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Xar666
Yak Addict
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 Posted - 02/23/2005 : 11:37:22 AM
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
3776 Posts |
Posted - 02/23/2005 : 3:27:21 PM
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| i'm fucking sick of this whole "timmy" not "timmy" argument thing. it's time to put this bullshit to rest. forever. yeah, i understand a lot of dmb fans who are assholes call him "timmy" because it's from south park or whatever. but, really guys, is it all that important? first of all, if he doesn't want to be called timmy then fine. don't call him timmy. but, if i read your post aright, "he was not pissed, he was rather indifferent" i think you said. then what could it possibly matter, if he doesn't care? the whole argument is bullshit. seriously, i cannot think of anything that matters less. if he doesn't care, why do you? why does anyone? |
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rubylith
Fluffy-Esque
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Posted - 02/23/2005 : 4:10:09 PM
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| I can't believe kids actually argue about stuff like this. |
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
4845 Posts |
Posted - 02/23/2005 : 4:23:45 PM
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Xar! How are you doing? I am impressed you trudged through the dark pits of Nancies.org to post. I'm glad Waldo is still there keeping an eye on things and attempting to maintain order and civility.
Hope you stick around Xar. |
Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
4845 Posts |
Posted - 02/23/2005 : 4:26:44 PM
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| Oh, and I would say he does care. At the Chico concert last August, someone shouted out "Timmy", then he said he was changing his name to "Goat" so as not to be confused with a character from South Park. And it was the chanting of Goat that got him to come back for an encore or THREE!!!! Best concert of my life. |
Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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guitarisPIMP
Yak Addict
Niue
587 Posts |
Posted - 02/23/2005 : 4:37:47 PM
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One thing's pretty clear: those who respect Tim and are aware of this whole fiasco and are sober enough to comprehend what they say or type, then they will not call him Timmy, those who do not will not rexpect him or are not aware or are not sober will not watch what they say.
With that in mind, I think it's futile to correct everyone all the time, expecially on the DMB boards, because although some people just make an honest mistake or don't know, others will just disregard it all and continue to call him Tim. |
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DMBFanSJ
Try A Little Harder
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Posted - 02/23/2005 : 8:18:25 PM
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| It really gets on my nerves when I read a post from a newbie on this board and someone jumps on his/her case for calling Tim 'Timmy'. This didn't start with South Park, it started with Dave... obviously. I don't think I've listened to a single Dave & Tim show where Dave didn't refer to Tim as 'Timmy', and I think if Tim cared enough about it he would have a talk with Dave and ask him never to call him that in public. Obviously he doesn't care that much, so I doubt he wants a bunch of board nazis here correcting everyone. Whether someone refers to him as Tim or Timmy or God or whatever doesn't matter at all, as long as they do it respectfully, so get over it!!! |
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GuitarGuy305
Alien Abductee
USA
2007 Posts |
Posted - 02/23/2005 : 8:52:13 PM
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Arguing about whether Tim can be called Timmy is like arguing over whether it is The Dave Matthews Band, or Dave Matthews Band. It doesn't matter. The assholes yelling "Timmah" at concerts suck. But if they weren't yelling that, they'd be yelling "Stream" or "Chatterbox" or "Ants Marching" or whatever other 2 songs they know of Tim's. Assholes will be assholes, and they're going to get drunk and yell shit at concerts.
Maybe we should all just go over to Nancies and DMBTabs and call Dave Davey.
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Xar666
Yak Addict
USA
546 Posts |
Posted - 02/23/2005 : 9:17:00 PM
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Originally posted by rubylith
I can't believe kids actually argue about stuff like this.
I am 27. And I did not argue. I stated. Capeesh? |
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Xar666
Yak Addict
USA
546 Posts |
Posted - 02/23/2005 : 9:18:20 PM
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Xar666
Yak Addict
USA
546 Posts |
Posted - 02/23/2005 : 9:22:17 PM
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Xar666
Yak Addict
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546 Posts |
Posted - 02/23/2005 : 9:23:45 PM
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Xar666
Yak Addict
USA
546 Posts |
Posted - 02/23/2005 : 9:24:49 PM
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
3776 Posts |
Posted - 02/23/2005 : 10:58:00 PM
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yeah, yelling it in the crowd during a performance is not acceptable. it's a disturbance. it's not that they're yelling "timmy," but that they're yelling at all. but calling him timmy, just on a board or something? who gives a fuck. i'll tell you what. now i'm going to call him timmy. how do you like that? are you going to say i don't respect timmy? that i'm not really a fan? what a fucking tragedy.
you're inconsistant, xar. you said he was indifferent on the boards, but then you said you're sure he doesn't like it here. make up your mind, then you can try making some kind of point. you say that people can cry all they want and you're still going to be the enforcer, but what are you doing but crying because you feel people aren't giving the man enough respect by calling him timmy.
you missed the point. i'm not against correcting people at all times and you know it. don't give me that. i wouldn't mind if you were kicking ass about something that matters, like if people were saying he's just a speed player. you know, something about the music. i'd be right there with you. but honest to god. what people call him a message board? give me a fucking break. it's meaningless. trust me. yeah, you're a real hero making sure no one calls him by a name he may or may not like. it means exactly nothing. |
death to false metal. |
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Xar666
Yak Addict
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546 Posts |
Posted - 02/24/2005 : 12:52:02 PM
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DMBFanSJ
Try A Little Harder
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Posted - 02/24/2005 : 1:57:50 PM
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Xar,
You're reading things into that nickname that I just don't think are there. I have called Tim 'Timmy' many times in the past, and always with the utmost respect. Do you think that when Dave calls Tim 'Timmy' he really means 'My bitch'??? Give me a break...Dave probably has as much respect for Tim as any of us here, if not more. Most people found Tim's music through Dave, and most people were introduced to Tim with Dave saying "timmmmyyy" as Tim started soloing.
Anyway...point being, if you don't frequent this board and you've just been introduced to Tim through Dave, you're going to call him Timmy, period. So don't jump on Dave fans who are just discovering Tim simply because they call him by the nickname they've grown used to...you're only going to alienate new potential fans, and I'm sure you don't really want to do that...or maybe you do, I don't know. |
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Xar666
Yak Addict
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546 Posts |
Posted - 02/24/2005 : 2:49:35 PM
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
3776 Posts |
Posted - 02/24/2005 : 4:20:13 PM
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first of all, the guy bluecow or whatever, he's an asshole. doesn't respect public figure who doesn't like it when someone calls him something he doesn't like? stupid. how about respecting him for what he does.
"Others here have sided with me before on this issue and would agree. We have spoken out against this many times. I dislike most of the people on nancies.org and especially despise the “Timmy” spouting retards. If you don’t like these threads, stay out of them. You are not an admin and have no say in the matter."
oh i see. so because side with you, you're right? that's great to hear. really. if you dislike the people nanices, why go there instead of going someplace you don't like and taking part in it. you know, since that's exactly what you told me not to do. but hey you got me. i'm not an admin. but then, neither are you, so your say and mine have the same value, don't they?
explain to me how because i think this meaningless, then i must think all boards are meaningless? how does this thread and my opinion of it transfer into all threads everywhere on the web? it doesn't. i think this topic is pointless, so suddenly all general discussion topics are pointless? for someone who clearly doesn't know what the fuck logic is and how it works, you seem to use the word an awful lot. general discussion topics can be viewed as worthwhile or not by virtue of their content. some have entertaining stories. some have questions that need answering. some promote other musicians here. some ask the opinion of others. but then others, like this one, are some guy boasting his feats in yelling at people over a message board on another message board about something like what we can and can't call a performer. bravo. well done. but i suppose that because you've deduced that tim reynolds doesn't like being called timmy, you're within your right to get bent out of shape about it if it makes you happy.
"What is the difference between my ranting against the use of a nickname and your screaming you are sick of said rants?" ok, this is good. so you think that there is not difference between my post and yours? congratulations. you've either just called my post worthwhile or yours not worthwhile. i'll let you decide which. you refuted nothing.
i don't view "timmy" as derogatory, so where does that leave us? not like it matters what you or i think of the name. it matters what he thinks of it. well, the difference between "shitbag" and "timmy" is obvious, and if you can't work it out, you're a lot dumber than i thought. "shitbag" is a slang compound word meaning literally "bag of shit." "timmy" is an other form of "timmothy." i'm not sure what the name means, but i'd be willing to bet is isn't "bag of shit." the difference is clear. at least it should be.
"Fuck it, let's only post on topics that are directly related to Tim's music because Dan p. deemed all other topics unworthy and meaningless. Is that good? Will we all be fulfilled by reading only the topics you decide are crafted with deep, satisfying substance?" your poor usage of logic is alarming, and somehow hilarious all at the same time. you can think this is how i feel if you want, though it relfects more on you than me. |
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Xar666
Yak Addict
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546 Posts |
Posted - 02/24/2005 : 5:10:33 PM
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Hopeful Rolling Waves
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guitarisPIMP
Yak Addict
Niue
587 Posts |
Posted - 02/24/2005 : 7:42:43 PM
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Originally posted by Xar666
Disregard the subject matter for a moment and look at the intents of both of us.
The problem here is just that. Sure, there is no difference in intent between these threads, which is intent to correct. However, there's a difference between correcting people from sticking two letters on the end of a name and correcting people who feel the need to spread animosity of an already well known dispute and flood the boards every week or so with this bullshit.
Once again, to review, there IS(wow IS?!  ) a difference between your rant and dan p.'s quite masterful rant. I'll just put it side by side for you, in nice large letters.
Ranting about hatred of the suffix -my on the end of the name Tim.
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Ranting against those that continue to take it upon themselves to fling handfuls of verbal shit at the peaceful community of the TimMY Reynolds message board.
**sidenote: I wonder if this ever happened on the Jennifer Lopez boards. I can see it now, "Around here we prefer Jennifer, not Jenny. Show some respect!"
Now there was your lesson in differences, and here's your lesson in similarities. Here's an example: similarity between your ranting about the name Timmy and say, someone walking into the crowded public in Texas and screaming, "IT'S 'YOU ALL', not 'YALL'!!!!" (Here's where I'd use a light-bulb emoticon is there was one) If you can't figure it out, I'll tell you. They're both pointless, meaningless, futile, weak-minded attempts to grammatically correct(are names even considered part of grammar?) a large group of people. |
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Xar666
Yak Addict
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546 Posts |
Posted - 02/24/2005 : 8:00:45 PM
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guitarisPIMP
Yak Addict
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587 Posts |
Posted - 02/24/2005 : 8:03:14 PM
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Always a mature thing to do. Don't admit you're wrong, no. Instead, say you're going to leave, "for now", and then, of course, post some good ol' gay porn for us.
*EDIT* What scares me now is thinking that you actually went onto the web and FOUND a picture like that.
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Xar666
Yak Addict
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546 Posts |
Posted - 02/24/2005 : 8:06:43 PM
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guitarisPIMP
Yak Addict
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587 Posts |
Posted - 02/24/2005 : 8:13:45 PM
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When you come back, don't make the mistake of taking all of this arguing personally. Disagreements and disagreements, and (in my most humble voice) with the higher-than-average intelligence that we (and i use we loosely here  ) have on this board, you're never going to get some shitdick response to your arguement.
And don't deny that you took it personally, because you just posted gay porn on a message board, and this message board isn't exactly for a gay porn site. Nobody does something like that nonchalantly unless they're simply just an asshole who likes to stare at his own dick in a car side-view mirror. |
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PJK
Alien Abductee
USA
4159 Posts |
Posted - 02/25/2005 : 08:21:40 AM
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Hey Xar! Really glad to see you post and equally glad that you are doing well. I still think of that horrific accident you and your girlfriend were in. The fact that you are alive today is a miracle. Are you completely over any physical problems from the accident or do they still haunt you? I sincerely hope you and your girlfriend are completely healed physically and mentally. That had to be tough. Anyway I am so happy to see your screen name here again! 
As for the Tim vrs Timmy debate, I wasn't going to comment but then I though WTH. My name is Pamela, I go by Pam. My nieces and nephews called me Aunt Pammy when they were little. My oldest sister still calls me Pammy on occasion. Hearing it from them is fine and seems natural. Now if I went to work and people called me Pammy I would be annoyed. That isn't my name and it sounds like a little girl.
On the other hand I suppose there are far worse things people could call me, and yell out at Tim. I think it bothers him to be called Timmy, but in perspective not as much as if someone screamed "You Suck."
I don't recall this ever being refered to as the Timmy Reynolds website, therefore none of us would ever even think of calling him that. Why? Because it isn't his name!
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Evergreen
Yak Addict
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Posted - 02/25/2005 : 08:47:08 AM
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Hi Xar, it IS good to see you around!! Hope all is well and that u do stick around!! I miss the old crew here and you ain't kidding when you said this board isn't like it used to be.
I gotta say, guitarispimp, dan, u guys are coming across as pretty damn nasty! Your posts on this go in circles and don't have a whole lot of validity. Xar has a valid point in everything he said and i for one support and agree with him 100% Have a little respect for TIM, Xar, and the rest of us who know TIM dislikes being called timmy.
Also, I'm not going to debate this further as its gone on WAY too long already because some people can't accept the facts. My suggestion if u can't accept it for what it is, hang out at nancies and not here. |
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guitarisPIMP
Yak Addict
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Posted - 02/25/2005 : 10:32:36 AM
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| Sorry if I came off disrespectful to you Xar or to Tim, but that wasn't the purpose. I was merely trying to prove a point or two. |
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tericee
Alien Abductee
USA
2579 Posts |
Posted - 02/25/2005 : 10:36:14 AM
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I saw a good quote from Clint Eastwood today:
During a recent interview with The New York Times he said, "Maybe I'm getting to the age when I'm starting to be senile or nostalgic or both, but people are so angry now. You used to be able to disagree with people and still be friends. Now you hear these talk shows, and everyone who believes differently from you is a moron and an idiot."
I like the idea of agreeing to disagree and being cordial about it.
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Xar666
Yak Addict
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Posted - 02/25/2005 : 12:34:41 PM
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rubylith
Fluffy-Esque
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Posted - 02/25/2005 : 1:35:43 PM
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it all comes down to most people being idiots...forever.
and no, they are not going away, they are going to be at the supermarket, they are going to be at mcdonalds, wal*mart, movie theartes, and yes, even Tim Reynold's concerts...
we just have to live with it I guess.. |
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guitarisPIMP
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Posted - 02/25/2005 : 1:46:22 PM
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| HAHA xar that's fucked up that a most shocking picture thread would get taken that far. |
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Hopeful Rolling Waves
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guitarisPIMP
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Posted - 02/25/2005 : 3:51:41 PM
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| I'm VERY fond of Timmy actually. What's that one song? River? Pond? Or that other one You Are My Sanitation.. |
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
4845 Posts |
Posted - 02/25/2005 : 4:08:14 PM
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| Yeah Xar, you have posted some strange and interesting pictures in the past. It's nice to know you have those tricks up your sleeve still. |
Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
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Posted - 02/25/2005 : 8:18:45 PM
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if xar took it personally, it's probably because i took personal shots at him. no blame to him for that.
evergreen, what can i say. you don't think my post had valid points, but that xar's does? that's probably you agree with him. that doesn't make mine or guitarispimp's points less valid. it just means you don't agree. and that's fine. if it feel like my posts go in cirlces, it's because they do. they had to because it took more than one try to get xar to explain his bizzare logic. i still don't understand how the validity of my examples has a bearing on his post, but he finally explained it, even though i still think it's absurd. the conversation can now move foward.
i guess i was unaware that tim reynolds told you he doesn't like the name timmy. if he has, then i have to concede. if he hasn't, you're only speculating based on his actions, and i don't accept your speculation as fact because it hasn't been presented to you as such. i am "accepting it" for what it is. it's your interpretation of what he thinks through his actions. nothing more. nothing less. unless tim has the words "do not call me timmy" or something else that expressly indicates that he does like "timmy" you really don't know, do you? of course, if such a thing has been said, then i guess you're right. but if it's all the same to you, i'll stay right fucking here and not go over to nancies because i don't agree with what you think he should be called. actually, whether it's all the same to you or not doesn't matter. i'm staying here and not going there regardless. get jon to ban me or something if you think it's that important. it's the only way i'm going.
also, i missed the gay porn thing. frankenstein took my monitor. i don't know what he wanted with it. |
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Kevin
Chatterbox
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Posted - 02/26/2005 : 12:57:00 AM
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Honestly who gives a shit. I mean, when morons in the crowd scream "Timmah," yeah, that's a bit irritating...but anything other than that doesn't need to be corrected, and certainly shouldn't be argued about this much on a board....especially if you don't know the said person ;)
If Tim had a problem with people calling him Timmy, we would've heard of it by now. |
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sciphish
Chatterbox
USA
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Posted - 02/26/2005 : 03:42:48 AM
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Oh my!!
Well I don't want to sound like a token liberal. But may I suggest listening to music(why does that seem out of place on a musicians mb at the moment?), my suggestion for the sake of the thread and to change it up, would be Kellar Williams. Um try "It's a Plant", it should lead into a very well done and classic Phish song.
I know this reply is off topic. But that's the point, cause venting is healthy. But resolution is key. So let's keep what's important in mind, that being music. |
I'm almost there... |
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Evergreen
Yak Addict
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Posted - 02/26/2005 : 08:01:21 AM
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dan said:quote:
if xar took it personally, it's probably because i took personal shots at him.
yup, which is what bothered me about the whole discussion. i know Xar can easily fight his own battles and yes,in the grand scheme this discussion doesn't mean too much. There is always healthy debate on this forum but it used to be there were very few personal attacks.
Teri said:quote:
I like the idea of agreeing to disagree and being cordial about it.
The best thing said so far and always a good reminder. Thanx Teri
Dan said: quote:
i'll stay right fucking here and not go over to nancies because i don't agree with what you think he should be called. actually, whether it's all the same to you or not doesn't matter. i'm staying here and not going there regardless. get jon to ban me or something if you think it's that important. it's the only way i'm going.
No Dan, i'd never propose such a rule. We don't agree on alotta things but that doesn't mean i want u to leave. Whether my opinions matter to u or not is of no concern to me. However, i do apologize for my last sentence in my last post because it did sound like i was telling u to get the hell out and i don't feel that way. I was on the defensive for Xar (who hasn't been around in a yr and adds a great uniqueness here that i miss) and TR and i often feel like you jump in with both hands swinging but Teri's post snapped me out of it.
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i guess i was unaware that tim reynolds told you he doesn't like the name timmy. unless tim has the words "do not call me timmy" or something else that expressly indicates that he does like "timmy" you really don't know, do you? of course, if such a thing has been said, then i guess you're right
well actually i do have a little inside information on this. TR and i were on the same alien spaceship prior to arriving here on Earth. After receiving our human forms and getting our instructions we had a little chat and he specifically said: "i don't like the name timmy. i hope no one ever calls me timmy. do not ever call me timmy". and he looked so sad until they handed him a guitar. |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
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Posted - 02/26/2005 : 10:48:04 AM
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| oh well alright, then. i'm not one to cross the aliens. tim it is, then. |
death to false metal. |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
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Posted - 02/26/2005 : 11:51:47 AM
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| well there you have it. i take back my comments. |
death to false metal. |
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GuitarGuy305
Alien Abductee
USA
2007 Posts |
Posted - 02/26/2005 : 12:05:54 PM
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| Wow. I was just discussing this whole thing with my fiance last night, and about how I thought I remembered Fluffy actually saying that it bothered Tim to be called Timmy. Thanks for digging up the thread! |
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KevinLesko
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Posted - 02/26/2005 : 1:52:29 PM
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| Thanks for posting that Silky, I was trying to find an old interview were TR said that only his Mother called him Timmy. I mean it obviously bugs him... anyone who's been to a show recently has probably heard him say that he changed his name to Rebecca so that that no one can yell out TIMMAH anymore. Let's all please respect TR's wishes. |
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Hopeful Rolling Waves
Alien Abductee
South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 02/26/2005 : 2:22:32 PM
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| I think I have the first show where he said he wanted to be called Rebecca, and some guy yells out "C'mon Becca!" And in a rather flaming voice, Tim says "Becca is even better." Very amusing. Stop calling him Timmy, he asked nicely. AHAHHAHA |
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GuitarGuy305
Alien Abductee
USA
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Posted - 02/26/2005 : 8:45:43 PM
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| I think it's pretty sad that people pay money to go to TR shows, just to fuck with him. I mean, if they're calling him Timmah, and then he jokingly says his name is Rebecca, and then they call him Becca, they are obviously just there to disrespect him. |
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guitarisPIMP
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Posted - 02/27/2005 : 3:30:40 PM
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| I'm sure most of them go for the music, and are just so trashed that they don't really have any sense of respect for people. Not a very uncommon thing to happen, although still a very disrespectful thing to go to a show so trashed that you can't show the performer the respect he deserves. |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
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Posted - 03/01/2005 : 1:03:25 PM
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| i don't understand getting that wasted at shows. you can get drunk and disorderly anywhere. a performer only plays at one place at a time. so. . .why go out of your way to pay for a show, get wasted enough to probably not clearly remember, and piss people off in the process? |
death to false metal. |
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guitarisPIMP
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Posted - 03/01/2005 : 5:14:08 PM
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And it's not like alcohol really enhances the music to any degree.
Oh god i just realized if they legalized marijuana, it'd be near impossible NOT to get high if you went to a concert. |
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PJK
Alien Abductee
USA
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Posted - 03/01/2005 : 7:41:56 PM
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Never thought I would say this but I agree with you 100% dan! I don't know why people get drunk at shows.
When I was at the Dave and Friends concert there was a couple of teenage kids in front of me just sitting there smoking joint after joint. Everyone else was standing, the show was rocking and I remember wondering why the hell that couple even came. The pot wasn't adding to their musical experience. What a waste of ticket money. At least they weren't yelling out things.
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guitarisPIMP
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Posted - 03/01/2005 : 9:42:32 PM
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| Pot is different than alcohol. If people wanna get stoned, so be it. At least marijuana doesn't induce loud, aggressive, obnoxious behavior. Its the people that drink their asses off that i can't stand. |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
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Posted - 03/01/2005 : 11:13:36 PM
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| i think i agree. pot doesn't really get in anyone's way, as far as concerts are concerned. |
death to false metal. |
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Hopeful Rolling Waves
Alien Abductee
South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 03/02/2005 : 11:09:25 AM
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I have a live copy of You Are My Sanity that some shithead screams every 10 seconds for thefirst 40 or so seconds of the song. How can you be listening if you're screaming at the top of your lungs?
I hink European audiences are much better than American audiences, from what I gather at least. I recently got some Radiohead DVDs of shows I saw in NYC and Camden, NJ, and the audiences fucking yell the whole time. Then, I got Glastonbury Festival 2003 which has tons more people and they generally quietly listen to the music, as loud as it is. Just another reason to hate this country and allthe shitheads in it. |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
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Posted - 03/02/2005 : 1:28:50 PM
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i don't think bad audiences are a reason to hate a country, but yeah. i don't understand, either, shouting during the song, especially at the performer. what's the matter? don't they like music?
that happened to me, my last gig. the audience was shitty. i don't demand total undivided attention. if someone's talking a lot, fine. i usually don't notice. but when you're loud enough to distract me while i'm playing, then chances are one of us needs to be somewhere else. and it's not like i'm easily distracted playing, either. as it was, i finished the song right there and left without saying a word. of course, i had to go back later pick my shit up, but there were people playing after me (a dave matthews imitation group) so i just waited until the place was cleared out. most of the people were there to see the other band, and most of those people are clowns. i haven't done a show with them since, because, as i told them "your fans are assholes." |
death to false metal. |
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Hopeful Rolling Waves
Alien Abductee
South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 03/03/2005 : 12:33:32 PM
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Nice work Dan P.
I have a ton of Tim live shows, and only one concert in which he stops playing and yells at this one guys during As Far As We Can See. It amazes me how people could be such douchebags. I've only done open mics myself, so I like when people pay no attention to me, AHAHHA, but for a guy like Tim, it's inexcusable. The show I saw Him at in Teaneck NJ, there were about 30 of us glued to Tim, and the rest of the people at the club were yacking it up hardcore at the bar, fucking unbelievable. |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
3776 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2005 : 6:31:38 PM
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| i have heard of the teaneck gig, and i would have loved to be there. |
death to false metal. |
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GuitarGuy305
Alien Abductee
USA
2007 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2005 : 7:13:12 PM
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Never been there, but every DVD/Video I've ever seen of a concert in Ireland has had a great crowd. David Gray's Live At The Point is a great example. Also Garth Brooks had a concert there with a great crowd.
I'm always disappointed at crowds at shows I go to. With tix as expensive as they are, why spend 6 bucks a beer and get wasted and not enjoy the music? |
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Hopeful Rolling Waves
Alien Abductee
South Sandwich Islands
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
3776 Posts |
Posted - 03/05/2005 : 4:28:05 PM
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| it would only make me angry. |
death to false metal. |
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Hopeful Rolling Waves
Alien Abductee
South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 03/05/2005 : 4:49:45 PM
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| You're kidding right? It's soundboard audio, you can't hear the mindless banter in the background. It's a pretty good DVD other than the crappy menus and chapter breaks. |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
3776 Posts |
Posted - 03/05/2005 : 8:30:59 PM
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| oh. well then hell yeah i want it. |
death to false metal. |
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guitarisPIMP
Yak Addict
Niue
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Posted - 03/05/2005 : 9:53:42 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Hopeful Rolling Waves
The show I saw Him at in Teaneck NJ,
hahaha Him in caps, eh? Well, I guess he is a God... |
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Hopeful Rolling Waves
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South Sandwich Islands
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Erich
Fluffy-Esque
USA
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Posted - 03/10/2005 : 10:45:51 AM
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Here it goes.
I used to call tim Timmy, becauise i heard dave call him that. My voice is forever preserved on a boot saying that, though which one i'll never tell. I heard he didnt like it, so I stopped. I started telling people the same thing, but... well, you know.
So, Ive learned one thing over the past few years of me taking certain shit too seriously. If you wish to educate people as to how certain things are, do it, but do it once. I stopped telling people the tim/timmy thing cause i want to seperate myself from it, but if you tell someone once and they dont care, what are you supposed to do about it? bitch? then you look like an idiot, like i have many times in the past.
with that said, good to see Xar back. I nop longer go to nancies, but Waldo has my utmost respect. BluCow is also a highly intelligent person, and for that i respect him, even if i dont agree with him on occasion. |
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Fluffy
Administrator
USA
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Posted - 03/24/2005 : 03:53:17 AM
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Well sorry to dredge up this SORRY fucking excuse for a thread, but it's a funny story that has me LOL. I was trying to catch up on all the missed threads and I was reading this one and had decided to leave it alone because as Erich so nicely put it, "tell people once and then go about your business". Knowing I had done this eons ago I read on out of sheer curiosity(albiet MORBID)to see where it would end up. I got to the post where DanP "almost" conceded in what I read as a sarcastic tone with....
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i guess i was unaware that tim reynolds told you he doesn't like the name timmy. if he has, then i have to concede. if he hasn't, you're only speculating based on his actions, and i don't accept your speculation as fact because it hasn't been presented to you as such. i am "accepting it" for what it is. it's your interpretation of what he thinks through his actions. nothing more. nothing less. unless tim has the words "do not call me timmy" or something else that expressly indicates that he does like "timmy" you really don't know, do you?
As I read this I thought to myself "ACTUALLY I DO!!" So I set about a 45 minute odyssey trying to find the thread from 3 or 4 years ago where I posted that exact story. Well I eventually found it and returned to this thread to link it here. As I scanned the thread for the the pertinent quote from Dan P to respond to I discovered that had I just read a bit further on the thread Silky would have answered my question and I wouldn't have WASTED 45 minutes locating the exact same thread. All I could do was laugh, out loud, LITERALLY!
So, for the record, TR has voiced to me on NUMEROUS occasions that he hates being called Timmy. From his own mouth he has told me that it drives him crazy and he wished people other than Dave and his family would not call him that. It is the reason behind his constant changing of names. He changes it onstage to shut people up who constantly yell it. It annoys him. Kevin is also correct, there is an interview somewhere where he mentions it himself if you don't want to take my word for it. BUT my friends, you can locate that on your own as I have spent far to much of my TIMe already on this pointless and useless thread and subject. Once again I refer to Erich's comments..
TR does not like being called Timmy, by his own mouth he has spoken these words to me. Therefore I put it out there. You can call him what you like, he won't punch you out for calling him Timmy, but there is no more certain way to annoy him than by calling him THAT NAME. For the record, Dave was calling him Timmy long before South Park, Timmy just morphed into Timmah for drunk people after South Park made the phrase so famous.
I have now said it and beyond that you are free to do as you like, respect his wishes or NOT! |
Peace & Keep the Faith
Fluffy         
"THE MUSIC BUSINESS IS A CRUEL AND SHALLOW MONEY TRENCH-- A LONG PLASTIC HALLWAY WHERE THIEVES AND PIMPS RUN FREE AND GOOD MEN DIE LIKE DOGS. THERE'S ALSO A NEGATIVE SIDE..." -Hunter S. Thompson |
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Fluffy
Administrator
USA
10739 Posts |
Posted - 03/24/2005 : 04:33:43 AM
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| WOW, would you look at that, I did that without calling anyone an asshole, shitbag, bitch, doucebag, moron, fuckstick, pussy, cunt, dumbshit, twit, twat, limpdick, blowhard, cocksucker, motherfucker, pisshead, dolt, dumbass, prick, idiot, lamo, self-absorbed, petty, crybaby!! I guess my sister is right. I also like the idea of agreeing to disagree and being cordial about it. Wish MORE people DID!! |
Peace & Keep the Faith
Fluffy
"THE MUSIC BUSINESS IS A CRUEL AND SHALLOW MONEY TRENCH-- A LONG PLASTIC HALLWAY WHERE THIEVES AND PIMPS RUN FREE AND GOOD MEN DIE LIKE DOGS. THERE'S ALSO A NEGATIVE SIDE..." -Hunter S. Thompson |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
3776 Posts |
Posted - 03/24/2005 : 10:40:51 AM
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you missed the part where i take back everything i said, because it turns out i was wrong. but i guess it wouldn't have done much for your effort to make me look like a bad guy.
also, i find the fact that you think because you don't swear or say anything mean it somehow makes you better or puts you above anyone really amusing. at least that's what i got from that last post. |
death to false metal. |
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annapolisguitar
Is Anybody Here?
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Posted - 03/24/2005 : 11:41:23 AM
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| I have always known Tim Reynolds as Tim. As a matter of courtesy and respect I don't know why I would ever call him anything but that. I have never understood the associations people place on artists and then only see/hear them that way like that is who they really are.Not one of us on this thread, with the exception of Fluffy, really knows who Tim really is and what makes him tick. We all, including myself, create elaborate scenarios and images of who and what Tim is. If DM or his family calls him a particular name how does that entitle us to? None of us ar DM or Tim's family. We are his fans and a fan, I would hope, is a supporter of not just the artist but the person to. This whole discussion and its tone seems to take away from the most important thing, Tim's music. |
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
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Posted - 03/24/2005 : 12:34:42 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by dan p.
you missed the part where i take back everything i said, because it turns out i was wrong. but i guess it wouldn't have done much for your effort to make me look like a bad guy.
also, i find the fact that you think because you don't swear or say anything mean it somehow makes you better or puts you above anyone really amusing. at least that's what i got from that last post.
I think he was saying the thing about swearing, so as to keep the atmosphere of debate less heated and less personal. I highly doubt he was trying to make himself appear superior in anyway. Fluffy's way too modest for that. |
Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
3776 Posts |
Posted - 03/24/2005 : 12:51:41 PM
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| yeah, you're probably right. it just came across that way, is all. if that's not what he intended, i apologize. |
death to false metal. |
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