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HotKoreanGirl Posted - 09/28/2005 : 1:55:35 PM
Finally, that fucker is stepping down...
http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=nation_world&id=3485655

I'm sure more news will indicate this soon.

Fucking Corrupt-ass government we have.
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Arthen Posted - 10/03/2005 : 02:20:15 AM
And where we do finally end up, it's for only Iluvatar to see and know for certain...
dan p. Posted - 10/03/2005 : 01:44:38 AM
i loved how tolkien didn't model his mythology after any one real world mythology, but intentionally or not blended them into something wholly unique.

i always take iluvatar to be like the judo-christian god, the vala to be like roman/greek gods with manwe=zeus/jupiter, and the maia to be the nine, or 7, i forget, choirs of angels. or, the different elemental associations aside, you could look at it all to be in the christian way, with iluvatar as god, and the vala as sort of the highest archangels, with melkor being the fallen archangel, satan, and manwe being michael, and all the maia as lesser angels, with the 1/3 of the angels lucifer took with him being sauron, the balrogs and assorted demons of melkor.

the fleeing of the elves' spirit from the body to mandos upon death, to be born again later hints at reincarnation. the dwarves have their valhalla situation, and man has the fate real humans are generally thought to share; some unknown end. the final battle irmo (mandos) spoke of in the northern prophecies, when manwe comes against melkor and all living and dead do battle on either side, is sort of like the second coming of christ, when he fights satan.

the funny thing is, outside of the mythology itself, tolkiens claims no allegory, and that he actually didn't much care for allegory at all. that is, nothing stands for anything else. any appearence of allegory is simply applicibilty. a lot of things i've heard people claim for symbolism, saruman=hitler for example, simply can't be because the character saruman was created before hitler's rise. there's only themes that ring so true as to forcibly suggest certain things in one's own time. 40 years down the line, people will be drawing new parallels to these same things. there's the theme of industry stamping out nature, the classic good vs. evil, the fear of death, and a whole shit ton more. as many as this world has, since his world was almost as complete as this one.
Arthen Posted - 10/02/2005 : 1:01:26 PM
quote:
Originally posted by dan p.

yeah, what actually happened was hobbits were a group of humans who went west, i guess. a long long time before lotr. and they got smaller and lazier. what small religious anything the hobbits have come actually from elves.

the dwarves were created not by the god, iluvatar, but by the vala aule. iluvatar allowed them life and gave them the free will that aule couldn't. it's believed that dwarves, when dead, go to aman and in mandos have a hall seperate of elves and of men, and after the final battle will aid aule in repairing the arda.



You can see Tolkien's academics shining through in the Dwarves as they share certain similiarities with the Vikings and Norse mythology. It's great.
dan p. Posted - 10/01/2005 : 7:38:54 PM
yeah, what actually happened was hobbits were a group of humans who went west, i guess. a long long time before lotr. and they got smaller and lazier. what small religious anything the hobbits have come actually from elves.

the dwarves were created not by the god, iluvatar, but by the vala aule. iluvatar allowed them life and gave them the free will that aule couldn't. it's believed that dwarves, when dead, go to aman and in mandos have a hall seperate of elves and of men, and after the final battle will aid aule in repairing the arda.
HotKoreanGirl Posted - 09/30/2005 : 8:13:44 PM
Hmm, curious hobbits...you know I suppose they could be an offshoot, but I'm inclined to believe they originated as a distinctive race. I don't recall there being any God they worship, or have some ancestor fascination like dwarves (according to JRR tolkien and other Fantasy writers). My bet is they are their own exclusive race, with no darwinian nonsense occuring.
Arthen Posted - 09/30/2005 : 7:38:21 PM
quote:
Originally posted by dan p.

a half-hobbit. i don't recall any such union of hobbit and human in any annal, book, or tree that i've read. hobbits, as i recall, are really just an offshoot of man, if i recall correctly.



And Hobbits as a rule, or generally more environmentally friendly, except Ted Sandyman, the miller, who was very happy for the Industrialization of the Shire under Sharkey, or Saruman.

Tom Delay could be the Ted under Sharkey (Bush) I suppose. But still unlikely that he's from a Hobbit. Orc or the evil Harradrim (Sp?) are much more likely to produce a Delay type figure.
dan p. Posted - 09/30/2005 : 6:35:31 PM
a half-hobbit. i don't recall any such union of hobbit and human in any annal, book, or tree that i've read. hobbits, as i recall, are really just an offshoot of man, if i recall correctly.
HotKoreanGirl Posted - 09/30/2005 : 5:17:45 PM
you could be right, perhaps his mother and father did have sex...I never thought of that. I think one of his parents must have been a hobbit or a half-ling. Something about his face looks like it's from Fantasy-race of beings--like gnomes or Dwarves even. I'm betting on Frodo...a human woman must have copulated with Frodo.
Arthen Posted - 09/30/2005 : 4:35:35 PM
quote:
Originally posted by HotKoreanGirl

sorry to be so graphic, but the truth is out there...people need to know these things.

But seriously, how else could he have come into being?



Perhaps his mother and father had sex at one point? But that's just my crazy talk...
HotKoreanGirl Posted - 09/30/2005 : 3:55:42 PM
sorry to be so graphic, but the truth is out there...people need to know these things.

But seriously, how else could he have come into being?
Kenneth Posted - 09/30/2005 : 3:50:22 PM
Agreed. I don't think HotKoreanGuy has ever posted anything without mentioning his pussy, cock, balls, and/or ass.
Arthen Posted - 09/30/2005 : 3:45:13 PM
quote:
Originally posted by HotKoreanGirl

Thank God the USA press is slamming this guy
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4293102.stm

Tom delay is worse than radiohead...Radiohead is in fact the pussy through which Delay was born. Delay's conception was probably through cock in the ass though. Long hard shaft inserted into a taught buttocks. Much like Pornstar Ron Jeremy with his 10+ hard inches plowing into Frodo Baggins Bunghole.

Ron: "Bend over Mr. Frodo"
Frodo: "Po-Taaa-Toes!"






Seek help.
HotKoreanGirl Posted - 09/30/2005 : 09:59:01 AM
Thank God the USA press is slamming this guy
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4293102.stm

Tom delay is worse than radiohead...Radiohead is in fact the pussy through which Delay was born. Delay's conception was probably through cock in the ass though. Long hard shaft inserted into a taught buttocks. Much like Pornstar Ron Jeremy with his 10+ hard inches plowing into Frodo Baggins Bunghole.

Ron: "Bend over Mr. Frodo"
Frodo: "Po-Taaa-Toes!"
dan p. Posted - 09/29/2005 : 9:38:35 PM
oh really. i keep forgetting. you see, i have so many aliases. alii? what's the plural of alias? i use a lot of different names. if you can't find brobi-wan kenobi, try:

obi-wan kenbrobi
brodo baggins
bilbro baggins
hulk brogan
brosemity sam
broseph stalin
rivers bromo

any of those might yield pictures of me. i've, uh, done a lot of work.
Hopeful Rolling Waves Posted - 09/29/2005 : 4:54:19 PM
It's HAMMER TIME!

Whore it up!
HotKoreanGirl Posted - 09/29/2005 : 3:21:16 PM
Nope, no pics of you dan--you're just going to have to give them up one way or another. Don't make me get ninja-hentai on your ass...I wish I could do that to Tom Delay...La Blue Girl style.

Oh BTW, I hear Tom Delay shoves Ipods up his asshole to pass the time between religious events
dan p. Posted - 09/29/2005 : 11:28:50 AM
you can see hot hot pictures of me on bromance.com. i'm under the name "brobi-wan kenobi"


is bromance a real site? i don't know, and i can't say as i particularly want to check.
HotKoreanGirl Posted - 09/29/2005 : 10:15:16 AM
pics of dan first! You won't see my hottness unless I see scandelous pics of dan
dan p. Posted - 09/28/2005 : 6:48:34 PM
pics!
therippa Posted - 09/28/2005 : 4:49:12 PM


(if you ever browse the comments on Fark.com you should get the joke...and if you're familiar with Pink Floyd)

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