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| rubylith |
Posted - 04/05/2006 : 08:48:58 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12159118/ |
| 31 L A T E S T R E P L I E S (Newest First) |
| rubylith |
Posted - 04/13/2006 : 08:48:16 AM
I had to buy this!
Check this:
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| Hopeful Rolling Waves |
Posted - 04/13/2006 : 08:07:41 AM
He doesn't care, Halliburton doesn't lose any money over boos at a crapball game. |
| dan p. |
Posted - 04/12/2006 : 11:02:40 PM
haha, yeah i watched the video. i wonder how cheney feels about everyone just booing the shit out of him. |
| rubylith |
Posted - 04/12/2006 : 1:03:40 PM
right on...yea what he posts are editorials anylyzing different articles and facts. WHen they post news they post it with a link to the source whether it be AP, Reuters, the Post and so on.
I find their editorials very well written, and slanted to the truth. They do not hide the fact that they do not support this government, nor the last one, nor the one before that. I do enjoy reading their articles, and I just wanted to get your input, thanks dan.
Did you watch the video? Fucking hilarious!
Oh and BTW here is the front page of MSNBC....umm what plane?
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| dan p. |
Posted - 04/12/2006 : 12:54:02 PM
"So why did Reuters carry the headline, 'Cheers, boos as Cheney opens baseball game'? Cheers is capitalized and placed before boos, suggesting there were more cheers than boos."
i could not stop laughing. this guy's upset because of the post's use of language to soften the fact that pretty much everyone booed cheney? his objection is is what, then? a lack of reporting the truth with language that communicates the truth and nothing else? the people at prisonplanet lack entirely the position to condemn other people's use of language. if he wants to be such a fuckin stickler about objectivity in journalism, then maybe he should go through the his own writing, and that of his co-workers at prison planet. honestly? i can't tell the difference between an editorial and news piece on prison planet because they're both so rife with this particular problem with language use. if i were certain this were intended to be a news piece and not an editorial, i could sit here and point out every such use of language, and there'd be almost nothing left of his article. i don't feel any particular inclination to, because most of it is obvious, and i'm not too sure it's not an editorial.
if paul joseph watson has an issue with language in journalism being used for anything other than communicating facts unblemished, he needs to quit his job and do something else, because he's just contributing to the problem, along with everyone he works with. |
| rubylith |
Posted - 04/12/2006 : 10:37:56 AM
Obviously it isn't something that should waste a lot of your time, but it is true, he was booed horribly, and they promote it as "Cheers, boos" and then claim it is because of his bad pitch. I mean come on! The guy is the uttermost scumbag of the world. |
| Biff the Pig |
Posted - 04/12/2006 : 09:40:18 AM
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I have been to enough sporting events to know what booing sounds like and make no mistake Dick Cheney was booed big time at yesterday's Washington Nationals baseball game.
Go and watch the video. The booing is about 80% to 20% cheers, roughly matching Big Dick's own approval rating.
So why did Reuters carry the headline, 'Cheers, boos as Cheney opens baseball game'? Cheers is capitalized and placed before boos, suggesting there were more cheers than boos.
The Washington Post went one further.
"The first pitch of the Washington Nationals' second season at Robert F. Kennedy Memorial Stadium was low and away, bouncing in the dirt before being scooped up by catcher Brian Schneider."
"For that, Vice President Cheney received a round of boos from the home crowd this afternoon. But the catcalls didn't last long before the fans cheered for the Nationals, who took the field in their white uniforms with red trim against the New York Mets."
The intelligence agency/government mouthpiece is actually claiming that it was the quality of Cheney's pitch that caused the boos! The video proves Cheney was booed before he touched the ball!
The Reuters headline is an example of how the messianic zeal to be 'balanced' - in this instance including both boos and cheers in the headline - often deliberately obfuscates a true representation of the story.
k, that is the stupidest "arguement" that i have ever seen. |
| rubylith |
Posted - 04/12/2006 : 09:03:36 AM
Dan...what do you think of this PP article...?
The Credibility Of The Dissenting Viewpoint
Cheney was booed!
Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | April 12 2006
I have been to enough sporting events to know what booing sounds like and make no mistake Dick Cheney was booed big time at yesterday's Washington Nationals baseball game.
Go and watch the video. The booing is about 80% to 20% cheers, roughly matching Big Dick's own approval rating.
So why did Reuters carry the headline, 'Cheers, boos as Cheney opens baseball game'? Cheers is capitalized and placed before boos, suggesting there were more cheers than boos.
The Washington Post went one further.
"The first pitch of the Washington Nationals' second season at Robert F. Kennedy Memorial Stadium was low and away, bouncing in the dirt before being scooped up by catcher Brian Schneider."
"For that, Vice President Cheney received a round of boos from the home crowd this afternoon. But the catcalls didn't last long before the fans cheered for the Nationals, who took the field in their white uniforms with red trim against the New York Mets."
The intelligence agency/government mouthpiece is actually claiming that it was the quality of Cheney's pitch that caused the boos! The video proves Cheney was booed before he touched the ball!
The Reuters headline is an example of how the messianic zeal to be 'balanced' - in this instance including both boos and cheers in the headline - often deliberately obfuscates a true representation of the story.
The Post article is an outright lie and if an alternative blogger had made such an obvious faux pas he would have been bombarded with e mails for a week telling him he had been exposed as a charlatan. Yet don't hold your breath for the Post to issue a retraction. It is amazing that alternative journalists are held to an even higher standard in some cases than the 'trusted mainstream' and are widely tarred as crackpots if they step out of line once.
This is why alternative and dissenting viewpoints on modern day and historical events - the so-called 'conspiratorial view of history' - are significantly more substantial in the evidence they cite to back up the argument. They have to be, because the raging fury of the orthodox backlash is expected and prepared for. This is why alternative blogger articles are always sourced with hyperlinks at every turn, something you just don't see in 99% of mainstream pieces, even when it's an opinion piece and not straight news.
This idea that the dissenting view, because of its very form and nature, is immediately more credible than the orthodoxy, is discussed in a new book by Michael Parenti.
“Can we ever think that one subjective, imperfect opinion is better than another? Yes, as a rough rule of thumb, dissident opinions that are less reliant on the dominant paradigm are likely to be more vigorously tested and challenged. People approach the heterodox viewpoint with skepticism, assuming they ever get a chance to hear of it. Having been conditioned to the mainstream orthodoxy most of their lives, they are less inclined to place their trust automatically and unthinkingly in an unfamiliar analysis, one that not fit their background assumptions. They even will self-censor it by tuning out. If given the choice to consider a new perspective or mobilize old arguments against it, it is remarkable how quickly start reaching for the old arguments. All this makes dissent that much more difficult but that much more urgent.”
Cheney was booed! He was booed more than he was cheered. The boos drowned out the cheers. Reporting this fact is not breaking some holy commandment of balanced journalistic ethical code. Tell the truth. End of story.
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Haha cracks me up. I noticed that reading through the MSM...especially the healdine "Cheers, boos"...totally stupid, but I think it is interesting to see even "left" news outlets such as the WP distort reality to the masses. |
| tericee |
Posted - 04/10/2006 : 12:47:09 PM
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Originally posted by Hopeful Rolling Waves
Boohoo, Heather. We're so sad. We have no sunshine in our lives. We should just check out your myspace so we could all have a good laugh...together.
Can't you be a little bit nicer to new people, HRW? It's not like Heather posted SPAM or anything.
Also, she's in the Air Force like I am, so everyone HAS to be nice to her.  |
| rubylith |
Posted - 04/10/2006 : 09:44:44 AM
Thats coo,, just curious, what did you disagree on...I am interested on what you don't like. Thanks! |
| Biff the Pig |
Posted - 04/10/2006 : 09:32:40 AM
i read to F and i disagreed with about half of it..so i didnt feel like completing it to prove im not in my right mind. |
| Hopeful Rolling Waves |
Posted - 04/10/2006 : 08:07:21 AM
Dan, you should read Dr. Bowmann's Issues A to Z page, very interesting, no one in their right mind wouldn't vote for this guy, we more Dr. Bob's out there.
http://www.bowman2006.com/issues_az.htm |
| dan p. |
Posted - 04/10/2006 : 01:24:13 AM
that shit kills me. it is division. people have different opinions and shit, but we don't need to make clubs or groups out of it. what are they? fuckin 12? you don't agree with someone, or vote for someone because they share the same ridiculous label. you don't give what they have to say any more or less credit. how about taking the idea for what it's worth? if you find yourself saying "oh this guys a conservative (or liberal) i'm not going to listen to what he says." the time has come to re-evaluate your life. |
| rubylith |
Posted - 04/07/2006 : 09:22:30 AM
holy shit thats awesome!
I'm really impressed with Bowman, he could help with the "big shift" that will be happening in out government the next decade.
BigShaft. |
| Hopeful Rolling Waves |
Posted - 04/07/2006 : 08:20:59 AM
This is what Dr. Bowman says about the American "party" schism:
"Conservative/Liberal Division: The terms "Conservative" and "Liberal" are time-honored labels that have unfortunately lost most of their meaning today. The Corporate media portray a Conservative as an Ebenezer Scrooge before his Christmas Eve ghostly visitors, consigning the poor to the prisons and workhouses. Likewise, they show a Liberal as a Fagan, picking the pockets of the deserving wealthy, corrupting the morals of our youth, and exhibiting not the slightest hint of conscience or self-control. Neither of these Dickensian caricatures is true. The corporate ruling class and their media have artificially divided the American people and turned us against each other because they don’t want us to know who our real oppressors are. Well, no more. It’s time we the people came together and took back our country. Conservatives and liberals have BOTH been alienated, manipulated, ridiculed, and ignored by the ruling elite (I call them the radical centrists) who have no ideology at all, but serve only money and power. What I learned from my 2000 campaign was that conservatives and liberals agree on the vast majority of the issues. They just use different words. Both want a government that follows the Constitution and serves the interests of ordinary Americans. Both want an end to wars of conquest and empire on behalf of the financial interests of multinational corporations. Both love their country but fear and distrust their government. Both are correct. Both will have their interests served by a new American government freed from the control of big-money interests."
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| rubylith |
Posted - 04/07/2006 : 07:44:13 AM
I believe the false left/right paradigm is only meant to divide and conqeur us...
A house divided cannot stand.
ALL these motherfuckers are corrupt and bringing this country down from the inside.
I mean can anyone actually be labeled ONE thing or another?
Look at Dennis Kucinich, hes the man, but then you have conservative Ron Paul who is just as fucking awesome. This year we have 72 members of 9/11 truth running for the house. We'll see what happen!
Check this guy out, hes also a great guy:
www.bowman2006.com
read his issues! |
| dan p. |
Posted - 04/07/2006 : 12:59:17 AM
i find the fact that you attack clinton admirable. it indicates your opinions are governed by something other than political parties. and really, we need more of that sort of thinking. whether you're right or wrong about most things, there's something to be said for the process by which people come by their opinions. i tend to form opinions not on the issues, but on the prevailing opinions of said issues by people. the way i see it, if you can't form an opinion that has its base in reason, and don't conflict with any other opinion or philosophy you have, then how can you possibly do something about anything else? we tend to lose sight of that.
anyway. 5 points, i guess, for going after anyone regardless of political affiliation. |
| SpaceMonkey |
Posted - 04/06/2006 : 7:44:59 PM
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| rubylith |
Posted - 04/06/2006 : 3:47:37 PM
yea, and he'll go down for that...the most insignificant thing he has done...
WHY NOT TRY THESE BASTARDS FOR 9/11!!! Only a matter of time I guess.
...kind of like Clinton's blow job....that was so insignificant compared to the barbaric things he did. |
| rubylith |
Posted - 04/06/2006 : 08:02:29 AM
other governments do suck, such as China and Saudi Arabia...two of our biggest allies.
What about countries that are "free-er" than we are?
Canada, Netherlands, Sweden, Iceland, Denmark...
I hate these scum sucking aristocrats in our government, they come to seak kill and destroy, they have control over your bank account, your social security, your health, your military, and the federal reserve.
Our government carried out 9/11 and someday they will try and pull off another attack. That would be the only way to get the sheeple behind their motives. Just know when that A-bomb goes off in some federal building in the United STates, be assured that it wasn't some patsie, who also happens to be a CIA asset, who planned such a sophisticated attack from a cave.
I have a great life, I listen to awesome music and I have the best friends in the world. If I were to simply ignore these things, I won't have the things I love anymore. I will fight, I will inform, and I will defend this country.
I will part by quoting the Declaration of Independence:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world."
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| dan p. |
Posted - 04/05/2006 : 7:33:50 PM
i believe one of the quotes from brian j. doyle was "i'd hit that with an airplane." |
| Biff the Pig |
Posted - 04/05/2006 : 6:56:16 PM
just b/c they are in the spotlight moreso than maybe us doesnt mean they are going to go without their own problems and shortcomings. i know we should be able to hold political figures like this to higher standards, but they live in the same world as we do. it's not always easy. im not giving this guy a pass on what he has done(it's gross, it's wrong, and he should be punished) but to say that this is ultimatley our government is an invalid statement. maybe a more correct statement would read "This is your world". |
| enthuTIMsiast |
Posted - 04/05/2006 : 6:39:31 PM
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he was online with the “girl,”
Ha. That cracks me up. ... "girl" |
| Robin |
Posted - 04/05/2006 : 6:20:04 PM
It's just a topic for conversation, and be that as it may sometimes when you post things that make someone uncomfortable it makes them aware of it in a way that they were not before. Or they can just choose not to read it or participate in the topic at hand.
There are plenty of "fuzzy bunny" topics that one can choose. I don't jump in at every thing posted, but I appreciate the fact that this board has such diversity as far as what gets posted and discussed. That being said, welcome to the board Heather. Peace, Robin |
| Hopeful Rolling Waves |
Posted - 04/05/2006 : 5:32:21 PM
Boohoo, Heather. We're so sad. We have no sunshine in our lives. We should just check out your myspace so we could all have a good laugh...together. |
| page0178 |
Posted - 04/05/2006 : 4:41:45 PM
For crying out loud folks, can't we find anything better to talk about? Yes, our government is in bad shape, we all know this...it makes me sad most days. So, let's try to keep the conversations on an upbeat!  You know I love y'all!!!  |
| rubylith |
Posted - 04/05/2006 : 4:00:19 PM
WHat about this from 1989:
http://www.thelawparty.org/WTpage1.gif
http://www.thelawparty.org/FranklinCoverup/WTpage2.gif |
| Arthen |
Posted - 04/05/2006 : 3:38:55 PM
So we should assume that everyone that works in the Homeland Security office to be a child pedophile? Save those generalizations if we have repeated incidents, like within the Catholic church. |
| Hopeful Rolling Waves |
Posted - 04/05/2006 : 3:05:00 PM
I am sure it goes beyond this one guy, I am surprised this came out at all. He must've pissed of the wrong guy. |
| dan p. |
Posted - 04/05/2006 : 1:34:15 PM
that's actually not the government. that's just one person who works for the government. now, if it had been like 10 people who worked for the homeland security dept., then i'd be a little more concerned and amused. there are pervs and shitheads in every walk of life. i can say with a fair amount of confidence that there are pervs and shitheads where you work, wherever that is.
the homeland security dept is pretty much bullshit, anyway. here's what we don't need: a bigger government. if he loses his job, that's a good start.
but let's be fair. he was going to fuck that girl til her freckles fall off, otherwise the terrorists win. |
| Hopeful Rolling Waves |
Posted - 04/05/2006 : 09:28:18 AM
I thought he was Deputy Press Security of Child Molestation and he was just doing his job. |
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