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victorwootenfan
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genome
Fluffy-Esque
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 Posted - 10/27/2003 : 08:42:21 AM
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Howie Day does almost the same thing but better.
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Fluffy
Administrator
USA
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Posted - 10/27/2003 : 09:04:11 AM
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Peace & Keep the Faith
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"THE MUSIC BUSINESS IS A CRUEL AND SHALLOW MONEY TRENCH-- A LONG PLASTIC HALLWAY WHERE THIEVES AND PIMPS RUN FREE AND GOOD MEN DIE LIKE DOGS. THERE'S ALSO A NEGATIVE SIDE..." -Hunter S. Thompson |
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
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Posted - 10/27/2003 : 1:11:12 PM
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Originally posted by Fluffy:
Please remember these are personal opinions and really no reflection on Tim Reynolds as an artist or a person.
Yeah, especially the personal opinions of people on Nancies.org. No offense to the people who run it, but lots of people on that board tend to say things that make them look like jackasses. And I bet if someone was to insult Dave on that thread, everyone would jump on them like it was their brother that was being insulted. |
Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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pants_happy
Chatterbox
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Posted - 10/27/2003 : 1:28:42 PM
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Originally posted by genome
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Howie Day does almost the same thing but better.
vwf, if you really wanted to crawl under people's skin, just quote the guy genome quoted and say something like "John Mayer does almost the same thing as Dave but better."
remember, that's if you want to receive death threats from nancies. |
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victorwootenfan
Alien Abductee
USA
2128 Posts |
Posted - 10/27/2003 : 1:58:36 PM
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Originally posted by pants_happy
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Originally posted by genome
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Howie Day does almost the same thing but better.
vwf, if you really wanted to crawl under people's skin, just quote the guy genome quoted and say something like "John Mayer does almost the same thing as Dave but better."
remember, that's if you want to receive death threats from nancies.
I'm on it like a fat man on a hot dog! ;)
Yay for controversy!
Normally i don't like nancies as well, especially the dave discussion part, but i actually met a nancy in person this weekend, he invited me to his party, and he was a really cool guy, and i had a good time. i have more faith in them now, after meeting one, but there still are idiots! |
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Erich
Fluffy-Esque
USA
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Posted - 10/27/2003 : 3:39:38 PM
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therippa
Fluffy-Esque
Kazakhstan
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Posted - 10/27/2003 : 4:47:12 PM
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Insanity over there. vwf, I totally agree with your prespective. No use posting on Nancies though, don't want to get flamed into oblivion.
Oh, and the John Mayer line almost made me piss myself. |
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phousse
Is Anybody Here?
USA
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Posted - 10/27/2003 : 5:08:34 PM
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I'm almost have the opposite but i would'nt go as far as saying I
cant stand Dave Matthews. I'm stopped going to DMB concerts because of no lead guitarist + they stopped jamming out their songs. No they just play the 3 minute songs and end it. I swear i say boyd yawning
cause he had nothing to do. |
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Gravedigger
Try A Little Harder
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Posted - 10/27/2003 : 7:22:23 PM
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Just remember, even the rest of the DMB community makes fun of people on nancies for their views are "DMB is god, nothing else is good"
99% of DMB love tim when plays with DMB, and prob 50% even enjoys solo stuff.
The howie day comment made me laugh, plenty of people loop, but to compare howie and tim is like comparing Radiohead and Justin Timberlake |
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victorwootenfan
Alien Abductee
USA
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pants_happy
Chatterbox
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Posted - 10/28/2003 : 2:05:47 PM
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people took that mayer comment rather civally, i'm quite impressed. as for tim and howie, i agree that they're completely different. but, if tim were as famous as dave, anyone who used a delay pedal, looped anything, or used special effects in general would be accused of copying tim. just like idiots around here, pick up an acoustic guitar (you don't even have to play anything) and right away everyone's like "Hey, it's Dave Matthews". you know, because dave invented the acoustic guitar, and is god. i mean i love the man, but come to grips with reality. and i'll use a smily here to lighten this post up a bit,  , there you go. |
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Silky The Pimp
Alien Abductee
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Posted - 10/28/2003 : 5:15:30 PM
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pick up an acoustic guitar (you don't even have to play anything) and right away everyone's like "Hey, it's Dave Matthews". you know, because dave invented the acoustic guitar, and is god. i mean i love the man, but come to grips with reality.
I agree totally. I think that it's that attitude that is part of what hurts John Mayer in the DMB community. Does he have a similar sound? Sure... but it's possible for someone to be influenced by someone else without "ripping off" the sound. It was only a matter of time before Dave Matthews style began to become a big influence in other, younger songwriters. But I agree with you that not everyone that can hold their own on an acoustic guitar is trying to rip him off.
If it were the case that influence = stealing... every band out there with an electric guitar should catch hell for being "influenced" by Zeppelin, or Nirvana, or PJ etc. |
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Erich
Fluffy-Esque
USA
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Posted - 10/28/2003 : 9:03:59 PM
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Originally posted by Silky The Pimp
I agree totally. I think that it's that attitude that is part of what hurts John Mayer in the DMB community. Does he have a similar sound? Sure... but it's possible for someone to be influenced by someone else without "ripping off" the sound. It was only a matter of time before Dave Matthews style began to become a big influence in other, younger songwriters. But I agree with you that not everyone that can hold their own on an acoustic guitar is trying to rip him off.
If it were the case that influence = stealing... every band out there with an electric guitar should catch hell for being "influenced" by Zeppelin, or Nirvana, or PJ etc.
Zep, Floyd, Sabbath, Metallica (you cant deny their influence)...
BUT, I happen to dislike most other musicians that hold the same singer/songwriter approach as Dave does. Johnson, Mayer, Day, Mraz... Just not my thing. |
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
4845 Posts |
Posted - 10/29/2003 : 7:04:23 PM
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"Too many notes..."
Interesting. It's always neat to watch a thread grow at Nancies. |
Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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victorwootenfan
Alien Abductee
USA
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Katchoo
Try A Little Harder
USA
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Posted - 11/03/2003 : 1:49:10 PM
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Originally posted by Arthen
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Originally posted by Fluffy:
Please remember these are personal opinions and really no reflection on Tim Reynolds as an artist or a person.
Yeah, especially the personal opinions of people on Nancies.org. No offense to the people who run it, but lots of people on that board tend to say things that make them look like jackasses. And I bet if someone was to insult Dave on that thread, everyone would jump on them like it was their brother that was being insulted.
They do. Actually, they tend to take it personally. And then they turn around and try to cushion it with a "but everyone is entitled to their own opinion" line. Whatevah...
Slavish fans suck.
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
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Posted - 11/03/2003 : 1:59:42 PM
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I like how when I brought up the question: "Have any of you ever listened to Tim's acoustic solo material?" the thread died.
Listen to the music and the musician, before you condemn it and say you don't like it! Assclowns...
I'll give it one more shot... |
Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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therippa
Fluffy-Esque
Kazakhstan
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Posted - 11/03/2003 : 7:12:50 PM
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I'm seriously so happy the only time I ever have to go over to nancies is when Dave and whoever is going to be on tour in my part of the country. I tried to resist fanning the flames on the thread, but was given no choice. Let's just be happy threads like these aren't started on anyoneseenthebridge.com, that board is just out of control.
Once everyone on the thread responds to my post of Dave vs. Tim with Tim (and the people say Dave I won't even deal with), things will become clearer. But it won't. SIGH. They are so blinded by lust for Dave and Dave only!
I can't even give a helpful post with some gentle commentary without getting flamed...
http://nancies.org/boards/showthread.php?s=&threadid=154205
If the Tim thread get's any worse I may have to resort to The Chewbacca Defense
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victorwootenfan
Alien Abductee
USA
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
4845 Posts |
Posted - 11/04/2003 : 03:39:53 AM
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Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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Katchoo
Try A Little Harder
USA
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Posted - 11/04/2003 : 2:34:28 PM
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Let's put the nancies thing in perspective. With 26,000+ people on their boards, you can't help but run into some knuckleheads.
There are a lot of people who "don't get" music, and there are also lot of passive listeners. So count yourself lucky that you don't fall into those ranks and can tell some good shit when you hear it.
Screw the haters.
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Katchoo
Try A Little Harder
USA
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Posted - 11/04/2003 : 3:59:45 PM
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Well, I put in my two cents. Don't know if it'll matter at all.
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
4845 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2003 : 02:04:02 AM
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| And the games go on, and NO ONE on the Nancies board has responded when I asked them if they had listened to one of Tim's solo albums. Jeez... |
Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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