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Zachmozach
Fluffy-Esque
USA
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Posted - 07/12/2004 : 8:06:37 PM
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Exclusive: Election Day Worries Newsweek
July 19 issue - American counterterrorism officials, citing what they call "alarming" intelligence about a possible Qaeda strike inside the United States this fall, are reviewing a proposal that could allow for the postponement of the November presidential election in the event of such an attack, NEWSWEEK has learned.
The prospect that Al Qaeda might seek to disrupt the U.S. election was a major factor behind last week's terror warning by Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge. Ridge and other counterterrorism officials concede they have no intel about any specific plots. But the success of March's Madrid railway bombings in influencing the Spanish elections—as well as intercepted "chatter" among Qaeda operatives—has led analysts to conclude "they want to interfere with the elections," says one official.
As a result, sources tell NEWSWEEK, Ridge's department last week asked the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel to analyze what legal steps would be needed to permit the postponement of the election were an attack to take place. Justice was specifically asked to review a recent letter to Ridge from DeForest B. Soaries Jr., chairman of the newly created U.S. Election Assistance Commission. Soaries noted that, while a primary election in New York on September 11, 2001, was quickly suspended by that state's Board of Elections after the attacks that morning, "the federal government has no agency that has the statutory authority to cancel and reschedule a federal election." Soaries, a Bush appointee who two years ago was an unsuccessful GOP candidate for Congress, wants Ridge to seek emergency legislation from Congress empowering his agency to make such a call. Homeland officials say that as drastic as such proposals sound, they are taking them seriously—along with other possible contingency plans in the event of an election-eve or Election Day attack. "We are reviewing the issue to determine what steps need to be taken to secure the election," says Brian Roehrkasse, a Homeland spokesman.
—Michael Isikoff
© 2004 Newsweek, Inc.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5411741/site/newsweek
quote: The Justice Department and Department of Homeland Security have begun examining ways to postpone November's presidential election in the event of an attack near election day. This according to a report in Newsweek. Last week the Department of Homeland Security asked the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel to analyze what legal steps would be needed to permit the cancellation and rescheduling of the election.
This came in response to a request from the chief of the newly created US Election Assistance Commission for Congress to pass emergency legislation to empower the Commission to cancel and reschedule elections.
A spokesman for the Department of Homeland Security told Newsweek "We are reviewing the issue to determine what steps need to be taken to secure the election."
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/07/12/1345243 |
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Macht
Chatterbox
USA
272 Posts |
Posted - 07/12/2004 : 8:37:51 PM
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not cancelling, only delaying |
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Zachmozach
Fluffy-Esque
USA
1534 Posts |
Posted - 07/12/2004 : 8:41:48 PM
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no canceling and resheduling if you want to get technical. |
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tericee
Alien Abductee
USA
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Posted - 07/15/2004 : 10:04:24 AM
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Interesting... I'll have to figure out what I think about that.
On the one had, if the purpose of a terrorist action was to postpone the elections, then doing just that gives the terrorist satisfaction.
On the other hand, depending on what/where the terrorist act was, there might be a lot of people that were planning to vote and don't get to because of being a) injured, b) kept from mass transit, or c) working -- in whatever capaicity -- in reponse to the terrorist act.
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Macht
Chatterbox
USA
272 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2004 : 10:22:37 AM
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I would have to agree with you Teri. Just delaying the election would be lowering ourself and giving our enemies satisfaction.
I would like to think that i'ts not for the benefit of any side for the election. That would just be filthy |
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Zachmozach
Fluffy-Esque
USA
1534 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2004 : 6:28:06 PM
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The guy who wrote the article about this in Newsweek was on the daily show the other night and he had some interesting things to say. I think the correspondant had some better things to say. He said that what we should do is just take away voting from all states that are terrorist targets... Namely California, Oregon, Washington, Arizona, and basically the Northeast. Those are all of course the Democrat states. Then he said that those left in the republican states will be given 2 votes to make up for the other states. Then he goes on to talk about the electronic voting machines and how they won't leave a paper trail and how much better that is. It was pretty funny.
The guy who actually wrote the article though was talking about how this has spawned conspiricy theories like crazy. He basically noted that the day of the 9-11 attacks there was an election taking place in New York and that's how this whole thing got spawned. Was that they had delayed their elections because of the attack. So the question came up about what happens if we are attacked? They talked a little bit about Spain and the attack there. They talked about how like 98% of the people there were already against the war and wanted Spain to pull out. So they elected a socialist candidate because of that fact alone pretty much. They didn't think that the bombing really had a large impact on the election because people already were against the war. Then they talked a little bit about what effect a bombing would have here. Would it sway people one way or the other? The thing is though is that both the democratic and Republican policies that have been formed on the war are almost identical. I mean when the democrats got together recently they basically said that we are staying in Iraq we just want to include the UN and NATO. So I don't think it will sway people one way or the other. Besides if you talk to a republican they will tell you Bush is going to keep the country safer and end terrorism and it you talk to democrats they'll say the same thing for their side.
The way I feel is that if there is a significant attack which limits the countries ability to elect someone. That means that it would alter the election in an unfair manner such as inhibiting people from voting or taking out the capabilties to proccess votes the election should be delayed. However no one wants the election to be delayed. I just all runs smoothly so we can elect one of the jackasses into office and piss and moan for 4 years about who we elected. |
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Mave Datthews 85
Try A Little Harder
USA
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Posted - 07/19/2004 : 09:57:01 AM
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20 bucks says our wonderful (un)administration is behind all this. it's just bush trying to save his sorry little ass. how convenient would it be for him if there indeed was an attack? then he could just jump and basically say "i told ya so!" and then the war would look justified and he'd save the world and be the hero again, JUST like after 9/11 (when he looked like the good guy - he loves that).
how sick is it that i don't even know what to believe anymore? this country - no, the WORLD - has be come so increasingly fucked up because of our administration. everyday i hear about more and more lies that just pass so freely through our government, right under our noses, most of which we will probably never know about. "Land Of the Free"? EXCUSE ME?!
It is simply amazing how hate and greed rule the world.
shit... a political thread. |
y helo thar!ˇ!ˇ |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
3776 Posts |
Posted - 07/19/2004 : 12:15:49 PM
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if someone is going to attack, changing the fucking date won't stop it. they'll just change the date of the attack. |
death to false metal. |
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therippa
Fluffy-Esque
Kazakhstan
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Posted - 07/19/2004 : 12:28:10 PM
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I thought the Daily Show did a fabulous job at covering this last week (as always).
When Jon Stewart said this is just another step to making Bush "Caesar" I almost pissed myself.
btw, did anyone catch Lewis Black on it last week? When he rang the dinner bell I was laughing so hard snot was falling out of my nose. |
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Mave Datthews 85
Try A Little Harder
USA
80 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2004 : 12:24:51 PM
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daily show rules. |
y helo thar!ˇ!ˇ |
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therippa
Fluffy-Esque
Kazakhstan
1099 Posts |
Posted - 07/22/2004 : 4:15:29 PM
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Found this today, thought it was funny
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