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PJK
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USA
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Posted - 05/09/2007 :  4:13:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My son forwarded me this article from Rolling Stone about E. Howard Hunt. Very Interesting! Enjoy.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/13893143/the_last_confessions_of_e_howard_hunt/1

"It is hard enough to remember my opinions, without also remembering my reasons for them!"Friedrich Nietzsche

rubylith
Fluffy-Esque

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Posted - 05/09/2007 :  4:43:12 PM  Show Profile  Visit rubylith's Homepage  Reply with Quote
JFK Murder Plot "Deathbed Confession" Aired On National Radio
Former CIA agent, Watergate conspirator E. Howard Hunt names the men who killed Kennedy

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Monday, April 30, 2007

The "deathbed confession" audio tape in which former CIA agent and Watergate conspirator E. Howard Hunt admits he was approached to be part of a CIA assassination team to kill JFK was aired this weekend - an astounding development that has gone completely ignored by the establishment media.

Saint John Hunt, son of E. Howard Hunt, appeared on the nationally syndicated Coast to Coast Live radio show on Saturday night to discuss the revelations contained in the tape.

Hunt said that his father had mailed cassette the tape to him alone in January 2004 and asked that it be released after his death. The tape was originally 20 minutes long but was edited down to four and a half minutes for the Coast to Coast broadcast. Hunt promises that the whole tape will be uploaded soon at his website.

Click here to listen to a clip of the tape.

E. Howard Hunt names numerous individuals with both direct and indirect CIA connections as having played a role in the assassination of Kennedy, while describing himself as a "bench warmer" in the plot. Saint John Hunt agreed that the use of this term indicates that Hunt was willing to play a larger role in the murder conspiracy had he been required.

Hunt alleges on the tape that then Vice President Lyndon B. Johnson was involved in the planning of the assassination and in the cover-up, stating that LBJ, "Had an almost maniacal urge to become president, he regarded JFK as an obstacle to achieving that."



Asked if his father followed the conspiracy theories into the Kennedy assassination, Saint John said the elder Hunt did follow the work of AJ Weberman, a New York freelance writer, who in the early 70's first accused Hunt of being one of three bums who were arrested in Dealy Plaza. The so-called bums (pictured above) were interrogated and later released by authorities shortly after the assassination. Weberman, one of the founders of the Youth International Party, the Vippies, published photographs of the tramps and found that two of them bore striking similarities to Hunt and Frank Sturgis, also named by Hunt in the tape as having been played a role in the assassination conspiracy.



Asked for his opinion as to whether his father was indeed one of the Dealy Plaza tramps, Saint John, in a stunning revelation, said one of the tramps indeed looked much like his father did in 1963 (see comparison above).



CIA operative Frank Stugis' striking resemblance to one of the "tramps".



Other researchers believe the "Hunt tramp" to really be Chauncey Holt, who apparently later confessed to the fact. Charles Harrelson was allegedly identified as the third tramp.

Saint John Hunt said that shortly before his death, his father had felt "deeply conflicted and deeply remorseful" that he didn't blow the whistle on the plot at the time and prevent the assassination, but that everyone in the government hated Kennedy and wanted him gone in one way or another. Kennedy's promise to "shatter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter the remnants to the wind" was being carried out and this infuriated almost everyone at the agency.

Hunt also said that his mother's death in a December 8, 1972 plane crash in Chicago was suspicious and that there was evidence of a White House cover-up surrounding the circumstances of the alleged accident.

Investigators discovered $10,000 dollars in her luggage and Hunt alleged that his mother traveled around the country using Nixon campaign money to payoff the families of the Watergate burglars to keep them quiet about the involvement of the Nixon White House in the Watergate break-in and cover-up.

Hunt cited numerous coincidences surrounding the aftermath of the crash, including Nixon's appointment of his henchman, Egil Krough, to the National Transportation Safety Board which investigates plane crashes, the very day after the incident.


Eyewitnesses reported that the plane exploded above treetop level before it had even hit the runway.

Hunt said that "at least 20-25 FBI members," as well as numerous DIA agents were at the scene of the crash within minutes before rescue personnel had even arrived, and that this fact was attested to in a letter sent by the head of the Chicago FBI to investigator Sherman Skolnick.

Hunt said that his safety was guaranteed by the dissemination of the tape and that he had several copies and had mailed others to addresses both abroad and in the U.S.

"Once this information is out there's really no point in anyone trying to do me in or do me wrong - someone may try to discredit me but I have no skeletons in my closet," said Hunt.

As we have previously reported, the night before the Kennedy assassination, Lyndon Baines Johnson met with Dallas tycoons, FBI moguls and organized crime kingpins - emerging from the conference to tell his mistress Madeleine Duncan Brown that "those SOB's" would never embarrass him again.

Though Brown first went public on her 21-year relationship with Johnson in the early 80's, to this day her shocking revelations about how he had told her the Kennedy's "would never embarrass me again" the night before the assassination are often ignored by the media who prefer to keep the debate focused on issues which can't definitively be proven either way (or at least can be spun and whitewashed).



George Herbert Walker Bush was also pictured at the scene of the crime in Dealy Plaza.

In addition, Barr McClellan, father of former White House press secretary Scott McClellan and a partner in the Austin law firm that represented Johnson, wrote in his 2003 book that LBJ was a key player in the organization of the assassination and its cover-up. McClellan's revelations were the subject of a subsequent History Channel documentary called The Guilty Men.

(With thanks to additional reporting by David Collins)




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Arthen
Alien Abductee

USA
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Posted - 05/09/2007 :  5:36:50 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Interesting, but I don't know how reliable any of it is, simply because I've never read much about the JFK assassination. It's certainly a possibility.

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dan p.
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Uganda
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Posted - 05/09/2007 :  6:44:41 PM  Show Profile  Send dan p. an AOL message  Reply with Quote
man. people were fucking ugly back then. i mean, yeah, there's tons of uglies now, but it's like every time i see a picture of someone from when my grandparents were young and before, the people always look like they've been hit with a back full of what the fuck.

i find the jfk assassination conspiracies to be the most reasonable, though. i don't know anything about anything tied to that, though.

death to false metal.
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rubylith
Fluffy-Esque

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Posted - 05/09/2007 :  7:12:02 PM  Show Profile  Visit rubylith's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Dan...people are STILL ugly...but I know what you mean, hahaha.
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Infant Eyes
Try A Little Harder

USA
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Posted - 05/10/2007 :  1:57:02 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It would be nice if more people came out so the people of this country could understand how our country has spiraled out of control. Either that or if we could get a forceful whistle blower on 9/11.

So many people died fighting against fascism only for our politicians to be stealing the play book of Joseph Goebbels, in ministering propaganda to the american public.
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dan p.
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Uganda
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Posted - 05/10/2007 :  5:03:21 PM  Show Profile  Send dan p. an AOL message  Reply with Quote
the question becomes, from whom did joseph goebbels steal his propaganda techniques?

death to false metal.
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Infant Eyes
Try A Little Harder

USA
63 Posts

Posted - 05/10/2007 :  7:05:42 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Actually I've heard that there was a real respect for the propaganda that Brittan had used a few decades earlier that got them into the first world war. So I don't know if he stole their book, but he definitely studied it.
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dan p.
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Uganda
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Posted - 05/11/2007 :  01:14:06 AM  Show Profile  Send dan p. an AOL message  Reply with Quote
i guess my main problem is that people are saying "omg bush=nazis lawlz! he does the things goebbels did!" as if goebbels invented propaganda or something. i mean, if you want to make a serious, grown up statement about the current adminstration's propaganda techniques, as robust as they may be, you should probably dig deeper than the most obvious of the unsavory political characters. propaganda doesn't just happen. it comes from places. you have to know and understand politics and how people think and behave. so you would have to look at what goebbels based his work on.

or you know, name drop infamous nazis. that's a respectable and not at all ridiculous way to do something.

death to false metal.
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Infant Eyes
Try A Little Harder

USA
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Posted - 05/11/2007 :  9:48:36 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm not comparing Bush to Nazi's, I'm saying that the majority of our politicians are using the same great propaganda techniques used as the tyrants before us and in other lands where shit has gone way too far. I could very well compare propaganda techniques with any country such as Russia or China too.

It's not wrong to compare anyone to anything. If I compared Bush to Nazi's that's fine. In some ways he'd come up short and in others probably not. There's no crime in that. However I didn't compare Bush to the Nazi's. I merely said the same propaganda techniques are being used against us.
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dan p.
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Uganda
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Posted - 05/11/2007 :  10:48:39 PM  Show Profile  Send dan p. an AOL message  Reply with Quote
yes, i realize this. i think most of the other board members here are used to this and understand it, but a lot of times when i say "you" it's more like a general, all around you and not so much a specific you. this is because i am filled with a contempt for all things, as well as an overriding desire to burn the world. with this comes the regret that eventually there will be no more world left to burn. moral quandaries have no meaning for me; all of life's complexities have simple, violent solutions. the wants, needs, and rights of others don't make sense to me.

anyway. you, that is you specifically, are right in that you can compare our propaganda to a lot of other propaganda. my bet is that this is because propaganda techniques all have common political and philosophical roots. i would also agree that you can compare anyone to anything else, but only on the condition that sometimes that comparison can be wrong. for instance, you could compare me to, say, a ball of fuzz, but that comparison would be ridiculous.

death to false metal.
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