorists who massacred hundreds in Palestine in the late 1930s and 1940s? Like the classic Australian Henry Lawson short story, the Loaded Dog, which explains in great detail how to make a bomb powerful enough to kill dozens?

The UK law under which the 17 year old has been charged doesn't even specify explosives, books or manuals. Merely information.

Possession of information with which you could prepare for, but not necessarily plan, an act of terrorism is a crime in the UK. That may well mean you don't even need to have the information in book or paper or DVD form. You can possess information simply by storing it in the memory banks of your head.

But who determines what information is safe and which is dangerous to possess? Does the public get a say in the setting of parameters for 'dangerous' information?

Pre-crime and thought crimes. These things which Philip K Dick wrote about as science fiction only a few decades ago are now reality.

Don't you feel safer already?




dan p.
Alien Abductee

Uganda
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Posted - 10/09/2007 :  4:29:57 PM  Show Profile  Send dan p. an AOL message  Reply with Quote
i feel good about this, because i hate rebellious high schoolers with their anarchy patches sewed on to their backpacks, their fake metal bands like marylin manson and slipknot, and that ridiculous fucking book. the worst part is, no one with that books has the balls to make a bomb and blow something up. they just do it to make them seem dangerous and edgy. they were all over the place when i was in high school. well to do suburban whites kids posturing and trying to act tough and different. don't throw them in jail. throw them in a fucking ditch.

death to false metal.
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rubylith
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Posted - 10/09/2007 :  4:41:16 PM  Show Profile  Visit rubylith's Homepage  Reply with Quote
HHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAA

I agree 100%...except the ditch part...throw them in a music store, have them buy better cds.
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Arthen
Alien Abductee

USA
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Posted - 10/09/2007 :  4:47:00 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ah, I see it now. Musical based genocide.

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dan p.
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Uganda
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Posted - 10/09/2007 :  5:43:25 PM  Show Profile  Send dan p. an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Arthen

Ah, I see it now. Musical based genocide.



that'd be so metal.

death to false metal.
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