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Fluffy
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 Posted - 01/19/2002 : 07:47:40 AM
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Main Entry: ven·geance
Pronunciation: 'ven-j&n(t)s
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old French, from vengier to avenge, from Latin vindicare to lay claim to, avenge —more at VINDICATE
Date: 14th century
: punishment inflicted in retaliation for an injury or offense : RETRIBUTION
- with a vengeance 1 : with great force or vehemence 2 : to an extreme or excessive degree
NUFF SAID!!!
Peace & Keep the Faith
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dirtysloth
Fluffy-Esque
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Posted - 01/19/2002 : 10:35:04 AM
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OK, after reading the board this morning I can't keep quiet. Fluffy, you're the greatest tour manager ever, it is impossible to say how much I appreciate the time you take to connect with the fans. I can understand completely how in the "god clarifies..." topic you never meant any harm towards Isaac, you're frustration might've gotten misinterpreted as anger. I'll definitely agree with you that some(most) of Isaac's comments are pretty shocking and disappointing. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to defend those comments, but it upsets me(and really surprises me) to see that every one of your posts is basically a stab at Isaac. I always thought of this board as a place that we can agree to disagree. And if it's not really even a matter of that, but Isaac's ignorance just frustrates you to no end, please "turn it into love". Right/wrong/ignorant/whatever, I hope Isaac doesn't take it too personally. It'd be a shame to lose one of our friends.
And you're definitely right about how tone can be misinterpreted in posts. So I wanna take a second, just to make sure, to say that I'm not trying to bash you Fluffy. I personally am not angry at all about it, just trying to "preserve the peace" I guess.
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Nobody appreciates a fucking thing!
Fluffy, please tell me you don't actually feel that way. I can assure you that isn't true.
Peace,
Patrick
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Fluffy
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Posted - 01/19/2002 : 12:55:46 PM
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Patrick Said:quote:
, but it upsets me(and really surprises me) to see that every one of your posts is basically a stab at Isaac. I always thought of this board as a place that we can agree to disagree. And if it's not really even a matter of that, but Isaac's ignorance just frustrates you to no end, please "turn it into love". Right/wrong/ignorant/whatever, I hope Isaac doesn't take it too personally. It'd be a shame to lose one of our friends.
Well Patrick, It also distresses me to see that it appears not only Isaac is missing my point. You say that all my posts are stabs at Isaac. If you are commenting on the posts all over the board. I would agree with you. If you are referring to my posts in the "God" post, I totally disagree, I kept the whole converstion geared toward the topics at hand with no "stabs" at Isaac. Isaac, in MY estimation is the one taking stabs in the "god" post. My other posts are merely a negative response(childish) to a degenerating situation. I have already apologized to everyone else on the board for becoming so public with my anger at his comments. I think you will find many posts in the past where I was the peacemaker. Saying the exact same words. "Agree to Disagree" Only my anger is not with any disagreement. Go back and read the "God" post. I have stated on numerous occasions that I do not care whether Isaac agrees or disagrees, I am just trying to make him aware of alternate viewpoints. He chose to take to the "personal attacks" that I took so personally. I continue as always to believe 2 people can disagree and still get along. I am not angry with Isaac for disagreeing, in fact I encourage it. As evidenced by comments throughout my lengthy posts. I will not concede that when 1 starts insulting that I need to remain civil. I guess in a perfect world we should be able to turn the other cheek. There are many insults I can take lightly and turn the other cheek for. Some of Isaacs go beyond that level for me. They are truly some of the most OFFENSIVE comments every leveled against me. And let me assure you, I have had my fair share of derogatory comments hurled at me throughout my life. Never giving a care to whether someone thought I was an asshole or not. What others think is of no real significance to me. I am confident enough in the person that I am not be phased by slack jawed comments, but when it comes from a supposed friend, I have a much different reaction. On the other hand, comments about my integrity, sincerity, motivation, etc etc etc, when I have CLEARLY stated my intention and purpose numerous times. Still everyone seems to get the wrong impression. Sorry you all got the wrong impression. Give yourselves a few years and maybe you will figure out what I am talking about. You asked me to turn it to love. Well just so everyone knows, let me state for the record that I DO NOT HATE ISAAC. I just think he is immature and unwilling to listen to anything else beyond what he believes. He got himself into a conversation way over his head. It is all my fault for thinking I could have a conversation like that and have any of it comprehended in the manner I hoped. If I am seen as the ranting madman, then all have missed the point. That saddens me. Maybe after some time and water under the bridge when it is not so much like salt in a fresh wound, you can go back read the post from top to bottom and hopefully get more out of it than you have so far. Once again I apologize to everyone for losing it so publicly when I was so viciously attacked. I admit it was childish but what the hey. As evidenced by many past posts I sure you will see that this is totally out of character for me. But maybe it will help to convey just how offended I truly was, that I would lose my kewl so badly for what everyone else seems to view as a minor incident. I guess I truly am in the MINORITY!
Peace & Keep the Faith
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dirtysloth
Fluffy-Esque
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Posted - 01/19/2002 : 1:36:55 PM
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Fluffy said:
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Well Patrick, It also distresses me to see that it appears not only Isaac is missing my point. You say that all my posts are stabs at Isaac. If you are commenting on the posts all over the board. I would agree with you.
Yeah, like I said I totally understand where you were going in the "god" topic. I was just talking about the posts all over the place. I can see where you would take offense to some of the things Isaac said, and understand how anger can get the best of us sometimes. It makes me feel a lot better to know that you understand where I was coming from on that.
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Still everyone seems to get the wrong impression. Sorry you all got the wrong impression. Give yourselves a few years and maybe you will figure out what I am talking about.
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If I am seen as the ranting madman, then all have missed the point. That saddens me. Maybe after some time and water under the bridge when it is not so much like salt in a fresh wound, you can go back read the post from top to bottom and hopefully get more out of it than you have so far.
Just want to state again that I totally understand and would back you up in the "god" topic, it's just the posts made everywhere that got to me. I certainly don't see you as a "ranting madman". And also it takes a good man to say he's sorry. Like you said it was definitely out of character for you which is why I said I was surprised to see it. Anyway, thanks for clearing things up for us.
Peace,
Patrick
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Fluffy
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Posted - 01/21/2002 : 09:48:10 AM
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DirtySloth Said:quote:
And also it takes a good man to say he's sorry. Like you said it was definitely out of character for you which is why I said I was surprised to see it. Anyway, thanks for clearing things up for us.
I am glad someone noticed that my behavior was totally out of character and again I am sorry it surprised you. All I am really interested in at this point is "clearing things up" and letting the board go on as b4. It was a great board b4 my rantings. And yes I was a ranting MADman. Sorry again.
Peace & Keep the Faith
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