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GuitarGuy610
Is Anybody Here?
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 Posted - 01/04/2004 : 3:08:48 PM
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Guys, gcom over at dmbtabs.com is arguing against me, saying that Tim Reynolds
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"has absolutely no good feel for melody, no sense for it...his solo's are just a million notes and that's pathetic. Everything is about playing a million notes because he can, not because he should. It sounds like garbage! Everyone blows their load over it ... none of you irrationally listening worshippers would have a clue who that overglorified clown is."
I have been trying to set gcom (elliot) in his place, but if you guys could help post some support over there it would be great!
The thread is here: http://www.dmbtabs.com/boards/viewtopic.php?p=106326#106320
come support Timmy! |
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KevinLesko
Alien Abductee
3712 Posts |
Posted - 01/04/2004 : 3:31:09 PM
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| oh man, I read that page and I just don't think there is any point trying to deal with that guy... you basically laid it down for him, and he is still trying to argue. You already made him look like a fool by inserting (opinion) next to all of his points. He just seems like the kind of guy to me that will never change his mind or admit to being wrong. I seriously doubt that he has even listened to much TR, I can tell this because the one solo that he mentions is a Dave song solo. |
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DMBFreak84
Is Anybody Here?
43 Posts |
Posted - 01/04/2004 : 3:32:17 PM
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Originally posted by KevinLesko
oh man, I read that page and I just don't think there is any point trying to deal with that guy... you basically laid it down for him, and he is still trying to argue. You already made him look like a fool by inserting (opinion) next to all of his points. He just seems like the kind of guy to me that will never change his mind or admit to being wrong. I seriously doubt that he has even listened to much TR, I can tell this because the one solo that he mentions is a Dave song solo.
he's really too thinkheaded and close minded to accept the fact that tim owns |
"I apologize for my guitar refusing all tuning commands"
http://no-other.org |
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GuitarGuy610
Is Anybody Here?
8 Posts |
Posted - 01/04/2004 : 3:42:25 PM
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yeah, hes a asshole, as far as I can see (sorry, lol) esp. with the "president of nDMB discussion" in his signature, like hes big stuff. Some people just never learn.
Rock on Timmy! |
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PJK
Alien Abductee
USA
4159 Posts |
Posted - 01/04/2004 : 3:49:39 PM
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Ditto what Kevin said. I didn't go over to look because that kind of thing just gets me ticked off, so whats the point?
TIM doesn't need defending GuitarGuy, I am sure he appreciates it that you tried to do that, but don't sweat it. I know I get kind of annoyed when it seems like he isn't getting the credit he deserves but in the end its all opinion and everyone is entitled to their own.
Fluffy always had a good come back about opinion but damn if I can think of it now.
Really, just relax and don't let it worry you. Trust me, TIM could care less. |
"It is hard enough to remember my opinions, without also remembering my reasons for them!"Friedrich Nietzsche |
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GuitarGuy610
Is Anybody Here?
8 Posts |
Posted - 01/04/2004 : 4:25:18 PM
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| Yeah, I just wish he could agree that its his opinion and that everyone can have their own. its getting worse and even more hopeless overe here, lol. |
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DMBFreak84
Is Anybody Here?
43 Posts |
Posted - 01/04/2004 : 4:32:30 PM
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| the one thing that ticks me off about that kid is he thinks he knows everything there is to know about the music industry |
"I apologize for my guitar refusing all tuning commands"
http://no-other.org |
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Zachmozach
Fluffy-Esque
USA
1534 Posts |
Posted - 01/04/2004 : 6:03:15 PM
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| Yeah, I've been accussed of musical elitism before, but this guy really takes the cake. Just sad that he can't just accept the music for what it is and enjoy, but he has to make the music meaningless by analyzing it to death, and trying to assign some definate value to something that is so relitive. All in all ridiculous. |
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PJK
Alien Abductee
USA
4159 Posts |
Posted - 01/04/2004 : 7:13:30 PM
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Ok, you guys got my curiosity up so I went over to have a look for myself and what can I say? That guy is the east end of a horse going west!
Seriously, we all know what kind of musician TIM is. Guitar Guy, you were actually starting to get to that guy, did you notice how his language changed? If he really knew what he was talking about he wouldn't have gotten so defensive. He is really not worth wasting your time with.
I think this thread should just end. Actually, that thread should end, then this one wouldn't have to continue. LOL |
"It is hard enough to remember my opinions, without also remembering my reasons for them!"Friedrich Nietzsche |
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prsmartin
Yak Addict
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GuitarGuy610
Is Anybody Here?
8 Posts |
Posted - 01/04/2004 : 9:57:23 PM
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LOL prsmartin! I just saw your post on the thread that was great! I seconded it...i'm still laughing over that- thats awesome dude!  |
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prsmartin
Yak Addict
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victorwootenfan
Alien Abductee
USA
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PJK
Alien Abductee
USA
4159 Posts |
Posted - 01/04/2004 : 10:36:33 PM
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Matt, I just had to go see what you posted! Well done! That guy isn't on your level so don't expect much if he replies. I am not going back to see, I kind of had enough of that, but I am glad I got to read what you posted!
To all: even though you couldn't change Elliot's mind, I think it says something about your respect for TIM and his music, that at least you tried. You guys are great!
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"It is hard enough to remember my opinions, without also remembering my reasons for them!"Friedrich Nietzsche |
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DMBFreak84
Is Anybody Here?
43 Posts |
Posted - 01/04/2004 : 11:57:44 PM
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Originally posted by PJK
Matt, I just had to go see what you posted! Well done! That guy isn't on your level so don't expect much if he replies. I am not going back to see, I kind of had enough of that, but I am glad I got to read what you posted!
To all: even though you couldn't change Elliot's mind, I think it says something about your respect for TIM and his music, that at least you tried. You guys are great!
we just love tim, what can i say  |
"I apologize for my guitar refusing all tuning commands"
http://no-other.org |
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KevinLesko
Alien Abductee
3712 Posts |
Posted - 01/05/2004 : 02:37:30 AM
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In one of that idiot's posts he mentions, in so many words, that Tim leeches off Dave. This is yet another example of this guy's ignorance because here is a quotation from Tim himself:
"I'm not going to call him up and say, "Hey Dave, can we do an acoustic tour?" That would be crazy. He's so much bigger now than he was the last time we did the acoustic shows. On my part, it would be a sell-out move, because it's not what I want to do. And I could just sail along into the big time on Dave's name - John Mayer is totally copping that sound and living off that. I've already gotten what I need from working with Dave, spiritually. But I knew I had to go out and do my own work" - Tim Reynolds
That right there is not opinion, it is a direct quotation from Tim Reynolds on the subject about which this Eliot guy opinionates himself.
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rubylith
Fluffy-Esque
1915 Posts |
Posted - 01/05/2004 : 10:26:43 AM
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victorwootenfan
Alien Abductee
USA
2128 Posts |
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PJK
Alien Abductee
USA
4159 Posts |
Posted - 01/05/2004 : 9:28:35 PM
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| Matt, just wondering, is the Issac over there the same one who used to post here? |
"It is hard enough to remember my opinions, without also remembering my reasons for them!"Friedrich Nietzsche |
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Fluffy
Administrator
USA
10739 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2004 : 12:40:54 AM
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How ironic PJK, I was reading this thread(I have not visited the thread on the other board)and thinking that what has been said about the discussion reminds me alot of the problems I encountered with Isaac back in the "GOD" post many moons ago. Opinions vs facts, defensive attacks instead of standing up for your position. blah blah blah take it from me, looks like you have gotten yourself into a similar "no win" situation. Good luck, I know how frustrating and sometimes infuriating it can be. Why are people so unwilling to recognize their words are only THEIR opinions and not provable facts. It's just so bizarre. As I was reading this thread from beginning to end I kept thinking of my thread with Isaac that led to his eventual absence from our community. Boy was I surprised to see his name in the last post on this thread as I was reading it and being reminded of my similar situation.
For the record, from personal experience, in this kind of situation, ganging up on him will not help the situation. It will only make him more defensive and strengthen his resolve that he is right and EVERYONE else is wrong. If the one-on-one approach isn't working then ganging up would probably only make it worse. I found with Isaac that the format(typing on a message board) got in the way and offered to have a phone conversation with him about the subjects at hand. Sometimes you can get alot further with a one-on-one(actual) conversation than over the internet. It's alot easier to not listen to the otherside over the internet. In a REAL discussion(if they are actual willing to listen)can be alot more productive. That's just my 2 cents. |
Peace & Keep the Faith
Fluffy         
"THE MUSIC BUSINESS IS A CRUEL AND SHALLOW MONEY TRENCH-- A LONG PLASTIC HALLWAY WHERE THIEVES AND PIMPS RUN FREE AND GOOD MEN DIE LIKE DOGS. THERE'S ALSO A NEGATIVE SIDE..." -Hunter S. Thompson |
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
4845 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2004 : 02:06:40 AM
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| I'm extremely amused at how the gentlmen, Elliott?, thinks that by becoming a session player, you've succeeded as a musician... |
Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
cbenc41@hotmail.com |
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DMBFreak84
Is Anybody Here?
43 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2004 : 07:22:12 AM
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| i love how people think they know what melody is, and that tim cant write any |
"I apologize for my guitar refusing all tuning commands"
http://no-other.org |
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rubylith
Fluffy-Esque
1915 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2004 : 10:06:43 AM
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heres a proven fact that tim CAN write melody,
its called "Smile"
oh wait what about "Los Alamos is Burning"
oh and "Floresensce"
umm there is more umm what about "doom"
hey i almost forgot, "chatterbox"
letting go, hopeful heresey, breathign space, you are my santity....
the list goes on, so once again i must stress, this fool obviosuly does not have ears, or possibly he suffers from some sort of mental disorder, or it could be him being a cold hearted republican, heh anyway...
tim you rock, your melodies are unlike anything I have heard, and you continue to inspire me everyday...
thats enough proof for anyone |
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bugman96
Chatterbox
148 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2004 : 2:40:54 PM
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| Just ignore him. I've been reading the dmbtabs boards for a while and occasionally posting...I think that that gcom person gets off on pushing other people's buttons. He's just an ass. |
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dick mountjoy
Chatterbox
USA
176 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2004 : 6:54:04 PM
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i have to say he's right. whenever i hear 'after the dust settles' or 'los alamos is burning' i just wish TIM would slow down the song a little bit.
moron. |
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DMBFreak84
Is Anybody Here?
43 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2004 : 7:47:30 PM
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Originally posted by dick mountjoy
i have to say he's right. whenever i hear 'after the dust settles' or 'los alamos is burning' i just wish TIM would slow down the song a little bit.
moron.
but that is what makes the song, los alamos is slow anyways until about halfway through the song |
"I apologize for my guitar refusing all tuning commands"
http://no-other.org |
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dick mountjoy
Chatterbox
USA
176 Posts |
Posted - 01/07/2004 : 7:19:33 PM
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| I think you missed the heavy use of sarcasm |
"Go Banana!" - Ralph Wiggum |
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DMBFreak84
Is Anybody Here?
43 Posts |
Posted - 01/07/2004 : 8:04:38 PM
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Originally posted by dick mountjoy
I think you missed the heavy use of sarcasm
i didnt see the moron below it, my bad  |
"I apologize for my guitar refusing all tuning commands"
http://no-other.org |
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GuitarGuy305
Alien Abductee
USA
2007 Posts |
Posted - 01/10/2004 : 6:01:21 PM
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GuitarGuy610, I see you've been around for a while on DMBtabs.com, with over 500 posts. Did you come up with the name GuitarGuy610 yourself? If so, that is an odd coincidence b/c 610 is exactly twice 305. I'd love to know if I inspired someones screen name
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
4845 Posts |
Posted - 01/10/2004 : 11:46:43 PM
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| Or maybe he likes the Taylor 610 model... |
Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
cbenc41@hotmail.com |
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Jay
Alien Abductee
Vatican City
2279 Posts |
Posted - 01/11/2004 : 2:49:05 PM
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| Or maybe they're the same guy? Like when a guy named Jay Martin came on the board and enthuTIMsiast (jason martin) said, "This is weird" Jay's are cool, I guess. |
"Hey man...you smell..."
"Oh yeah?"
"yeah...like dinner..." |
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
4845 Posts |
Posted - 01/12/2004 : 02:00:33 AM
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JAY's are cool eh?
LOTW!
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Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
cbenc41@hotmail.com |
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GuitarGuy610
Is Anybody Here?
8 Posts |
Posted - 01/12/2004 : 10:05:01 PM
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Originally posted by GuitarGuy305
GuitarGuy610, I see you've been around for a while on DMBtabs.com, with over 500 posts. Did you come up with the name GuitarGuy610 yourself? If so, that is an odd coincidence b/c 610 is exactly twice 305. I'd love to know if I inspired someones screen name
Adam
Hey, actually, I did come up with guitarguy610 a year or so ago when I was looking for a new email address. As someone else guessed, the 610 is the model of Taylor guitar I wanted for the longest time. I guess I should change it though, because over christmas I bought a Larrivee LV-03RE and I love it more than any taylor guitar I have ever played :P I don't think GuitarGuyLV03RE is as good...kinda looks like guitar guy lover-somethin.... yikes.. |
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
4845 Posts |
Posted - 01/13/2004 : 02:08:37 AM
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| That's funny. For a long time I wanted a Taylor too, but I played a few Martins and ended up getting one instead. |
Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
cbenc41@hotmail.com |
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Something Nasty
Is Anybody Here?
USA
34 Posts |
Posted - 01/14/2004 : 12:56:24 AM
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| obviously the guy has never listened to Tim's albums. And he says that his notes are all out of place when he solos with Dave. He should go back and listen to Tim's solo in #41 L@LC. Its the most beautiful sound in the world. Tim rules alone and in my opinion rules on backup guitar any day. |
"Yo, I'm Cuban B!"
"Yes, Cuban B!" |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
3776 Posts |
Posted - 01/14/2004 : 10:59:34 AM
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i love this kind of guy. he took a couple of high school music classes and now he thinks he knows something. it's hilarious. i noticed a lot of dave matthews fans do this. they see that dmb is (or was) widely accepted as good music among music students and professors, so they think they somehow know more about music than the next guy. and that might be true, if the next guy is a fucking chimp. i can't recall hearing any solo of tim's that didn't quite fit. he uses some of modes, which anyone who really knows anything about music knows about and can recognize. saying that the notes don't fit because they don't start and end on the tonic or submediant note proves that he really knows nothing about it. sometimes i'm not a fan of the way he phrases some of his melodies, but that's just a difference of taste.
i'd go tell this chump what's up, but really, i don't feel like making an account on another board just to show some guy how much of a douche eater he is. |
death to false metal. |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
3776 Posts |
Posted - 01/14/2004 : 11:01:05 AM
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| also, it'd be good to point out that he uses fucking tabs to learn music. lame. |
death to false metal. |
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DMBFreak84
Is Anybody Here?
43 Posts |
Posted - 01/14/2004 : 11:04:19 PM
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Originally posted by dan p.
also, it'd be good to point out that he uses fucking tabs to learn music. lame.
hey now, dont go knocking tabs  |
"I apologize for my guitar refusing all tuning commands"
http://no-other.org |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
3776 Posts |
Posted - 01/15/2004 : 11:00:10 AM
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| ugh. tab is useless. it tells you where to put your fingers and that's about it. i hate how it has no rhythmic notation at all, so you have no possible way of knowing what it sounds like without the music playing. it's also the worst because unlike real notation, there's no way to learn anything about the music besides where the fingers are when it's played. you're better off doing it by ear. the only thing tab should be used for is to be put into actual notation. |
death to false metal. |
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DMBFreak84
Is Anybody Here?
43 Posts |
Posted - 01/15/2004 : 7:06:26 PM
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Originally posted by dan p.
ugh. tab is useless. it tells you where to put your fingers and that's about it. i hate how it has no rhythmic notation at all, so you have no possible way of knowing what it sounds like without the music playing. it's also the worst because unlike real notation, there's no way to learn anything about the music besides where the fingers are when it's played. you're better off doing it by ear. the only thing tab should be used for is to be put into actual notation.
to each his own |
"I apologize for my guitar refusing all tuning commands"
http://no-other.org |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
3776 Posts |
Posted - 01/17/2004 : 9:08:11 PM
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| agreed. |
death to false metal. |
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NeverKillADream
Yak Addict
USA
652 Posts |
Posted - 01/18/2004 : 09:43:06 AM
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WOW. I just read all that over at dmbtabs, a board i usually enjoy, but that, that was insane, but yeah i had to throw in my two cents as well, i cant get over that, maybe he was thinking of the wrong TIM? like Tim Mcgraw maybe.... must be some mixup.
http://www.dmbtabs.com/boards/viewtopic.php?p=114852#114852 |
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GuitarGuy610
Is Anybody Here?
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Posted - 01/18/2004 : 10:33:37 PM
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| yeah, I saw your message, lol. I found it funny that you joined a year before matty did and he called you a n00b! :P lol |
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NeverKillADream
Yak Addict
USA
652 Posts |
Posted - 01/18/2004 : 11:04:59 PM
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| Dude I Burned him so bad, He thrashed me called me a newbie, he didnt notice i joined DMBTabs in 2002, i year before him, then, i proceded to Rip him up, it was great, yall check it out, lmao, thanks man |
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TurnItToLove
Try A Little Harder
USA
97 Posts |
Posted - 01/19/2004 : 10:46:18 AM
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wow i wish i'd seen that fight sooner joe i woulda joined!....dammit that guy pisses me off..o well at least its over now..it better be over or some ignorant asses will be kicked  |
-Kaitlyn-
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Locarius
Is Anybody Here?
Canada
21 Posts |
Posted - 01/19/2004 : 12:17:40 PM
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| Do you guys realize that this is the internet? What people say doesnt really matter. |
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
4845 Posts |
Posted - 01/19/2004 : 12:52:22 PM
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Do you realize this is Earth? What people say doesn't mean two shits.
It's still fun to argue though. |
Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
cbenc41@hotmail.com |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
3776 Posts |
Posted - 01/19/2004 : 2:46:25 PM
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do you realize that this is the internet, and what you said also doesn't matter?
i put in my two cents under the name raistlinmajere. never defy me. |
death to false metal. |
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NeverKillADream
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
3776 Posts |
Posted - 01/19/2004 : 3:13:21 PM
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| this guy's a clown. |
death to false metal. |
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
4845 Posts |
Posted - 01/19/2004 : 4:48:47 PM
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| Damn. That guys a really whiny little piece of work isn't he. |
Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
cbenc41@hotmail.com |
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NeverKillADream
Yak Addict
USA
652 Posts |
Posted - 01/19/2004 : 5:13:40 PM
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| Who me? lmao, Or that Dmbtabs cat.... |
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
4845 Posts |
Posted - 01/19/2004 : 5:28:17 PM
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| No not you, the guy who changed Dan's quote. |
Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
cbenc41@hotmail.com |
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NeverKillADream
Yak Addict
USA
652 Posts |
Posted - 01/19/2004 : 5:41:12 PM
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| Just making sure, lol. yeah I tried to bring peace many times. Tried to get them to "Turn It To Love." |
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GuitarGuy610
Is Anybody Here?
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Posted - 01/19/2004 : 5:55:43 PM
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lol, yeah I found that amusing (in a good way)
I just wish that gcom and Andy would fall with their hands in their pockets....  |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
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Posted - 02/01/2004 : 3:33:51 PM
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| in the interest of keeping my blood pressure stable, i've decided not to post there anymore. |
death to false metal. |
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Help Defend Tim Reynolds!
