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Something Nasty
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Posted - 02/19/2003 :  3:53:05 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is it possible to change a regular asoustic into an electric acoustic(one with an acoustic pickup)?

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Posted - 02/19/2003 :  5:09:29 PM  Show Profile  Send Silky The Pimp an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Indeed it is. You just pick out a pickup that you like and have someone install it. It should cost in the area of $150-$200 installed depending on the pickup you want.

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GuitarGuy305
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Posted - 02/20/2003 :  12:25:02 AM  Show Profile  Send GuitarGuy305 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
You could also buy a soundhole pickup. I had always thought these were shit, but I've been playing with some people that use them, and they get a surprisingly clean crisp sound from them, that actually SOUNDS like an acoustic guitar when its amplified.




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Posted - 02/20/2003 :  04:59:10 AM  Show Profile  Visit pcbTIM's Homepage  Send pcbTIM an AOL message  Reply with Quote
That sounds kewl. I've seen ones that can make your electric sound like an acoustic, but I didn't know that they made 'em the other way around. Does Boss make them by any chance? They always have the best stuff.

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Posted - 02/20/2003 :  09:45:49 AM  Show Profile  Send CPPJames an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I think they're just referring to the fact that you can take an acoustic without a pickup (i.e. a guitar that can't be plugged into an amp) and turn it into one that can be plugged in, by installing a pickup.

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Something Nasty
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Posted - 02/20/2003 :  11:53:19 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cool. I wasn't sure if it was possible, but now I think I will look into converting my guitar. Oh and Kurt Cobain did use an acoustic guitar that had a pickup that played just like an electric with disortion. He used it on the David Bowie cover song The Man Who Sold the World in the Unplugged album. It's pretty cool to watch. Thankyou everyone for your input.

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Posted - 02/20/2003 :  12:15:52 PM  Show Profile  Send CPPJames an AOL message  Reply with Quote
That was a pickup that did that? I thought it was plugged into some sort of amp that handled it.

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Something Nasty
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Posted - 02/20/2003 :  12:25:35 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm not sure, but I figured since the pickup on the guitar was located directly under the strings that was how it worked. Like he would just flip a switch to change between pickups. But I'm just guessing. Anyway, does anyone have any sugestions on a good pickup that I can purchase for the conversion?

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Bustoff
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Posted - 02/20/2003 :  12:28:37 PM  Show Profile  Send Bustoff an AOL message  Reply with Quote
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That was a pickup that did that? I thought it was plugged into some sort of amp that handled it.

You can't plug a guitar into an amp without a pickup. So both are true.

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That sounds kewl. I've seen ones that can make your electric sound like an acoustic, but I didn't know that they made 'em the other way around.

I don't think they do, it's just that when you add distortion to an acoustic, like Cobain did, it pretty much sounds like an electric.
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Posted - 02/20/2003 :  12:28:45 PM  Show Profile  Send Silky The Pimp an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Go with Fishman... their peizo stuff is great and at all ranges of price.

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Something Nasty
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Posted - 02/20/2003 :  12:33:54 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the info!

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CPPJames
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Posted - 02/20/2003 :  2:01:17 PM  Show Profile  Send CPPJames an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I realize you can't plug in a guitar without a pickup, lol. I was just curious if the "control" that did that was driven by the pickup or the amp.

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jmbilbrey
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Posted - 02/20/2003 :  2:02:42 PM  Show Profile  Send jmbilbrey an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I am new to the forum, so everyone please be kind. Fishman pickups are pretty good for the price. But the sad thing is that you have to spend so much money just getting your acoustic guitar to sound like an acoustic guitar when it is amped. Seems a bit ridiculous to me. Though I have fallen prey to the "Gear Monster". Naturally if your guitar is a piece of junk, a Fishman would the way to go because any money you put into it will only make it sound as good as the natural tone. In my experience Piezo pickups suck. They are too magnetic and tinny. And Internal Mics are very qwirky with EQ'ing and what not. Dual sources are great, but very obtrusive if you have to mount an internal preamp. If you have a good guitar and are willing to spend some money on it...check out the K&K Trinity sound system. It blends 3 seperate Acoustic Soundboard Transducers with an internal gooseneck, with an external Preamp. This is a great sound. Other great pickups are LR Baggs IBeam, B-Band A2, Highlander Pickups...and the piece de resistance' The new Taylor Expression System, which I am partial to because I love Taylor Guitars. But those of course are only available on the 2003 Taylors 500 series and up. That is all I have to say for now. Oh and with the risk of making numerous enemies...I actually like John Mayer

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CPPJames
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Posted - 02/20/2003 :  2:06:11 PM  Show Profile  Send CPPJames an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Consider me your enemy! Hahaha, j/k. I actually think he has a decent voice, although raspy at times. His guitar playing is pretty decent too. Overall I like him too, but he's not on my Top 10 list.

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Something Nasty
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Posted - 02/20/2003 :  3:17:36 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just got back from browsing my local guitar shop. They have two sound hole pickups:Seymour Duncan(I think) and a Dean Markley. They also have exspensive ones that need to be installed for around $170. I immediately threw those out because all I have is an Alvarez guitar and it wouldn't make since spending that much on a guitar when the money could be going towards a nicer guitar with a pickup already installed. Don't get me wrong, I love my Alvarez and believe that they are the best guitar for the money. I think I'll go with the Seymour because it is smaller and the cable leading out is less in the way of my pinky finger. It also sounded better when I tested them both out. I believe it costs $70-$80 which is ruffly $20 more than the Dean. I did go to the Fishman site and look at some of their sound hole pickups but couldn't get a price. If anyone could help me it would be appreciated.

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Jay
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Posted - 02/20/2003 :  3:44:56 PM  Show Profile  Send Jay an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I think both of those are reasonable. If you want to go full-assed sometime, try a Sunrise pickup system...pricey but great. I have Fishman's on both of my electric-acoustics, 12 and 6 string, and they sound fine. Of course, they were stock with the instrument. If I had to choose, I'd say go with the more expensive ones...That's generally the rule once you ahve narrowed them down, unless the cheaper one sounds better to you. See it's tough to suggest things like this on a message board cause we can't hear them!

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jmbilbrey
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Posted - 02/20/2003 :  4:25:51 PM  Show Profile  Send jmbilbrey an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Sunrise's are nice...but still a magnetic pickup. How a magnet and circuitry are supposed to replicate an authentic acoustic tone is beyond me. If you have about 3000 dollars try investing in a Pendulum Audio preamp. Now we are talking.

But as far as your fishman price...You can pickup a Fishman Natural (that already has a preamp built in the endpin, but I will still use an external one) for at or around 90 bucks. Figure another 60 for installation and you got a good deal. One preamp I use alot when I am just using my undersaddle pickup is the Yamaha AG Stomp. Has some wonderful presets to give that magnetic piezo the depth and air it so desperately needs.

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Sachyaaam
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Posted - 02/21/2003 :  09:57:46 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just bought a Fishman Rare Earth soundhole pickup. I think the sound is great...very acoustic and clean. I have a Tacoma DR-20 and i think it even sounds better amplified. These pickups can be pricey and come in three models...single coil, dual coil (humbucking) and a blend model which has an internal mic also. I bought the dual coil type and I am really happy with it. If you believe in ebay you can get one for less than 100 dollars (retail is about 150), about the same price as a DM or other type of lower end pickup from a store.
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GuitarGuy305
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Posted - 02/22/2003 :  03:15:39 AM  Show Profile  Send GuitarGuy305 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I love the BBand systems. The first time I heard one, I think installed in a Lowden, I just about creamed in my pants. Very VERY true acoustic tone.




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