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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
3776 Posts |
Posted - 07/26/2004 : 3:09:19 PM
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it seems to me that aragorn married his cousin.
elrond, arwen's father, had a brother named elros, who was the first king of numenor. and unless i'm reading wrong, aragorn is a direct decendant of the kings of numenor, and thus related directly to elros. that makes elrond his uncle and arwen his cousin. gross. |
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Zachmozach
Fluffy-Esque
USA
1534 Posts |
Posted - 07/26/2004 : 3:28:24 PM
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Ya that's a little gross. Not like it's the first time though. Like all the Royal families of old used to intermarry like that and then didn't Jerry Lee Lewis marry his cousin that was like 13 or something? |
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Macht
Chatterbox
USA
272 Posts |
Posted - 07/26/2004 : 3:45:04 PM
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quote: Originally posted by dan p.
it seems to me that aragorn married his cousin.
elrond, arwen's father, had a brother named elros, who was the first king of numenor. and unless i'm reading wrong, aragorn is a direct decendant of the kings of numenor, and thus related directly to elros. that makes elrond his uncle and arwen his cousin. gross.
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TurnItToLove
Try A Little Harder
USA
97 Posts |
Posted - 07/26/2004 : 5:42:00 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Zachmozach
Ya that's a little gross. Not like it's the first time though. Like all the Royal families of old used to intermarry like that and then didn't Jerry Lee Lewis marry his cousin that was like 13 or something?
yeah, made a great movie though "Great Balls of Fire" |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
3776 Posts |
Posted - 07/26/2004 : 8:15:04 PM
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frankly, i expected more from even half-elves and men of the west. |
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guitarted
Chatterbox
Canada
487 Posts |
Posted - 07/26/2004 : 8:17:23 PM
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this is how you become your own grandpa |
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
4845 Posts |
Posted - 07/27/2004 : 02:20:03 AM
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It makes Elrond his great-great-great-great-great-great-uncle (to the twentieth power). Thereby making Arwen his 20th(give or take) cousin. I think the genetic material that they share, isn't enough to cause any defects in their offspring.
One of my friends told me that it's okay with third cousins or later, but maybe he was trying to convince himself more than me. |
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tericee
Alien Abductee
USA
2579 Posts |
Posted - 07/27/2004 : 04:07:21 AM
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quote: Originally posted by Arthen
It makes Elrond his great-great-great-great-great-great-uncle (to the twentieth power). Thereby making Arwen his 20th(give or take) cousin. I think the genetic material that they share, isn't enough to cause any defects in their offspring.
I agree. But it was more than twenty; Aragorn was a descendant of Elrond's brother Elros through at least thirty-nine generations. (Becuase Aragorn was the 39th in the line of Isildur, who was a few generations himself removed from Elros, but I can't find any references to how many...) |
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Macht
Chatterbox
USA
272 Posts |
Posted - 07/27/2004 : 1:26:46 PM
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quote: Originally posted by guitarted
this is how you become your own grandpa
that was a hilarious episode :P |
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Mave Datthews 85
Try A Little Harder
USA
80 Posts |
Posted - 07/27/2004 : 1:35:22 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Macht
quote: Originally posted by guitarted
this is how you become your own grandpa
that was a hilarious episode :P
yes!
Professor: "Look who's talking, Mr. I'm-My-Own-Grandpa!"
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
3776 Posts |
Posted - 07/27/2004 : 4:44:55 PM
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yeah. i guess. i still don't like it, though. |
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Saint Jude
Alien Abductee
USA
2144 Posts |
Posted - 07/27/2004 : 11:31:24 PM
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/me clearsh throat........
NERDS!!!!!
carry on. |
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
4845 Posts |
Posted - 07/28/2004 : 03:51:26 AM
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It could be a lot worse. There are people who write essays about the potential background on characters. I saw one on Tom Bombadil and how he is a demi-god. |
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guitarted
Chatterbox
Canada
487 Posts |
Posted - 07/28/2004 : 09:17:07 AM
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quote: Originally posted by Macht
quote: Originally posted by guitarted
this is how you become your own grandpa
that was a hilarious episode :P
episode of what? I'm quoting the song
... i'm guessing simpsons |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
3776 Posts |
Posted - 07/28/2004 : 12:16:39 PM
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yeah, i already posted my bombadil theory here. go find it if you want to see it.
demi-god? there are no gods in middle earth or valinor. there are the valar (which men did sometimes mistakenly call gods) and the maiar. in truth, both are more like angelic beings than gods. |
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Macht
Chatterbox
USA
272 Posts |
Posted - 07/28/2004 : 1:00:05 PM
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quote: Originally posted by guitarted
quote: Originally posted by Macht
quote: Originally posted by guitarted
this is how you become your own grandpa
that was a hilarious episode :P
episode of what? I'm quoting the song
... i'm guessing simpsons
nah Futurama |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
3776 Posts |
Posted - 07/28/2004 : 1:10:05 PM
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i'm my own grandpa is from the movies "the stupids" |
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KevinLesko
Alien Abductee
3712 Posts |
Posted - 07/29/2004 : 7:56:33 PM
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quote: /me clearsh throat........
NERDS!!!!!
carry on.
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guitarted
Chatterbox
Canada
487 Posts |
Posted - 07/29/2004 : 9:28:28 PM
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quote: Originally posted by dan p.
i'm my own grandpa is from the movies "the stupids"
yea thats also where i know it from
haha it was funny in that movie
It's an ACTUAL SONG though even before that movie
at least im pretty sure...
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tericee
Alien Abductee
USA
2579 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2004 : 08:42:01 AM
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Yep, it was a song first:
I'm my own grandpa... I'm my own grandpa, It sounds funny, I know, but it really is so, I'm my own grandpa.
Now, many, many years ago when I was 23, I was married to a widow who was pretty as could be; This widow had a grown-up daughter who had hair of red, My father fell in love with her and soon the two were wed; This made my dad my son-in-law and changed my very life, My daughter was now my mother 'cause she was my father's wife.
To complicate the matter, even though it brought me joy, I soon became the father of a bouncing baby boy; My little baby then became a brother-in-law to dad, And, so, became my uncle though it made me very sad; For if he was my uncle then that also made him brother, Of the widow's grown-up daughter who, of course, was my step-mother.
I'm my own grandpa... I'm my own grandpa, It sounds funny, I know, but it really is so, I'm my own grandpa.
Father's wife then had a son that kept him on the run, Now he became my brother, for he was my father's son; My wife was now my mother's mother and it makes me blue, Because although she is my wife, she's my grandmother, too; Now if my wife is my grandmother, then I am her grand-child, For every time I think of it, it nearly drives me wild; And now I have become the strangest case you ever saw, As the husband of my own grandmother; I'm my own grandpa.
I'm my own grandpa... I'm my own grandpa, It sounds funny, I know, but it really is so, I'm my own grandpa.
Moe Jaffe and Dwight Latham, 1947. Based On A Mark Twain Anecdote.
Here's a link to one guy's version of it:
http://www.mossymoran.com/Video%20Clips/My%20Own%20Grandpa.wma |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
3776 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2004 : 10:53:04 AM
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we're ignoring the fact that the heir to the world of men is inbred in a big way. |
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