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pcbTIM
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Posted - 03/29/2005 :  11:45:26 AM  Show Profile  Visit pcbTIM's Homepage  Send pcbTIM an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Yes.....I know it's by Lindsey Buckingham, but I was curious if anyone here could give me some pointers on how to learn this song. The only thing standing between me and learning it is that he plays two different beats simultaneously.....something I can't seem to do. It's a sort of a banjo style of picking I think. Anyway, could someone please give me some advice or maybe some exercises to help me learn Big Love.....because trying by myself just ends up with me being frustrated.

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Hopeful Rolling Waves
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Posted - 03/29/2005 :  4:11:49 PM  Show Profile  Send Hopeful Rolling Waves an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Other than the fact that I firmly believe that this song is physically impossible to play, even after seeing Buckingham play it, I suggest ordering the back issue of Acoustic Guitar World that has the song tabbed out (it's a good tab) and then buy The Dance DVD and watch him play it until you become a little Fleetwood Mac zombie.

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Silky The Pimp
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Posted - 03/29/2005 :  6:56:09 PM  Show Profile  Send Silky The Pimp an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I've never heard this... care to post an mp3 or something?

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GuitarGuy305
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Posted - 03/29/2005 :  7:47:08 PM  Show Profile  Send GuitarGuy305 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
This song rocks. Lindsey is awesome. I know I couldn't play the song for shit and have never tried.
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pcbTIM
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Posted - 03/30/2005 :  05:27:06 AM  Show Profile  Visit pcbTIM's Homepage  Send pcbTIM an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I don't know about an mp3, but you can listen to a part of it on amazon. The song is called Big Love. Here's the link, Silky.....prepare to be amazed, because that's one person you're listening to.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000002NHG/qid=1112178369/sr=1-5/ref=sr_1_5/104-9462748-2803101?v=glance&s=music

Also, I own the DVD and have watched it countless times. I have also found many tabs on the internet that seem accurate enough. I can psuedo-play it. The only problem I have is that my other fingers want to pluck the strings at the same time as my thumb, which is keeping the baseline. Looks like learning TR songs has actually hindered me in this department.

Oh and Silky, I have the entire song saved on my computer....so I can email it to you if you want. Trust me, you'll want to hear the whole thing.

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Hopeful Rolling Waves
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Posted - 03/30/2005 :  11:13:59 AM  Show Profile  Send Hopeful Rolling Waves an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I think Fleetwood Mac can eat a fat pile of shit, but Big Love solo Buckingham is a fucking masterwork of fingerstyle guitar...for a pop song at least.

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enthuTIMsiast
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Posted - 03/30/2005 :  1:26:47 PM  Show Profile  Send enthuTIMsiast an AOL message  Reply with Quote
paTRick, you could host it on 'yousendit' and could share the link to the few people here who are interested...

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Hopeful Rolling Waves
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Posted - 03/30/2005 :  1:43:14 PM  Show Profile  Send Hopeful Rolling Waves an AOL message  Reply with Quote
No, that would be wrong.


AHAHAHHAHAHHA

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pcbTIM
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Posted - 03/30/2005 :  3:45:36 PM  Show Profile  Visit pcbTIM's Homepage  Send pcbTIM an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Here's the link....

http://s27.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3UH6BQQ2DJXT00A986P3W57EKU

And I think I figured out how to play it......I just start really slow....and then after playing it for a while, I can increase the speed. A pain in the ass, but it's seems to be working.

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pcbTIM
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Posted - 04/06/2005 :  3:31:00 PM  Show Profile  Visit pcbTIM's Homepage  Send pcbTIM an AOL message  Reply with Quote
OK......none of you may believe me, but I can now play this song (except for the solo part). This has been one of the hardest songs I've learned to play. And of course, after playing it over and over again, the song seems easy now. The way I learned it was to play it very very slowly and gradually pick up the speed. All that's left is the solo and I'm set.

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KevinLesko
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Posted - 04/06/2005 :  3:43:23 PM  Show Profile  Send KevinLesko an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I'm glad you got it man, I was going to suggest sleeping with Stevie Nicks.

Can you play "Never Going Back Again"?

god
Kevin
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Hopeful Rolling Waves
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Posted - 04/06/2005 :  5:33:14 PM  Show Profile  Send Hopeful Rolling Waves an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Pcb, if you could post your version, I'd love to hear it, I am thinking of trying my hand at this one again as well.

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pcbTIM
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Posted - 04/06/2005 :  9:30:10 PM  Show Profile  Visit pcbTIM's Homepage  Send pcbTIM an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I would post it....but I wouldn't know how.

And Kevin.....I don't know that song....but I'll download it and give it a listen.

Also, I can play Go Insane....that song is awesome too.

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Hopeful Rolling Waves
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Posted - 04/07/2005 :  4:41:13 PM  Show Profile  Send Hopeful Rolling Waves an AOL message  Reply with Quote
You can post it on yousendit.com, or you can just email it to me if want, that'd be cool.

jadphex@gmail.com

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pcbTIM
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Posted - 04/07/2005 :  4:50:54 PM  Show Profile  Visit pcbTIM's Homepage  Send pcbTIM an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Ah....you misunderstand....I mean how would I record myself int he first place.

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Hopeful Rolling Waves
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Posted - 04/07/2005 :  4:56:00 PM  Show Profile  Send Hopeful Rolling Waves an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Oh, you can't just mic up your computer? I am sure you have even a shitty boom mic.

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pcbTIM
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Posted - 04/07/2005 :  5:37:52 PM  Show Profile  Visit pcbTIM's Homepage  Send pcbTIM an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I did something better than that....I remembered that I had a digital camera (I haven't used it in a long time). I recorded myself, so you can see it as well as listen to it. Give me a few minutes and I'll have it uploaded.

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Hopeful Rolling Waves
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Posted - 04/07/2005 :  7:22:05 PM  Show Profile  Send Hopeful Rolling Waves an AOL message  Reply with Quote
You're the man. Hook it up.

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pcbTIM
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Posted - 04/07/2005 :  7:23:27 PM  Show Profile  Visit pcbTIM's Homepage  Send pcbTIM an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Here you go......proof that this song can be played. Side note....I've actually tried to learn this song for over 2 years now. So I'm pretty happy with myself. And I learned the solo as well.....so the song's complete.

http://s8.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3KQIJBXHOFXRW139L77YFLKC4B

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pcbTIM
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Posted - 04/07/2005 :  7:54:32 PM  Show Profile  Visit pcbTIM's Homepage  Send pcbTIM an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Also....here's the tab I used if anyone's interested.

tab in relavance to the capo on 4th fret

Verse

E------------------*------------------*------------------*
B------------------*------------------*------------------*
G--------2---------*---------2--------*--2---------------*
D--0h2-------------*--0h2-------------*--------2---------*
A--0----0----0----0*--0----0----0----0*------------------*
E------------------*------------------*--3----3----3----3*

E------------------*------------------*------------------*
B------------------*------------------*------------------*
G--2---------------*---------2--------*----------2-------*
D---------2--------*--0h2-------------*--0h2-------------*
A------------------*------------------*------------------*
E--3----3----3----3*--1----1----1----1*--1----1----1----1*

E------------------*------------------*
B------------------*------------------*
G--2---------------*--2---------------*
D---------2--------*----------2-------*
A------------------*------------------*
E--0----0----0----0*--0----0----0----0*

Chorus

E------------------*------------------*
B------------------*------------------*
G------------------*------------------*
D----------3-------*---------2--------*
A--0h3-------------*--0h2-------------*
E--1----1----1----1*--0----0----0----0*

E------------------*------------0-----*--1p0------------*
B-----------------0*--1----3----------*---------3-----1p0*
G--2------2--------*------------------*------------------*
D------------------*------------------*--0----0----0--0--*
A--0----0----0----0*--0----0----0----0*------------------*
E------------------*------------------*------------------*

E--1p0-------------*------------------*------------------*
B---------3-----1p0*------------------*------------------*
G--0----0---0---0--*--2------2-------0*--2---------------*
D------------------*------------------*------------------*
A------------------*--0----0----0----0*--0----0----0----0*
E------------------*------------------*------------------*

E------------------*------------------*------------------*
B------------------*------------------*-----------------0*
G------------------*------------------*--2-------2-------*
D---------3--------*---------2--------*------------------*
A--0h3-------------*--0h2-------------*--0----0----0----0*
E--1----1----1----1*--0----0----0----0*------------------*

E-----------------0*------------------*------------------*
B-----1------3-----*-------3---------1*----0-------1----0*
G------------------*------------------*------------------*
D------------------*--0----0----0----0*--0----0----0----0*
A--0----0----0----0*------------------*------------------*
E------------------*------------------*------------------*

E------------------*------------------*
B------------------*------------------*
G--2------2-------0*--2---------------*
D------------------*------------------*
A--0----0----0----0*--0----0----0----0*
E------------------*------------------*

Solo
E--8------5-------8*-----5------8----5*--8-------5------8*
B------------------*------------------*------------------*
G------------------*------------------*------------------*
D------------------*--0----0----0----0*------------------*
A--0----0----0----0*------------------*--0----0----0----0*
E------------------*------------------*------------------*

E-----5------8----5*--8-------5------8*-----8------8----8*
B------------------*------------------*------------------*
G------------------*------------------*------------------*
D--0----0----0----0*------------------*--0----0----0----0*
A------------------*--0----0----0----0*------------------*
E------------------*------------------*------------------*

E--5-------5-------*--5---------------*------------------*
B-----------------8*------------------*---------0-------1*
G------------------*------------------*--2---------------*
D------------------*--0----0----0----0*------------------*
A--0----0----0----0*------------------*--0----0----0----0*
E------------------*------------------*------------------*

E------------------*--0-------1------3*-----1------0-----*
B-----0------1----3*------------------*-----------------1*
G------------------*------------------*------------------*
D--0----0----0----0*------------------*--0----0----0----0*
A------------------*--0----0----0----0*------------------*
E------------------*------------------*------------------*

E---------0--------*------------------*------------------*
B--3--------------3*-----1------1----0*------------------*
G------------------*------------------*--2-------2------0*
D------------------*--0----0----0----0*------------------*
A--0----0----0----0*------------------*--0----0----0----0*
E------------------*------------------*------------------*

E------------------*
B------------------*
G--2---------------*
D--0----0----0----0*
A------------------*
E------------------*


Solo 2 - part 1
(right after first solo, feel changes so you had
better listen to the cd to get timing)
e--------0--------0--------0----0-------0-------0----0----
B------0---------0--------0----0-------0-------0----0-----
G-----9---------9--------9----8-------8-------8----6------
D---11----11--11---11--11----9----9--9----9--9----7----7--
A---------------------------------------------------------
E---------------------------------------------------------

e-----0-------0----0-------0-------0-*
B----0-------0----0-------0-------0--*
G---6-------6----8-------8-------8---*Repeat then go to Part 2
D--7----7--7----9----9--9----9--9----*when he begins singing
A------------------------------------*
E------------------------------------*

Part 2

e-----0---0---0---0---0---0---0---0--
B----0---0---0---0---0---0---0---0---
G---9---9---9---9---8---8---8---8----
D-11--11--11--11---9---9---9---9-----
A------------------------------------
E------------------------------------

e----0---0---0---0---0---0---0---0-
B---0---0---0---0---0---0---0---0--
G--6---6---6---7---8---8---8---8--- Repeat and on second
D-7---7---7---7---9---9---9---9---- time play an Em chord
A---------------------------------- when he strums really
E---------------------------------- quickly at the end

at the end at the frantic strumming "oh! ah!" part it sounds like
it's going between and Am and Em formations.

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pcbTIM
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Posted - 04/10/2005 :  11:05:02 PM  Show Profile  Visit pcbTIM's Homepage  Send pcbTIM an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Does anyone else want to see this? Because I can upload it again.

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Xar666
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Posted - 04/14/2005 :  11:34:40 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The song is below. pcbTIM, you are a badass. I have tried many times on that song. You have inspired me to try again.

http://www.pliable.org/music/Big%20Love.mp3
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pcbTIM
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Posted - 04/14/2005 :  3:17:25 PM  Show Profile  Visit pcbTIM's Homepage  Send pcbTIM an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Actually....I meant the video....but it doesn't matter. Welcome back Xar. Haven't seen you in a long time. As you can see from the posts, it took me over a week to learn this beast. Very frustrating, but very rewarding.

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Hopeful Rolling Waves
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Posted - 04/14/2005 :  3:57:37 PM  Show Profile  Send Hopeful Rolling Waves an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I'm almost through it, PCB, thanks a lot for the vid. It was a 'big, big heee-eeee-eeelp.'

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Xar666
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Posted - 04/14/2005 :  5:43:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pcbTIM

Actually....I meant the video....but it doesn't matter. Welcome back Xar. Haven't seen you in a long time. As you can see from the posts, it took me over a week to learn this beast. Very frustrating, but very rewarding.



I knew you meant the video. I just thought someone might want the song.

Thanks, good to be back.
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Mejmo
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Posted - 04/20/2005 :  04:22:24 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i have one noobish question ;) do i have to use my thumb of my left hand within bassline in the introduction ??
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pcbTIM
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Posted - 04/22/2005 :  1:45:41 PM  Show Profile  Visit pcbTIM's Homepage  Send pcbTIM an AOL message  Reply with Quote
You can do whatever you want. I don't personally....but if you're more comfortable using your thumb, then go for it.

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Mejmo
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Posted - 05/20/2005 :  07:05:02 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
pcbTim: you are absolutely wrong with that tab. Download guitar pro tab and you'll see how it should be played. You don't use even a string bending throughout a solo, as well as other parts you play with mistakes ... you'd rather shut up than post a total bullshit here, you only confuse others ! I hate these people. WHEN YOU ARE NOT SURE OF YOUR TABS AT ALMOST 90% DON'T POST IT AT ALL !! sux
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Hopeful Rolling Waves
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Posted - 05/20/2005 :  07:33:57 AM  Show Profile  Send Hopeful Rolling Waves an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Mejmo, go fuck yourself. We're not all overblown perfectionist jerk-offs here, so take your Guitar Pro tab and shove it up your ass. No one cares. The kid's having a good time playing a difficult track, and your noob ass is gonna come in here with your big fat fucking ego hanging out and bash him.

Don't let me see you in public, cuase I'll knot your little dick around your throat, and yes, I can get 1 and a half inches to stretch that far.

I guarantee, I am at LEAST 90% sure you're a fucking idiot, so I guess I'm right.

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Mejmo
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Posted - 05/22/2005 :  07:03:03 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You know what is the difference ? That my critique had a bit of sense, whether yours didn't. When someone would like to a learn this tremendous song, he ought to have a RIGHT tab. PCBtim's tab is a holy crap, it can only annoy some optimistic guitar player. He doesn't have any ear or something...
and one thing i've forgot, i'm sure you need a help. It is never too late idiot ;)
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Hopeful Rolling Waves
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Posted - 05/23/2005 :  07:43:19 AM  Show Profile  Send Hopeful Rolling Waves an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I'm need a help?

Well, thanks, you steaming glass of douche water. And what critique? If you could read, you'd know I said nothing about the tab he posted.

I am simply stating you are a complete dick for even saying anything, you don't like it, piss off and go find another tab because you're too lazy to work it out yourself. Or worse, you can play it and instead of tabbing it out for people, you just sit there in your cubicle and condescend from afar.

Eat shit, royal asshole!

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pcbTIM
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Posted - 05/24/2005 :  9:46:45 PM  Show Profile  Visit pcbTIM's Homepage  Send pcbTIM an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I don't see what's wrong with it. But if you think there is something incorrect, then show me. I'd be more than happy to learn the "correct" way of playing it, but there's no need to be a jerk about it.

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Zachmozach
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Mejmo, you act like you paid him to tab it. I think since those of us who have been around here realize that tabs are pretty much not acurate no matter what, and do nothing to tell you the rythyms or much anything else. It's simply a way to quickly convey how we have worked out to play the song. So basically quit your bitching. If you want to go somewhere and bitch about tabs being wrong there are plenty of tab sites out there with more wrong tabs then you have time to bitch about them. If you want to offer a correction feel free. If you're not going to say what's wrong then move on.

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Posted - 05/26/2005 :  9:57:26 PM  Show Profile  Send Silky The Pimp an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Death to all tabbers!!!!

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Jamie M
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Wow, this song is awesome. I've just spent the past hour learning the verse, it sounds so cool. I'm not looking forward to figuring out that chorus though.
I'm VERY new to this song, but I think I see a correction to Solo 2, some of those ascending notes seem to be wrong, they don't sound minor enough. I'd change them to:

e----0-----0-----0-----0-
b---0-----0-----0-----0--
g--9-----7-----5-----7---
d-7-----5-----3-----5----
a------------------------
E------------------------

which then also leaves room to easily change to the strumming "Em" chord:

e-0-
b-0-
g-7-
d-5-
a-7-
E-0-

Just a suggestion, I think you can hear those bass notes pretty clearly though. Let me know what you guys think.

Pcb I'd like to take a look at your video if you've still got it.
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Arthen
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Jamie, you are a badass. You just pop up every now and then and bestow musical gifts upon us.

Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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Jamie M
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I do what I can. Glad to know it's appreciated. This has always been my favourite section of the Board..
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Jamie M
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quote:
Originally posted by Jamie M

Wow, this song is awesome. I've just spent the past hour learning the verse, it sounds so cool. I'm not looking forward to figuring out that chorus though.
I'm VERY new to this song, but I think I see a correction to Solo 2, some of those ascending notes seem to be wrong, they don't sound minor enough. I'd change them to:

e----0-----0-----0-----0-
b---0-----0-----0-----0--
g--9-----7-----5-----7---
d-7-----5-----3-----5----
a------------------------
E------------------------

which then also leaves room to easily change to the strumming "Em" chord:

e-0-
b-0-
g-7-
d-5-
a-7-
E-0-

Just a suggestion, I think you can hear those bass notes pretty clearly though. Let me know what you guys think.

Pcb I'd like to take a look at your video if you've still got it.


After further practice, here's another modification of that part.. I think it's actually right this time:

e----0----0----0----0-
b---0----0----0----0--
g--5----4----2----4---
d-7----5----3----5----
a---------------------
E---------------------

so that strumming chord is just different by:

e-0-
b-0-
g-4-
d-5-
a-7-
E-0-
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dan p.
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Posted - 06/11/2005 :  5:36:16 PM  Show Profile  Send dan p. an AOL message  Reply with Quote
this is late, but to memjo: you like to be a perfectionist elitest fuck who likes to shit on everyone else's hard work, which they don't even owe you, apparently. as if you know anything at all. a real music afficienado. that's great. it's too bad that you don't have any place to do that since YOU'RE USING TABLATURE. music elitist fucks? they read real notation, and shit on tabs in general, accurate or not. so either put on some big boy pants and go learn real notation, or just shut the fuck up. there's only one idiot here.

big love is a goddamned masterpiece, and pcb knocked my fucking socks right off.

death to false metal.
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pcbTIM
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Posted - 06/14/2005 :  8:20:36 PM  Show Profile  Visit pcbTIM's Homepage  Send pcbTIM an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Yeah Jamie...you're right....I forgot to subtract 4 because of the capo.

And I was wondering if there were any available tabs for Fleetwood Mac's new CD, Say You Will. Particularly Red Rover and Say Goodbye. The only tabs I can find on the internet for the band are of the older stuff. And after seeing Live in Boston, I just want to learn Say Goodbye even more.

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