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Fluffy
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USA
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Posted - 05/21/2002 :  10:41:17 PM  Show Profile  Send Fluffy an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Although I noticed you no longer have it in your sig, I was delighted to be awoken in my hotel room the other morning of the news that East TIMor is finally FREE!!!! YEA!!!!! I immediately thought of you and wanted to post right then but I have had bad computer problems this tour and very little TIMe for such distractions. Anyway, congrats on your independence. I hope it serves you well. Still hoping for a visit someTIMe, it sounds like a wonderful place.

Peace & Keep the Faith
Fluffy

Evergreen
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Posted - 05/22/2002 :  08:37:06 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well thats worthy of putting it back in my sig! So here it is!! I'm back. Been away from East TIMor since January, but I found my way back. Too weird Fluffy, I was reading the New York TIMes the other day and saw an article about East TIMor's independence. It was one of those "stop in your tracks" kinda things. One of those "WOW" kinda things. One of those ever present synchronicities!!!!!!

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Captain Petersburgh
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Canada
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Posted - 05/22/2002 :  6:45:16 PM  Show Profile  Send Captain Petersburgh an AOL message  Reply with Quote
LET'S HERE IT FOR FREEDOME ME LADS!!!!!!

i'm keepin' TIMe with my own set of keys....
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Jay
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Vatican City
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Posted - 05/22/2002 :  7:58:00 PM  Show Profile  Send Jay an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Free-dome? Sounds like a Japanese baseball stadium......

I HAVE 666!!!!!

Jay
My last name is confusing...It is Spelled Wiegand but is pronounced Weegend...another insult to the English language...
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Jay
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Vatican City
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Posted - 05/22/2002 :  7:59:11 PM  Show Profile  Send Jay an AOL message  Reply with Quote
what the hell!
FREEDOM!!
FREEDOM!!
FREEDOM!!
FREEDOM!!
FREEDOM!!
FREEDOM!!
FREEDOM!!
FREEDOM!!
FREEDOM!!
FREEDOM!!
FREEDOM!!
FREEDOM!!
FREEDOM!!


JOIN ME!!!!!!

Jay
My last name is confusing...It is Spelled Wiegand but is pronounced Weegend...another insult to the English language...
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Fluffy
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USA
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Posted - 05/23/2002 :  06:28:28 AM  Show Profile  Send Fluffy an AOL message  Reply with Quote
FREEDOM!! for East TIMor!!
FREEDOM!! for East TIMor!!
FREEDOM!! for East TIMor!!
FREEDOM!! for East TIMor!!
FREEDOM!! for East TIMor!!
FREEDOM!! for East TIMor!!
FREEDOM!! for East TIMor!!
FREEDOM!! for East TIMor!!
FREEDOM!! for East TIMor!!
FREEDOM!! for East TIMor!!
FREEDOM!! for East TIMor!!
FREEDOM!! for East TIMor!!
FREEDOM!! for East TIMor!!

Glad to see you are back in East TIMor, I am sure you are somehow responsible for their good fortune.

Peace & Keep the Faith
Fluffy
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enthuTIMsiast
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Posted - 05/23/2002 :  08:49:37 AM  Show Profile  Send enthuTIMsiast an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I must be misunderstanding the whole Free EastTimor thing. Someone care to explain?

-what-
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Fluffy
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USA
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Posted - 05/23/2002 :  09:04:08 AM  Show Profile  Send Fluffy an AOL message  Reply with Quote
About 3 or 4 days ago East TIMor finally achieved independence.

East Timor celebrates becoming a nation

Independence finally arrives after long and bloody struggle

Luke Harding, south-east Asia correspondent
Monday May 20, 2002
The Guardian

After a lengthy wait of four-and-a-half centuries, East Timor finally emerged from the shadow of its colonial past last night and became the world's newest nation state, during an emotional midnight independence ceremony in its seaside capital, Dili.
The United Nations secretary general, Kofi Annan, formally handed over authority to East Timor's new government, watched by several heads of state. They included Megawati Sukarnoputri, the president of Indonesia, the country East Timor broke away from after nearly a quarter of a century of brutal oppression.

"I salute you, people of East Timor, for the courage and perseverance you have shown," Mr Annan told an exuberant crowd of thousands of East Timorese. "Yours has not been an easy path to independence. You should be very proud of your achievement."

Shortly after midnight local time East Timor's independence leader, Xanana Gusmao, was formally sworn in as the country's first head of state. Mr Gusmao, a 55-year-old poet and former guerrilla leader, was elected president in a UN supervised vote in April.

"Independence! As a people, as a territory, as a nation! One body, one mind, one wish," he told the crowd, with the country's new red, black and gold flag draped round his neck.

Mr Gusmao immediately struck a conciliatory note towards Indonesia, and promised his people a better future.

Addressing President Megawati directly, he declared: "We warmly welcome your pres ence here among us, not only in your capacity as head of state of the brotherly and neighbouring country, but also as a symbol of the democratic yearnings of the brotherly people of Indonesia."

Earlier, a peacekeeper lowered the blue flag of the UN, which had administered the territory since it voted overwhelmingly for independence in 1999. A platoon of soldiers from East Timor's new defence force then escorted the country's flag on to the stage.

They raised it as a choir sang the new national anthem. The simple ceremony marked the end of four centuries of Portuguese colonial rule, 24 years of Indonesian occupation and two-and-a-half years of interim rule by the UN.

Mr Gusmao, who spent six years in jail in Jakarta, made a point of arriving at the venue with President Megawati. Her presence at the ceremony had been in doubt.

A last-minute diplomatic row with Indonesia appeared to loom when six naval ships were sent to accompany her. They were later withdrawn after the East Timorese government protested. The two leaders held hands and raised them aloft, as the crowd cheered and clapped.

Attending the festivities were the former US president Bill Clinton, who officially repre sented the United States, the Australian prime minister, John Howard, and Portugal's president, Jorge Sampaio.

"Your freedom has been paid for by blood and sacrifice," Mr Clinton said.

Despite yesterday's euphoria East Timor wakes up this morning to a host of problems. The world's 192nd country is also one of its poorest. Some 70% of its people are unemployed, and the illiteracy rate is 43%. The World Bank says the average East Timorese lives on just 55 US cents a day.

"Our independence will have no value if all the people in East Timor continue to live in poverty and continue to suffer all kinds of difficulties," Mr Gusmao admitted in his inaugural speech last night. "We gained our independence to improve our lives." And East Timor's independence came with a heavy price.

Hundreds of thousands of East Timorese were killed during Indonesia's long occupation through forced migration, starvation and murder. Immediately after the vote for secession the Indonesian military and its militias went on the rampage, killing up to 2,000 people and bringing the country's independence struggle to international attention.

East Timor has set up a truth and reconciliation commis sion to reveal past crimes and help its citizens come to terms with them.

Its new leadership says perpetrators should be brought to justice but insists that nation-building, not revenge, should be the government's priority.

Trials are under way in the Indonesian capital of Jakarta to prosecute several military officers involved in the 1999 violence - but many human rights groups say the proceedings amount to a whitewash.

East Timor also wants to prevent disgruntled Indonesian officers from inciting pro-Jakarta militiamen still living in refugee camps in Indonesian West Timor.



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Fluffy
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enthuTIMsiast
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Posted - 05/23/2002 :  12:26:51 PM  Show Profile  Send enthuTIMsiast an AOL message  Reply with Quote
oh, I see.

-what-
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victorwootenfan
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USA
2128 Posts

Posted - 05/23/2002 :  12:51:25 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Free Tibet then!!!!!


on a side note, i though the several freedom chants were for the lyrics of that catchy tune by RATM, entitled "freedom."

"You must be the change you wish to see in the world." -Gandhi
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Fluffy
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Posted - 05/24/2002 :  03:15:09 AM  Show Profile  Send Fluffy an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Indeed, FREE TIBET!!!!!

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Fluffy
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Captain Petersburgh
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Canada
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Posted - 05/24/2002 :  8:47:18 PM  Show Profile  Send Captain Petersburgh an AOL message  Reply with Quote
yes yes. indeed, quite so. (tryin' to sound like a english man)

i'm keepin' TIMe with my own set of keys....
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Jay
Alien Abductee

Vatican City
2279 Posts

Posted - 05/24/2002 :  10:00:48 PM  Show Profile  Send Jay an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I made a wish on the John Lennon wish tree in the RnR Hall of Fame for world peace. JSut thought i'd share that.

Jay
" It's a scavenger hunt in the best of times, a one armed man with a box of dimes. Throw the stick and let the bulldog roll." KJP
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Captain Petersburgh
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Posted - 05/24/2002 :  10:02:21 PM  Show Profile  Send Captain Petersburgh an AOL message  Reply with Quote
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW. that is so sweet.

i'm keepin' TIMe with my own set of keys....
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Jay
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Vatican City
2279 Posts

Posted - 05/24/2002 :  10:05:07 PM  Show Profile  Send Jay an AOL message  Reply with Quote
and that was a really smart ass answer. Dickhead.

Jay
" It's a scavenger hunt in the best of times, a one armed man with a box of dimes. Throw the stick and let the bulldog roll." KJP
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Captain Petersburgh
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Posted - 05/24/2002 :  10:06:29 PM  Show Profile  Send Captain Petersburgh an AOL message  Reply with Quote
sorry

i'm keepin' TIMe with my own set of keys....
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Jay
Alien Abductee

Vatican City
2279 Posts

Posted - 05/24/2002 :  10:07:44 PM  Show Profile  Send Jay an AOL message  Reply with Quote
thank you. Now back to our normally shecduled beating. YOu flat-headed landlubber!!!!!!!

Jay
" It's a scavenger hunt in the best of times, a one armed man with a box of dimes. Throw the stick and let the bulldog roll." KJP
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Captain Petersburgh
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Canada
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Posted - 05/24/2002 :  10:10:21 PM  Show Profile  Send Captain Petersburgh an AOL message  Reply with Quote
hey landlubber no. phlat head yes. got it?

i'm keepin' TIMe with my own set of keys....
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pcbTIM
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USA
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Posted - 05/31/2002 :  10:03:45 PM  Show Profile  Visit pcbTIM's Homepage  Send pcbTIM an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:

FREE TIBET!



"I'll take it! (picks up telephone) Hello China? I have something you may want."

"I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows."
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Fluffy
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USA
10739 Posts

Posted - 06/17/2002 :  9:26:01 PM  Show Profile  Send Fluffy an AOL message  Reply with Quote
China answers:"I no longer wrestle in the WWF. Can't you freaks just leave me alone. I should have never boxed on the FOX Celebrity Boxing show. Now I just have every weirdo under the sun calling me."

and if you meant China(the country), they would have just said:"Thanx, we had been looking for that. We misplaced it and had been looking for it everywhere."

Peace & Keep the Faith
Fluffy
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Fluffy
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USA
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Posted - 06/23/2002 :  1:47:34 PM  Show Profile  Send Fluffy an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Let's celebrate East TIMor independence with another round of......



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Fluffy
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enthuTIMsiast
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6990 Posts

Posted - 06/25/2002 :  12:49:15 AM  Show Profile  Send enthuTIMsiast an AOL message  Reply with Quote
So does Evergreen really live in east Timor? She's pretty convincing sometimes if she doesn't.

-what-
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Fluffy
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USA
10739 Posts

Posted - 06/26/2002 :  04:21:09 AM  Show Profile  Send Fluffy an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Of course she does, why would she lie about it. And Jason, thats East TIMor!!(for obvious reasons, you should understand better than anyone EnthuTIMsiast)

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Fluffy
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