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| Jay |
Posted - 01/07/2003 : 3:59:14 PM
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1035774887712&call_pageid=968332188854&col=968350060724 |
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| victorwootenfan |
Posted - 01/22/2003 : 8:38:51 PM
Damn our president!! thanks for the info, i will dislike him more now... |
| PJK |
Posted - 01/22/2003 : 3:22:47 PM
Interesting Fleabass. Some I was aware of, some I wasn't.
I was majorly pissed at the lack of support for the Kyoto Protocol agreement. I went on line almost everynight during the summit this past summer to read what was said in the African newspapers as the environment and global warming are one of my interests and concerns. I was ashamed to be an American because of the way that was handled.
As for the bill that denies finacial aid to students convicted of misdemeanor drug charges, I wonder if that is why Penn State didn't do anything to my sons roommate who was busted for pot. He also got caught with some open alcohol containers and does have a hearing for underage drinking. He was caught by the campus police, only the information about the alcohol was passed on to the town's police.
Go figure???? |
| Fleabass76 |
Posted - 01/22/2003 : 2:53:26 PM
http://www.punkvoter.com/reason.html
TOP REASONS TO HATE PRESIDENT BUSH:
And these are only since he's been inaugurated! This guy doesn't waste any time ruining the world...
1) He cut a half a BILLION dollars from the Environmental Protection Agency’s budget. Who needs to look after the environment when there’s all that oil drilling going on?
2) He approved a bill that denies financial aid to students convicted of misdemeanor drug charges (though convicted murderers are still eligible for financial aid).
3) He recently sent a delegation to the UN children’s summit to declare that the use of condoms is not a valid way to fight AIDS and that abstinence is the only solution. This is the view shared by some other countries such as Iran, Iraq, Sudan, Libya, Syria, and the Vatican. It seems that his policy of, "No child shall be left behind" has a whole new meaning.
4) He wouldn’t sign the Kyoto Protocol agreement on global warming, which was ultimately signed by 178 other countries. He also told the entire European community that he would listen to their arguments, but he would not change his mind, effectively treating Europe like an 8 year old child. This may have something to do with why most of the world hates the US.
5) He rejected an international accord to enforce the 1972 treaty banning germ warfare. Of course that would mean that the US would have to stop producing biological agents too.
6) And talk about the fox watching over the hen house, he nominated former mining company executive Dan Lauriski as Assistant Secretary of Labor for Mine Safety and Health.
7) He allocated only 3% of the amount requested by Justice Department lawyers in the governments continued litigation against tobacco companies.
8) He prohibited any financial aid from going to international family planning organizations that provide abortion counseling, referrals, or services with their own funds.
9) He provided every member of the Bin Laden family living in the U.S. a chartered plane shortly after 9/11 to fly back home to Saudi Arabia without questioning them. One of GW’s first petroleum venture was partnered with the Bin Laden family and George Sr. has been getting filthy rich selling defense contracts to the Bin Ladens. These are just some examples of the many ties the Bush family has with the Bin Ladens.
10) He officially withdrew from the 1972 Antiballistic Missile Treaty, gutting the landmark agreement-the first time in the nuclear era that the US renounced a major arms control accord.
11) Refused to join 123 nations pledged to ban the use and production of anti-personnel bombs and mines, February 2001
12) September 2001: withdrew from International Conference on Racism, bringing together 163 countries in Durban, South Africa
13) Over the past 10 years, the US prison population has more than doubled. This is mainly due to unfair three strikes laws, and harsher drug penalties. OK so maybe W. wasn’t behind this one, but the Republicans are.
14) International Plan for Cleaner Energy: G-8 group of industrial nations (US, Canada, Japan, Russia, Germany, France, Italy, UK), July 2001: the US was the only one to oppose it.
15) George replied, "Ken who?" when asked about his relationship with Kenneth Lay, the CEO of Enron, during the federal bankruptcy hearings. This was after Enron gave him their company jet to use for his presidential campaign. George and Kenny were such good friends that Ken was actually seen giving wedgies to the president in the oval office. Yet he still replied, "Ken who?"
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| SlowButSpeeding |
Posted - 01/22/2003 : 12:58:23 PM
Bush doesn't mess up the REALLY important things because he has a speech to read right in front of him.. .that's how it is for every President. However, whenever he tried to ad lib, or bring in personal things, he always has problems conveying that to the people. He's not a very good speaker when he has to make stuff up on the spot. He's not a very good liar, for that matter. It's not cause he only get's what he cares about right... that's not it at all...
Drew |
| Dickey500 |
Posted - 01/22/2003 : 12:27:35 AM
Just to keep the classroom posters alive also, I'm a big fan of the ever-present "hang in there" poster with the cat dangling from a branch. Can't beat it. |
| PJK |
Posted - 01/22/2003 : 12:14:49 AM
I just went back and read this all again. Scarey! I know this is a music board but I wish people cared about the state our country is in as much as they care about getting tickets to TIM and Dave's concerts. |
| Fluffy |
Posted - 01/07/2003 : 11:21:45 PM
Since links have a tendancy to go away, I have posted the article below so it will be here for all to read:
From the Toronto Star
Nov. 28, 2002. 05:45 AM
Bush anything but moronic, according to author
Dark overtones in his malapropisms President
MURRAY WHYTE
ENTERTAINMENT REPORTER
When Mark Crispin Miller first set out to write Dyslexicon: Observations on a National Disorder, about the ever-growing catalogue of President George W. Bush's verbal gaffes, he meant it for a laugh. But what he came to realize wasn't entirely amusing.
Since the 2000 presidential campaign, Miller has been compiling his own collection of Bush-isms, which have revealed, he says, a disquieting truth about what lurks behind the cock-eyed leer of the leader of the free world. He's not a moron at all — on that point, Miller and Prime Minister Jean Chrétien agree.
But according to Miller, he's no friend.
"I did initially intend it to be a funny book. But that was before I had a chance to read through all the transcripts," Miller, an American author and a professor of culture and communication at New York University, said recently in Toronto.
"Bush is not an imbecile. He's not a puppet. I think that Bush is a sociopathic personality. I think he's incapable of empathy. He has an inordinate sense of his own entitlement, and he's a very skilled manipulator. And in all the snickering about his alleged idiocy, this is what a lot of people miss."
Miller's judgment, that the president might suffer from a bona fide personality disorder, almost makes one long for the less menacing notion currently making the rounds: that the White House's current occupant is, in fact, simply an idiot.
If only. Miller's rendering of the president is bleaker than that. In studying Bush's various adventures in oration, he started to see a pattern emerging.
"He has no trouble speaking off the cuff when he's speaking punitively, when he's talking about violence, when he's talking about revenge.
"When he struts and thumps his chest, his syntax and grammar are fine," Miller said.
"It's only when he leaps into the wild blue yonder of compassion, or idealism, or altruism, that he makes these hilarious mistakes."
While Miller's book has been praised for its "eloquence" and "playful use of language," it has enraged Bush supporters.
Bush's ascent in the eyes of many Americans — his approval rating hovers at near 80 percent — was the direct result of tough talk following the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. In those speeches, Bush stumbled not at all; his language of retribution was clear.
It was a sharp contrast to the pre-9/11 George W. Bush. Even before the Supreme Court in 2001 had to intervene and rule on recounts in Florida after a contentious presidential election, a corps of journalists were salivating at the prospect: a bafflingly inarticulate man in a position of power not seen since vice-president Dan Quayle rode shotgun on George H.W. Bush's one term in office.
But equating Bush's malapropisms with Quayle's inability to spell "potato" is a dangerous assumption, Miller says.
At a public address in Nashville, Tenn., in September, Bush provided one of his most memorable stumbles. Trying to give strength to his case that Saddam Hussein had already deceived the West concerning his store of weapons, Bush was scripted to offer an old saying: Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. What came out was the following:
"Fool me once, shame ... shame on ... you." Long, uncomfortable pause. "Fool me — can't get fooled again!"
Played for laughs everywhere, Miller saw a darkness underlying the gaffe.
"There's an episode of Happy Days, where The Fonz has to say, `I'm sorry' and can't do it. Same thing," Miller said.
"What's revealing about this is that Bush could not say, `Shame on me' to save his life. That's a completely alien idea to him. This is a guy who is absolutely proud of his own inflexibility and rectitude."
If what Miller says is true — and it would take more than just observations to prove it — then Bush has achieved an astounding goal.
By stumbling blithely along, he has been able to push his image as "just folks" — a normal guy who screws up just like the rest of us.
This, in fact, is a central cog in his image-making machine, Miller says: Portraying the wealthy scion of one of America's most powerful families as a regular, imperfect Joe.
But the depiction, Miller says, is also remarkable for what it hides — imperfect, yes, but also detached, wealthy and unable to identify with the "folks" he's been designed to appeal to.
An example, Miller says, surfaced early in his presidential tenure.
"I know how hard it is to put food on your family," Bush was quoted as saying.
"That wasn't because he's so stupid that he doesn't know how to say, `Put food on your family's table' — it's because he doesn't care about people who can't put food on the table," Miller says.
So, when Bush is envisioning "a foreign-handed foreign policy," or observes on some point that "it's not the way that America is all about," Miller contends it's because he can't keep his focus on things that mean nothing to him.
"When he tries to talk about what this country stands for, or about democracy, he can't do it," he said.
This, then, is why he's so closely watched by his handlers, Miller says — not because he'll say something stupid, but because he'll overindulge in the language of violence and punishment at which he excels.
"He's a very angry guy, a hostile guy. He's much like Nixon. So they're very, very careful to choreograph every move he makes. They don't want him anywhere near protestors, because he would lose his temper."
Miller, without question, is a man with a mission — and laughter isn't it.
"I call him the feel bad president, because he's all about punishment and death," he said. "It would be a grave mistake to just play him for laughs."
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| tericee |
Posted - 01/07/2003 : 9:30:39 PM
quote:
Originally posted by PJK
I was in another classroom at school today and I looked around and there was a poster that simply said: LISTEN and SILENT use the same letters! Funny....how many people do we all know that can't be quiet long enough to listen. Just thought I'd pass this one on.
This is off topic but slightly related to Pam's post. My favorite classroom poster was one in my high school chemistry class: THIS IS A LABORATORY, SO LET'S HAVE MORE OF THE FIRST FIVE AND LESS OF THE LAST SEVEN.
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| victorwootenfan |
Posted - 01/07/2003 : 9:27:05 PM
Wow, i kinda thought that already. i just called him a
moron to make fun of em, but this article really hits the
issue on the head. good link Jay! |
| Jay |
Posted - 01/07/2003 : 4:36:35 PM
classroom posters are cool...except the ones in MY classrooms. They suck. I love that article...Bush doesn't fuck up on things he REALLY cares about...like killing and revenge! |
| PJK |
Posted - 01/07/2003 : 4:18:35 PM
Jay, I salute you! You do come up with meaningful posts when they are really needed! Thanks!
I was in another classroom at school today and I looked around and there was a poster that simply said: LISTEN and SILENT use the same letters! Funny....how many people do we all know that can't be quiet long enough to listen. Just thought I'd pass this one on. |
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