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PJK |
Posted - 10/12/2006 : 6:33:46 PM I attended the most outstanding lecture I have ever heard the other night, and believe me, I have heard many a great speaker in my life time.
The speaker was Irshad Manji, author of the book "The Trouble with Islam today."
Irshad was 4 years old when she had to flee with her family from the African nation of Uganda when Idi Amin was in power. Amin said Africa was for the blacks and as Irshad puts it "those of us with brown skin had mere weeks to leave or we would be killed."
Her family fled to Richmond, a suburb of Vancouver, British Columbia in 1972. She grew up there attending regular school during the week and the Muslim school on Saturdays.
It was there that she was told she couldn't say the prayers because she is female. It was there that she was told that Jews are evil.
When she was 12 she started asking a lot of questions.....OUT LOUD! She demanded to know why she couldn't say prayers and was told it was because Allah said so!
She was told she should hate Jews because they worshiped Moolah, not Allah! Her teacher told her that their idolatry would pollute her piety if she hung out with them. She looked around Richmond and the new business signs were those run by Pakistani's, Indians, Koreans, and many other Asian countries. Very few if any were run by Jews. If it was the Jews who were going to take her money, where were the Jewish businesses?
She told her teacher she couldn't understand why Muhammad would have commanded his army to kill an entire Jewish tribe when the Koran supposedly came to him as a message of peace. Her teacher couldn't answer her.
She realized that she was not getting educated in the Muslim school she was getting indoctinated!
She decided to read the whole Koran. (her Muslim school only taught selected passages from the Koran) What she learned was that Islam the way many practice it today, is not what true Islam is all about. She started to see the flaws........serious flaws.
Irshad is one of the bravest women I have ever met. The place I listened to her at was swarming with state police. When I met her and had my books signed after the lecture, two policeman flanked her on both sides. Why? Because like Salman Rushdie, she is on an Islamic hit list. There were death threats made at the University the night I saw her.
Why? Because, while she is still very much a Muslim, she is speaking out for what is wrong with Islam today. She is trying to reach out to female Muslims (particularly those from Muslim fundamentalist families). You see, even as I write this, somewhere in the world a Muslim woman is being murdered and it is perfectly OK with her family. Not only is it OK with her family, the person who is killing her is a relative, an uncle or brother.
These women have NO rights! Don't think for a moment that this is only happening in Iran and Iraq. Last Saturday, NOV 7th, three Pakistani sisters were killed in the Netherlands by their brother! Why? Because they were getting too independent! OH and lest you think this man will be punished for this obvious "honor killing" you should be aware that his family is saying he had a history of mental illness and didn't know what he was doing!
(Read more about this and other similar incidents that you won't read about in our newspapers or hear on the news at www.brucebawer.com then click on his blog.) Bruce wrote the book While Europe Slept and he happens to be a good friend of Irshads. She is, in fact, giving Bruce a message from me, which I thought was pretty cool of her to do.
She did tell the story of a Pakistani woman who was tried for premarital sex. In fact she had been raped and had 7 witnesses to prove it, therefore she only received 100 lashings for punishment instead of 180!
Irshad's book has been banned (no surprise there) in Iran and Pakistan and some other countries. She therefore translated the book into those languages and made them free downloads from her website. I forget her website address but you can find it by just searching her name, Irshad Manji.
I don't know how many of you know who Salman Rushdie is, but he wrote the book Satanic Verses in which there was a dream sequence which had some representations of the prophet Muhammad in them. Iran, who was at war with Iraq at the time, used his book to divert attention of the war. They fueled a huge protest which resulted in a 2 million dollar bounty on his head. (BTW, it is up to 2.5 million now due to interest.....no kidding!)
Anyway, Irshad got to meet Salman and she asked him why, after all he was going through with the death threats, would he advise her to continue to write her book and he said "because a book is more valuable than a persons life." At first she thought he was joking, making light of his situation and she really wanted a serious answer. Then she realized that WAS the serious answer. When she asked him what he meant by that he said, because people can destroy a book, they can vihemently disagree with what is written, but they can't destroy the thought once it is published!
I know this is a serious topic for a music message board, but it is an important one. I would urge people to go hear Irshad if she comes to a University near you to speak. Unfortunately, I think Universities are probably one of the few places she does speak.
OH and one last thought, one last reason why she is such a hero to me. She had a bodyguard. He was big and burly and from what she said, quite good looking (LOL) but she had to fire him. She said it was done in a most friendly way, and that he still has some of his things in her apartment, but the reason she fired him was because she didn't feel she could tell Muslim women to speak out, knowing their lives would be in danger, when she had a body guard and they didn't. She said she would be a hypocrit if she did that! I applaud her!
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PJK |
Posted - 11/14/2006 : 11:49:54 PM Attended another fantastic lecture tonight, this time by Scott Ritter, UN and US weapons inspector. My son went with me and I am so glad he did.
Basically he told it like it is, that as many of us knew, the reason we went into Iraq was not because of WMDs (weapons of mass destruction). The reason according to Scott, and if you heard the entire lecture it really made perfect sense, was all due to a statement made in 1990 by Bush Sr, when he said that Saddam was like Hitler. The US had been "friends" with Saddam before that.
According to Ritter, there were no weapons of mass destruction and the government knew it all along! (So did many of us!)
It's late and I don't have time to write about it more now, but I do want to say that he said the administration also has their eye on a regime change in Iran. He wrote a book which I am currently reading called "The Truth About the While House's Plans for Regime Change TARGET IRAN."
He also "burst my bubble" when I spoke to him and asked him if he read Mahdi Obeidi's book, The Bomb In My Garden, to which he said "yes, and it's all fiction, none of it happened the way he said in his book. Madhi was a little weasel of a guy and would coward down whenever we pressured him to answer our questions!" What a let down! I had enjoyed reading that book and thought it was totally non-fiction. hummmmm BTW, Mahdi had mentioned meeting with Scott in his book.
Dave Cahill and Hopeful Rolling Waves, I think you guys would really like reading Scott's book. It really was enlightening to hear him speak.
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PJK |
Posted - 10/20/2006 : 3:22:32 PM Ah Thanks Teri! I think I would prefer to see the documentary. |
tericee |
Posted - 10/20/2006 : 06:58:09 AM Two different movies. The one Kevin saw is an actual documentary, which is available on NetFlix. The other is a new movie with Forrest Whitaker, who is getting much Oscar buzz. |
PJK |
Posted - 10/20/2006 : 06:50:21 AM OK, I am confused, is this the movie you saw Kevin, with a new title, or is it another movie about Idi Amin? Just wondering. I'd like to see it.
"The Last King of Scotland" (already playing in limited release, expands throughout the month) - Forest Whitaker is just devastating as Idi Amin. He can be charming and generous one minute, then fly into a vicious rage the next. And in showing the many conflicting sides of the Ugandan dictator, he actually makes you feel sorry for him.
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tericee |
Posted - 10/18/2006 : 08:29:40 AM I'll definitely have to watch for this one. (Maybe I can see it while I'm in the States for Thanksgiving.)
I checked out the IMDB page and was intrigued that the actor playing Amin's personal physician is the one who played Mr Tumnus. It will be cool to see him with actual legs. ;-) |
Robin |
Posted - 10/17/2006 : 7:55:56 PM My friend used to have a cat named Idi Amin. He was terrible to the other cats in the house.Peace, Robin |
Fluffy |
Posted - 10/17/2006 : 5:54:30 PM Timely I guess given this topic, but there is a recent movie out called the The Last King of Scotland with Forest Whitaker as Idi Amin. Here are some links if you are interested in checking it out:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6152988
Interview with FW about the role:
http://www.movieweb.com/news/51/14851.php
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9112637090290568460
http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/film/features/article1808697.ece
and of course:
http://imdb.com/title/tt0455590/
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PJK |
Posted - 10/17/2006 : 4:11:58 PM Amin was ruthless. He had ties to the PLO. I remember when he let the hijacked plane from Athens land in his country in the summer of 1976. (the year I graduated from college, yep I am THAT old, haha)
The hijackers allowed everyone but the Jews to go free. The stewardess was a hero because she tried to hide some of the identities of the passengers. They made her collect the passports and tell her which names were Jewish. She was credited with the release of the freed hostages. There was a movie about it I think it was called the Raid on Entebee.
Anyway, one passenger died I think he was executed by the hijackers, I think he was actually an American soldier, but I forget exactly. I know an older woman was taken to a hospital. The Israelies raided Entebee, where the plane landed and rescued the hostages. After the raid Amin ordered the execution of the woman in the hospital.
He was responsible for the death of something like half a million of his people.
On another note, I picked up a copy of the Koran today at Borders on the bargin table for $3.99! NO I am not converting to Islam, I just like to read things for myself instead of always having people tell me what something says. One of the history teachers at work told me about it, she picked one up too. |
Hopeful Rolling Waves |
Posted - 10/17/2006 : 2:49:38 PM He's a bad mamma jamma. African tyrants are big right now...right up there next to denim pants. |
tericee |
Posted - 10/16/2006 : 3:54:59 PM Sadly, I never really knew anything about Idi Amin until I saw a movie called Mississippi Masala. And what I learned from that was only tangential. I'd like to see that documentary too.
It's now in my Netflix queue. |
PJK |
Posted - 10/15/2006 : 6:38:15 PM That's pretty funny Kevin. I would love to see that film! As for Irshad's book, I just bought five more copies for gifts on Amazon. It's only $12.95 so not an expensive book. |
KevinLesko |
Posted - 10/15/2006 : 6:06:51 PM By the way, I'll be sure to check out that book. |
KevinLesko |
Posted - 10/15/2006 : 6:03:44 PM Glad to hear you were able to attend such an interesting lecture Pam. I just recently watched the Criterion documentary on General Idi. The documentary was really interesting. There is one scene where he is lecturing his government/Army (they weren't very different) about all the reasons he would kill them. One of them was "If you are weak like a Woman, I'll kill you". The craziest part, was that he was so full of himself, and drinking his own Kool-Aid, that the filmmakers had his full approval to film everything he did. He actually thought the world would view him as the great leader he thought he was. It wasn't until the film came out in France, that he realized that they were exploiting his ignorance, and showing the world what a ruthless killer he actually was.
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tericee |
Posted - 10/14/2006 : 09:38:53 AM That sounds like a great lecture Pam. I doubt if she'll come over here, but I'll keep an eye out! |
Zachmozach |
Posted - 10/14/2006 : 12:08:31 AM This gives me an idea for a book. |
PJK |
Posted - 10/12/2006 : 9:28:12 PM Apparently so, I know, that was news to me to! LOL |
dan p. |
Posted - 10/12/2006 : 9:05:18 PM wait, there's interest on bounty fees? |
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