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Marijuanifornia
Is Anybody Here?
USA
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 Posted - 03/22/2006 : 5:44:56 PM
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In 1937, America outlawed "Marihuana" as a dangerous menace to society, claiming that "Marihuana" causes rape, murder, insanity and listening to jazz.
The US Federal government legalized "Marihuana" in 1942 to support the American military during World War II. The US Dept of Agriculture issued Special Tax Stamps to American farmers in 1942 which read, "Producer of Marihuana." The rigging of the parachute used by George Herbert Walker Bush when his bomber was shot down over the Pacific in 1942 was 100% legal American "Marihuana." George W. Bush was not born until 1946. Therefore, legal "Marihuana" has saved the lives of two US Presidents.
http://www.globalhemp.com/Archives/Government_Research/USDA/hemp_for_victory.shtml
http://www.chaozation.com/politics/hemp/hempforvictory.htm
Prove us wrong! Prove us wrong! Prove us wrong!
We hereby extend our $100,000 challenge to prove us wrong!
If all fossil fuels and their derivatives, as well as trees for paper and construction, were banned in order to save the planet, reverse the greenhouse effect and stop deforestation; then there is only one known annually renewable natural resource that is capable of providing the overall majority of the world's paper and textiles; meet all of the world's transportation, industrial and home energy needs, while simultaneously reducing pollution, rebuilding the soil and cleaning the atmosphere all at the same time... and that substance is the same one that has done it before . . . CANNABIS/HEMP/MARIJUANA!
http://www.jackherer.com
If America legalizes "Marihuana" again to support our troops, hemp will replace fossil fuels and nuclear power for the world's energy, and war for oil will end. Write to each member of Congress and tell them to reinstate the 1942 USDA program, HEMP FOR VICTORY.
http://www.house.gov/
http://www.senate.gov/
Also, here's video of Schwarzenegger getting high: http://www.forarnoldssake.com |
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rubylith
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Hopeful Rolling Waves
Alien Abductee
South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 03/22/2006 : 6:32:55 PM
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AHAHA, rock on, man. The US has been going out of their way during the 'Afghanistan Conflict" to not only blow up innocent Afghanis, but to also destroy naturally growing marijuana fields in the country. Suprised we haven't started bombing Kyrgyzstan either.
The American government spends so much money trying to seek and destroy pot for no reason other than to protect their stakes in other illicit drug manufacturing, and to protect big business buddies, such as DuPont, from having to compete with natural hemp products. (Hemp is much more powerful than nylon...but we'd never know considering the DuPont's paid the gov't to illegalize marijuana for that reason)
LEGALIZE MARIJUANA! I love it. |
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
4845 Posts |
Posted - 03/22/2006 : 6:50:06 PM
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| You're in Chico, CA? Wow, what a crazy coincidence... |
Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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guitfiddler
Chatterbox
USA
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Posted - 03/22/2006 : 8:12:59 PM
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When I was in college, I was in SSDP: Students for aa Sensible Drug Policy. Here is a link to their web site. They have events in just about every college town in the nation. END THE DRUG WAR! START A WAR ON POVERTY!!
http://www.ssdp.org/ |
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Marijuanifornia
Is Anybody Here?
USA
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Posted - 03/23/2006 : 09:29:33 AM
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War on crime, war on drugs, war on terror, war on Christmas, etc. etc....
Why not a war on poverty? Or a war on illiteracy? Or a war on homelessness? Of course, the Christian Reich answer to all this would be to build more prisons. Like Barbara Bush said, 'all these people are underpriviledged anyway, so this would (ha ha) work out well for them.'
Reading about Iran-Contra, we see that the CIA has been involved with running a steady supply of coke and heroin into the US since the early 80s. This is also partly a reason for the war in Afghanistan now. After all, you can't have a war on drugs without the drugs.
The US Dept of Agriculture ran posters during World War II which read, "Grow Hemp For The War." Nowadays, we should be running these posters again. If hemp replaces fossil fuels for our gasoline and electricity, the fortunes of the Bush family and Osama bin Laden will disappear from them, and their wars will end.
Grow Hemp For The War on Terror.
Grow Hemp For The War on Crime.
Grow Hemp For The War on Drugs.
Grow Hemp For The War.
http://www.pdxnorml.org/Hemp_for_Victory_1942.html
http://www.kucinich.us/issues/hemp.php |
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rubylith
Fluffy-Esque
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Posted - 03/23/2006 : 09:32:07 AM
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| I love Kucinich, but whats up with the circus slogan? I don't get it? |
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Fluffy
Administrator
USA
10739 Posts |
Posted - 03/23/2006 : 12:53:18 PM
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(from the old thread "Hemp for Victory")
http://www.crrh.org/hemptv/docs_victory.html |
Peace & Keep the Faith
Fluffy         
"THE MUSIC BUSINESS IS A CRUEL AND SHALLOW MONEY TRENCH-- A LONG PLASTIC HALLWAY WHERE THIEVES AND PIMPS RUN FREE AND GOOD MEN DIE LIKE DOGS. THERE'S ALSO A NEGATIVE SIDE..." -Hunter S. Thompson |
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Fluffy
Administrator
USA
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Posted - 03/23/2006 : 12:53:52 PM
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Cannabis is given health all clear
by David Taylor Home Affairs Correspondent
This Is London
© Associated Newspapers Ltd., 14 March 2002
Scientists today cleared the way for a softening of the law on cannabis, declaring that the drug "is not associated with major health problems for the individual or society".
The Government's Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs found that while cannabis smokers can become dependent, the drug is not as addictive as tobacco or alcohol.
Although cannabis may pose risks for people with heart problems, or for schizophrenics, the dangers are not so great as in the case of other drugs such as amphetamine, say the scientists. In healthy young people, cannabis is even said to have a similar effect on the heart as exercise.
The findings are sure to dismay some anti-drugs campaigners who regard cannabis as a "gateway drug" which can lead users to experiment with harder substances, such as heroin.
At the moment, cannabis is a Class B drug, one rung down from cocaine, heroin and ecstasy, but on a par with amphetamine or "speed". In October, Home Secretary David Blunkett signalled his intention to downgrade cannabis to Class C alongside steroids and some sleeping pills - meaning that being caught with small amounts would no longer be an arrestable offence.
Today's advisory council report says cannabis is less harmful than other Class B drugs, adding: "The continuing juxtaposition of cannabis with these more harmful Class B drugs, erroneously ( and dangerously) suggests that their harmful effects are equivalent."
It makes clear that alcohol is far more damaging than cannabis to health and society at large because it encourages risk-taking and leads to aggressive and violent behaviour.
Today's report - always expected to support downgrading - is seen as the next step toward the biggest change in the drugs laws for more than 30 years.
Both the Commons and the Lords will have to debate and vote on the issue before the law can be changed and the Home Secretary will wait until he has read two more key reports before he asks Parliament to look at the question.
First, he wants to see a study of the Metropolitan Police's Lambeth experiment where people caught with cannabis have been let off with a warning and simply had the drug confiscated. Then he will read the home affairs select committee's wide-ranging report on the Government's drugs policies.
A Home Office source said any change in the law would come "in the summer at the earliest". It would still be possible to go to jail for dealing in cannabis, but people caught with small amounts for personal use would likely face only confiscation and a formal warning. |
Peace & Keep the Faith
Fluffy
"THE MUSIC BUSINESS IS A CRUEL AND SHALLOW MONEY TRENCH-- A LONG PLASTIC HALLWAY WHERE THIEVES AND PIMPS RUN FREE AND GOOD MEN DIE LIKE DOGS. THERE'S ALSO A NEGATIVE SIDE..." -Hunter S. Thompson |
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Fluffy
Administrator
USA
10739 Posts |
Posted - 03/23/2006 : 1:01:48 PM
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Again, I recommend you all acquire and READ "The Emperor Wears No Clothes" by Jack Herer.
Here in DC they finally put the Medical Marijuana issue to a vote. They put it on the ballot, let THE PEOPLE vote on it. When the voting was over they refused to release the results. The govt was drug into court and forced to release the count. When they released the count, which was 69% in favor of Medical Marijuana, the govt also said "That regardless of the outcome, they would not support or endorse that bill to pass." Now what is that? The people have spoken, and they still think THEY know whats best. Well I feel they are supposed to represent us REGARDLESS of their personal opinions. We put them there to represent us, and when WE tell THEM what WE want, they treat us like children who don't know whats good for us. I think that is a load of crap! They will have it the way THEY want it despite our letters, votes, etc.
Fluffy said in:http://www.timreynolds.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=847
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An organization called H.E.M.P.(Help End Marijuana Prohibition) offered a $100,000 challenge to the world to prove them wrong. Here it is: If all the fossil fuels and their derivatives, as well as trees for paper and construction were banned in order to save the planet, reverse the Greenhouse Effect and stop deforestation; THEN there is only one known annually renewable source that is capable of providing the overall majority of the world's paper and textiles, meet all of the worlds transportation, industrial, and home energy needs, while simultaneously reducing pollution, rebuilding the soil, and cleaning the atmosphere all at the same time....
And that substance is-the same one that did it all before-Cannabis Hemp...Marijuana!
http://www.jackherer.com
Cannibas Hemp was legal tender(money) in most of the Americas from 1631-until the early 1800's. Why? To encourage American farmers to grow more.
You could pay your taxes with cannibas hemp throughout America for over 200 years!
You could be jailed in America for not growing cannabis during several periods of shortage, e.g.,in Virginia between 1763 and 1767.
Benjamin Franklin started one of Americas first paper mills with cannabis. This allowed America to have a free colonial press without having to beg or justify the need for paper and books from England.
There are cities all over the country named for the fact that they were HEMP producing areas. Like Hempstead, Long Island. Which I think is near Jon Soldo.
Hemp is overall, the strongest, most-durable, longest-lasting natural soft-fiber ont he planet. It's leaves and flower tops were-depending on the culture-the first second or third most important and most used medicines for 2/3 of worlds people for at least 3000 years, until the turn of the century. Hemp is, by far, Earth's premier, renewable natural resource. This is why HEMP is so very important.
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Peace & Keep the Faith
Fluffy
"THE MUSIC BUSINESS IS A CRUEL AND SHALLOW MONEY TRENCH-- A LONG PLASTIC HALLWAY WHERE THIEVES AND PIMPS RUN FREE AND GOOD MEN DIE LIKE DOGS. THERE'S ALSO A NEGATIVE SIDE..." -Hunter S. Thompson |
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Hopeful Rolling Waves
Alien Abductee
South Sandwich Islands
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CosmicHomesickAlien
Is Anybody Here?
USA
31 Posts |
Posted - 03/23/2006 : 6:12:37 PM
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I would love to see marijuana legalized just as much as the next pot head, but i don't believe that it would be the greatest idea at this point in time. Maybe if we had taken care of this issue in the fifties or sixties, when it should have been, I would have a different opinion. My main concern is how much is the government going to tax weed when they make it legal? The answer is who the fuck knows they could make it as high as they want, just look at how much they have taxed cigarettes, and they don't really get you high like smoking pot does. Would anybody here pay 6 or even 8 hundred dollars for an ounce of weed, and even though it is a renewable resource how much would they charge for all of it's other uses. If it were a bunch of hippies in office the price would be awesomely low, but we don't have hippies in office now do we. Instead we have a bunch of money/power grubing assholes. As far as i can tell most people who want to legalize marjuana just don't want to have to pay the consequences for being caught with it, which i have had to deal with on more than one occasion.
Another question i have is, what are you going to do with all the people making shit loads of money in the illegal drug trade now? How pissed of are they going to be when their only source, or main source of income is taken away by the government. Most of those people are probably out of their minds and would stop at nothing to try and hurt the people who took their lives away, and something tells me that they probably have the conections to make a pretty big bang if you know what i mean.
I would love it if marijauna/hemp were legal, but like i said it should have been taken care of in the fifties or sixties. |
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guitfiddler
Chatterbox
USA
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Posted - 03/23/2006 : 9:23:28 PM
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Another question i have is, what are you going to do with all the people making shit loads of money in the illegal drug trade now? How pissed of are they going to be when their only source, or main source of income is taken away by the government. Most of those people are probably out of their minds and would stop at nothing to try and hurt the people who took their lives away, and something tells me that they probably have the conections to make a pretty big bang if you know what i mean.
I doubt that it would be the weed pushers that would get violent. More than likely, it will be the legal drug companies. Talk about income. |
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peewee_zz
Chatterbox
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Posted - 03/23/2006 : 9:42:08 PM
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I wasn't going to respond to this thread because I don't really care either way. Basically I never want to visit Amsterdam and on the other hand Prohabition failed miserably.
The reason I post is that I just found out that my brother in law overdosed on heroin a few days ago. Supposedly he's o.k. now but nobody's really heard from him since apart from he survived. |
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guitfiddler
Chatterbox
USA
136 Posts |
Posted - 03/23/2006 : 9:49:58 PM
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I wasn't going to respond to this thread because I don't really care either way. Basically I never want to visit Amsterdam and on the other hand Prohabition failed miserably.
The reason I post is that I just found out that my brother in law overdosed on heroin a few days ago. Supposedly he's o.k. now but nobody's really heard from him since apart from he survived.
That sucks man. I had 2 friends that I used to jam with who died from that. If you get in touch with him, make sure he knows how lucky he is to have won that gamble. Good luck to you and your family |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
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Posted - 03/24/2006 : 02:03:40 AM
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| prohibition failed in one sense, but not completely. alcohol consumption dropped significantly during that time. also, everyone pretty much wanted it. you don't get an amendment to the constitution without getting 3/4 of the state's to vote yes. it's common to hear that people drank more during prohibition, but it's not true, and when i get my hands on my history books, it'll hit you with sources for that. |
death to false metal. |
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guitfiddler
Chatterbox
USA
136 Posts |
Posted - 03/24/2006 : 03:37:32 AM
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The Mile High City
Marijuana legalized in Denver
Posted Thursday, November 10 2005 12:36:11 am
By Jenell Jackson, Technician (N.C. State)
(U-WIRE) RALEIGH, N.C. - Now that marijuana has been legalized in Denver, the "Mile High City" definitely means something new.
Denver residents voted 54 percent to 46 percent to legalize the possession of an ounce of marijuana for those over 21 years of age. State possession laws, however, will still be applied according to authorities.
Those who support the law agree that use of marijuana is safer than cigarettes and second-hand smoke. Members from the group Safer Alternatives for Enjoyable Recreation educated voters on the more harmful effects of alcohol on society as opposed to marijuana.
At North Carolina State University, students are split on the issue of whether or not any amount of marijuana should be legal. Ryan MCcauley, a junior in sports management, said he believes that making marijuana legal is safer for its users.
"It's a smart idea [to make marijuana legal] because so many people are doing it anyway, and if it's legal there is less danger involved in people buying and selling it," McCauley said.
Less violence is one reason that some are in favor of the law, other reasons include decreasing alcohol consumption and alcohol-related deaths.
"Marijuana should definitely be legal," Kelly Clark, a junior in political science, said. "If it's made legal than people would get into less trouble trying to hide it."
Denver is not the only state to follow these laws; Seattle, Oakland and even a couple of college towns have made laws on possession minimal priority for law enforcement.
According to Clark, making possession of marijuana legal will cut down on drinking and drinking related deaths.
"Kids [who] are smoking pot aren't drinking and driving, nor are they nearly as impaired as a drunk person," Clark said.
Some feel that to legalize marijuana would cause increased drug addiction percentages and higher chances of school age children using it as well.
"If pot is made legal, then kids won't be afraid to do it," said Lucia Lazarowski, a junior in Education, said. "If it's made legal more people would do it and become addicted."
http://www.dailycolonial.com/go.dc?p=3&s=1576 |
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tericee
Alien Abductee
USA
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Posted - 03/24/2006 : 10:07:27 AM
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Originally posted by Hopeful Rolling Waves
AHAHA, rock on, man. The US has been going out of their way during the 'Afghanistan Conflict" to not only blow up innocent Afghanis, but to also destroy naturally growing marijuana fields in the country. Suprised we haven't started bombing Kyrgyzstan either.
Really? I thought they were trying to destroy poppy fields in Afghanistan, not marijuana... |
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peewee_zz
Chatterbox
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Posted - 03/24/2006 : 12:30:12 PM
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Originally posted by dan p.
prohibition failed in one sense, but not completely. alcohol consumption dropped significantly during that time. also, everyone pretty much wanted it. you don't get an amendment to the constitution without getting 3/4 of the state's to vote yes. it's common to hear that people drank more during prohibition, but it's not true, and when i get my hands on my history books, it'll hit you with sources for that.
If you can get references I'd love to see them. I personally don't drink. I've seen much of my extended family pretty much drink them stupid. In the case of my brother-in-law he's been an alcoholic since he was about 14. I'm not interested in forcing people not to drink, but some people just don't understand why I choose not to. It helps to have these kind of interesting facts.
It's funny because about 40 minutes south of my house is a LARGE bilboard that advertises for a speak easy that's been around that long. |
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Kenneth
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Posted - 03/24/2006 : 12:55:34 PM
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| I’d like to throw in my 2 cents on this topic. In my opinion there is nothing wrong with smoking marijuana… besides the fact that it’s illegal. However, I’m more inclined to think the government is wrong for making it illegal than thinking I’m wrong for smoking. I've been smoking on and off for 11 years. More on than off. :) None of the stereotypes that are out there for pot smokers seem to fit me and I'm just as much a pot head as the next guy. It’s all a scare tactic. I have to laugh at the commercials that try to make everyone believe that you may murder someone if you’re stoned. It’s an obvious ploy to scare people and make them think weed is worse than it actually is. If you’re stupid enough to play with a gun while others are around you may end up shooting them, stoned or not. Just because people are stupid and careless doesn’t have anything to do with whether or not someone is stoned or not. And if that doesn’t work people try to say it’s a gateway drug and if you smoke you’ll eventually end up doing real drugs. If you’re going to do drugs you’re going to do them regardless if you’ve ever smoked bud or not. I think using drugs starts off as more of a curiosity thing and people just want to try it and see what it’s like. Smoking pot doesn’t make you want to go out and use drugs. I think the people who end up using drugs has more to do with the people they are hanging out with than whether or not they’ve ever smoked a bowl or not. And I’d be willing to bet that smoking a J isn’t any worse for you than smoking a cigarette or drinking liquor. I can function a lot better when stoned that when shit faced drunk. It’s never had an adverse affect on me. It makes me normal. I’ve never been arrested, I have a college degree, and I have a really good job. In fact, it actually has a medical benefit for me. For years I've had major stomach problems with acid reflux and anything else that is closely related. I’ve had countless tests ran on my stomach and have been prescribed all kinds of meds for it. When I have a smoke it really helps to settle my stomach. More so than a lot of other stuff I’ve tried. So I’m all for it being legalized if they were to do it the right way. If it’s bunk weed then that’s just a waste of time and money. I seriously doubt it will be legalized anytime soon though. But the fact that police are making our jails even more crowded by pot smokers is just ridiculous. Why not go after real criminals? |
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
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Posted - 03/24/2006 : 12:56:37 PM
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| Some call it marijuana, some call it gange... |
Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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Hopeful Rolling Waves
Alien Abductee
South Sandwich Islands
2154 Posts |
Posted - 03/24/2006 : 1:55:25 PM
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| Both Teri. The poppy fields are cultivated though, there is marijuana there that grows wild, that they find with infrared sensors. |
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tericee
Alien Abductee
USA
2579 Posts |
Posted - 03/25/2006 : 10:17:06 AM
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Gotcha. You'd think they'd be more worried about the poppies.
Have you ever seen the British mini-series Traffik, which was the inspiration for the Stephen Soderburgh film Traffic, only better? |
teri
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Hopeful Rolling Waves
Alien Abductee
South Sandwich Islands
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
3776 Posts |
Posted - 03/25/2006 : 4:34:14 PM
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| i don't normally drink either. just every now and again, and i don't get drunk. when i get back i'll find those citations for you. drinking i think is a choice, and really there's no wrong choice. obviously if you drink yourself oblivion, that's a problem. |
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guitfiddler
Chatterbox
USA
136 Posts |
Posted - 03/26/2006 : 5:38:13 PM
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| I'm drunk right now. By the way, it's 5:42 on a Sunday. |
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Marijuana Saved George Bush's Life
