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Posted - 06/17/2002 : 11:22:17 PM
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Planet X: Is a Runaway Wrecking Ball Part of Our Solar System?
by Joan d'Arc
Ancient Sumerian texts indicate that the Earth (“Tiamat”) was struck by a large planet, which moved it into its present orbit, and created the Moon and the Asteroid Belt. In his books, The Twelfth Planet and The Cosmic Code, Zecharia Sitchin outlines this “celestial battle” as described in the Babylonian text called Enuma elish.
The planet “Marduk” (the Sumerian “Nibiru”), as it came into the solar system on its clockwise elliptical course, struck Tiamat, which was moving in its ordained counterclockwise orbit. One of Marduk’s satellites struck Tiamat first, followed by two more of Marduk’s moons. Then Marduk itself, an enormous planetary body, struck Tiamat, smashing one half of the planet into pieces, which became the Earth’s Moon and the “Great Band” (Asteroid Belt). The other half of the planet, which was struck by a smaller moon of Marduk, was moved into a new orbit, along with a chunk of material which became its moon. The new planet was then called “KI,” meaning “cleaved one.” The Earth’s original moons were dispersed, many changing the direction of their orbits.
Sitchin has also written in Divine Encounters, the planet where God the creator resides is referred to in the Bible as Olamin, the plural of Olam. The meaning of “olam” in the ancient world was a measure of a really long time, specifically related to the span of time between the periodic disappearance and reappearance of the planet Marduk/Nibiru on its vast 3,600 year elliptical orbit. The domain of Olamin was described as a kingdom which encompasses many worlds. According to Robert Temple, in The Sirius Mystery, the Dogon tribe of Mali call this planet “the egg of the world,” and they say it is the origin of all things. They say of this planet that it is “the center of all things and without its movement no other star could hold its course.” They say it is made of a heavy metallic compound called “sagala.” The Sumerians also wrote that this planetary “god,” Nibiru, “remade our solar system and remakes the Earth on its near passages.”
According to the web site http://xfacts.com, the 12th Planet’s periodic appearance and disappearance from Earth’s view confirms the assumption of its permanence in solar orbit. In this it acts like many comets. The writers ask, why are our astronomers not aware of the existence of this planet? Even an orbit half as long as that of the comet Kohoutek (7,500 years) would take the 12th Planet about 6 times further away from us than Pluto. At this distance, the planet would not be visible from Earth.
The ancient tale of Nibiru’s Celestial Battle is actually scientifically sophisticated, and current advances in astronomy have recently corroborated certain aspects of the Sumerian cosmogony, among them the following:
• The March 16, 1999 announcement by NASA at the 30th Lunar and Planetary Science Conference in Houston of the theory of the origin of Earth’s Moon as a catastrophic collision with a “Mars-size planet.”
• Hubble’s recent discovery of 18 (at last count) stars, and numerous Jupiter-size planets (last count 9) with highly elliptical orbits and retrograde (counterclockwise) orbits. Such orbits are now understood to be quite the norm in nearby solar systems, although they are considered peculiar in our own.
• The 1994 announcement by NASA of a one-mile wide moon orbiting the 33-mile wide asteroid Ida, which follows the expectation that if a planetary body in this solar system exploded (or collided), the debris will be gravitationally bound in orbits around a primary body.
• The discovery of water, atmosphere and perhaps previous life on Mars, the Moon and Europa.
• Why there is a strange gravitational “pull” on Uranus, Neptune and Pluto, which indicates there is another body of significant size beyond it.
Planet X – Myth or Fact?
In an article entitled “A History of Planet X – From the Present Day Search to the Seeding of Life on Earth” (www2.eridu.co.uk/eridu/minisites/ planetx.html), Alan Alford writes that the discovery of new planets in the last two hundred years owes more to mathematics than to bigger telescopes. Mathematical irregularities in the orbits of the outer planets, in particular, strange wobbles and gravitational anomalies noted in the orbits of Uranus, Neptune and Pluto, have prompted astronomers over the past hundred years to search for a large planetary body in the outer solar system. Based on mathematical evidence, astronomers have been so sure of the reality of this planet that they named it Planet X. The name stands for the tenth planet, as well as the mathematical symbol for an unknown quantity.
On June 17, 1982, a NASA press release from Ames Research Center officially recognized the possibility of “some kind of mystery object” beyond the outermost planets. Various press releases around this time confirmed that scientists were indeed looking for the infamous Planet X. For instance, Astronomy magazine published an article in December of 1981 entitled “Search for the Tenth Planet,” and another article in October of 1982 entitled “Searching for a Tenth Planet.”
In addition, Newsweek covered the story of Planet X on June 28, 1982 in an article entitled “Does the Sun Have a Dark Companion?” This article implied that the tenth planet actually orbits a two sun (binary star) system, but we cannot see the other sun because it is a “dark” star. The article stated:
"A ‘dark companion’ could produce the unseen force that seems to tug at Uranus and Neptune, speeding them up at one point in their orbits and holding them back as they pass. … the best bet is a dark star orbiting at least 50 billion miles beyond Pluto… It is most likely either a brown dwarf, or a neutron star. Others suggest it is a tenth planet … since a companion star would tug at the other planets, not just Uranus and Neptune."
The Washington Post covered the story of Planet X on the front page on December 31, 1983 called “Mystery Heavenly Body Discovered.” This story reported that the Infrared Astronomical Satellite (IRAS) detected heat from an object about fifty billion miles away. A report of an interview with chief scientist Gerry Neugebauer from Jet Propulsion Laboratories appeared in the story. The article stated:
"A heavenly body possibly as large as the giant planet Jupiter and possibly so close to Earth that it would be part of this solar system has been found in the direction of the constellation Orion by an orbiting telescope aboard the U.S. infrared astronomical satellite.… ‘All I can tell you is that we don’t know what it is,’ said Gerry Neugebauer, chief IRAS scientist."
The Post article went on to explain that this mysterious object has never been seen by optical telescopes on Earth or in space, but its infrared heat signature was detected twice by IRAS as it scanned the northern sky between January and November of 1983. The second infrared observation of the body, which is so cold it casts no light, noted that the body appeared not to have moved in six months. This suggested that the object is not a comet, since it probably would have moved. The article also explained that the infrared telescope aboard IRAS, which is able to detect very cold objects, calculated that the heavenly body was so cold that its temperature is about 459°F below zero.
Astronomers suggested it was a “giant gaseous planet, as large as Jupiter,” and is so close that “it would be the nearest heavenly body to Earth beyond the outermost planet Pluto.” This would make it part of our solar system. The article explained that there had been some speculation that the object “might be moving toward Earth.” However, Cal Tech’s Neugebauer was careful to “douse that idea with as much cold water as I can.” He pronounced with certainty that this object “is not incoming mail.”
The US News World Report on September 10, 1984 published an article called “Planet X – Is it Really Out There?” This article had the following to say about Planet X:
"Shrouded from the sun’s light, mysteriously tugging at the orbits of Uranus and Neptune, is an unseen force that astronomers suspect may be Planet X – a 10th resident of the Earth’s celestial neighborhood. Last year, the infrared astronomical satellite (IRAS), circling in a polar orbit 560 miles from the Earth, detected heat from an object about 50 billion miles away that is now the subject of intense speculation. "
The article went on to say that scientists are hopeful that the Pioneer 10 and 11 space probes will locate the object, which they noted was possibly a “brown dwarf,” a protostar that never got hot enough to become a star. Others astronomers, however, argue that the object is a “dark, gaseous mass that is slowly evolving into a planet.” The article quoted Neugebauer as stating: “If we can show that our solar system is still creating planets, we’ll know that it’s happening around other stars, too.”
Contrary to this information, according to the ancient Sumerian texts, our solar system is not still creating planets, and this planet has been with us all along. It would appear that the media spin being put on Planet X is a clear attempt to call it something else besides “incoming mail.”
The media was quiet on the subject of Planet X for the next few years. Finally, an article by R. Harrington in The Astronomical Journal dated October 1988 supplied the details of continuing mathematical modeling of this planet. The article suggested the mysterious planet was three to four times the size of Earth, and its position was three times further from the Sun than Pluto. Mathematical modeling also suggested that Planet X had an extreme elliptical orbit of 30 degrees.
A NASA/ARC press release published in Newsweek on July 13, 1987 disclosed that “an eccentric 10th planet may – or may not – be orbiting the Sun.” The article stated that NASA research scientist John Anderson “has a hunch Planet X is out there, though nowhere near the other nine.” The article concluded, “if he is right, two of the most intriguing puzzles of space science might be solved: what caused mysterious irregularities in the orbits of Uranus and Neptune during the 19th Century? And what killed off the dinosaurs 26 million years ago.”
The reference to killing off the dinosaurs seems to indicate that something more is known about this planet than NASA is letting on. Is this in fact a reference to the planet Nibiru of ancient infamy, the planet which, according to ancient sources, did in fact strike the Earth (Tiamat) in ancient times, and gave us a moon for a thank you? Regardless of what NASA really knows, silence is golden, and, for the most part, mum was the word on the issue of Planet X during the 1990s. Instead, scientific journals began to debunk the issue of a tenth solar system planet.
In the 1990s, news stories began to dwell on “runaway planets” and “rebel planets” discovered in other solar systems. The issue of Planet X has now become entirely befuddled with recent discoveries of 18 nearby stars with Jupiter-class planets orbiting them (last count as of October, 1999). (see astron.berkeley.edu) Locating any new developments regarding a tenth solar system planet is akin to finding a needle in a haystack, since it’s difficult to know which “new planet” they are talking about.
For instance, an October 23, 1996 AP article entitled “New rebel planet found outside the solar system,” disclosed the following:
A new planet that breaks all the rules about how and where planets form has been identified in orbit of a twin star about 70 light years from Earth in a constellation commonly known as the Northern Cross. The new planet has a roller coaster like orbit that swoops down close to its central star and then swings far out into frigid fringes, following a strange egg-shaped orbit that is unlike that of any other known planet.
Thus, the issue of Planet X became lost in the information shuffle. Due to the Hubble space probe, many distant galaxies, stars, planets and brown dwarfs are suddenly being discovered all at once. This situation affords NASA the opportunity to attempt to avoid the societal chaos that will surely ensue once everybody realizes that a sizable planet somewhere out there is actually destined to circle our own sun in the next couple of years (2003 according to one web site). After all, who would bother to go to work, go to school, pay their bills, play the stock market, be a loyal, taxpaying John and Jane “Doe,” if they thought the end of civilization was near?
Planet X – The Cover-Up
Contrary to what happens in Hollywood movies, where the government comes clean about comets (actually, in Deep Impact they waited almost a year after official knowledge to announce it to the public), wouldn’t it rather make sense that such an announcement would not be made public, at least too far in advance of D-day? Tom van Flandern of the U.S. Naval Observatory, who was quoted in the 1982 Newsweek article, admits that a tenth planet is possible, but argues that it would have to be so huge that it should have been observed by now. We must admit that there is a serious possibility that more details regarding Planet X are in fact known, but we are not being informed. Is there a major cover-up of Planet X?
This possibility was actually discussed in an article in the CCNet Digest on May 18, 1998 entitled “The Secrets of Asteroid Peril, British Media Smells a Rat.” This article claimed that a report in the London Daily Mail accused US astronomers of trying to cover up scientific data until NASA has a chance to look at the information. The report indicated that “earth-shattering” information, such as the discovery of incoming comets or asteroids, has been ordered to go through NASA first. The Daily Mail report of May 15, 1998 entitled “Delayed Impact, or the Secrets of Asteroid Peril,” stated the following:
"If a giant asteroid is hurtling in the general direction of our planet, we will be the last to know about it. For astronomers have decided that the news would be too earth shattering for ordinary mortals to handle, and would likely cause widespread panic. In a week that sees the release of the film Deep Impact, a fictional account of just such a catastrophe, astronomers funded by the American space agency NASA have now agreed to keep asteroid and comet discoveries to themselves for 48 hours while more detailed calculations are made. The findings would then go to NASA, which would wait another 24 hours before going public."
A Los Angeles AP article on May 19, 1998 also reported on this 72 hour delay rule imposed by NASA on announcements to the public of asteroids or comets by astronomers. The report indicated that these measures were undertaken to avoid the “doomsday alert” which occurred in March of 1998 with regard to an asteroid which was due to collide with Earth in 2028, and which was “soon found to be a mistake.” These new procedures, the article stated, are “not an attempt to hide anything but to make sure the information is accurate.” How can we be sure that if the information is found to be accurate, NASA will not (a) find it to be a “mistake,” or (b) withhold the message for a longer period of time?
X Marks the Spot
In February, 1999, J.B. Murray presented a paper to the Royal Astronomical Society entitled “Arguments for the Presence of a Distant Large Undiscovered Solar System Planet.” (http://www.blackwell-synergy.com). Murray’s paper explored various explanations for what he called a “non-random clustering of long-period comets,” which his research concluded are “aligned along a great circle inclined to both the elliptic and the Galactic plane.” His paper examined the possibility that this non-random clustering was due to “orbital perturbations by an undiscovered object orbiting within the … distances of 30,000 to 50,000 au from the Sun.” Murray’s mathematical modeling predicted that the object would have a retrograde orbit inclined at 120 degrees.
In an October 16, 1999 Economist article entitled “X Marks the Spot,” Drs. Murray and Matese, after looking at the orbits of approximately 300 long-period comets, have separately concluded that too many of them are coming from the same regions of space. They suggest that the galaxy’s “tidal wobble” is “being modulated by the gravity of something big within the Oort Cloud itself.”
The new object must be very faint, these astronomers suggest, or it would have been spotted. This means it’s not a star. They predict that the object is three times the size of Jupiter. They also suggest that the object is not a “proper planet,” because, take note: “its orbit appears to run in the opposite direction from those of the nine known planets.” This is another factoid we can add to the above “anomalous” findings regarding the existence of Marduk/Nibiru. As the Enuma elish tells us, the planet Marduk entered the solar system on its “clockwise, elliptical orbit,” and struck the Earth, which was moving in its “ordained counterclockwise orbit.” So the planet we are looking for will have an orbit which runs in the opposite direction from those of the nine known planets in our solar system. (Chalk another one up for Sitchin.)
According to the above Economist article, the orbit of this object also appears to be so unstable that it is unlikely that it could have maintained this orbit for the 4.5 billion year history of the solar system. Therefore, these astronomers suggest, it is more likely that the object is an extra-solar body that was captured by our sun’s gravity only “recently,” in astronomical terms. (Otherwise, it would have wreaked virtual havoc throughout the history of the solar system. Of course, we are presuming that our neck of the galactic woods is serene because we’ve been left here in peace to “evolve” for so long that Planet X would have to be a relative newcomer to fit into this preconceived scenario.) In any case, these astronomers predict we should be detecting Planet X soon, even if we have to wait for the next generation of infra-red space telescopes.
It’s interesting to note that many of the newly discovered extra-solar planets recently discovered have extremely “eccentric” orbits. It is suggested in “New Discoveries, A Planetary Mystery” (astron.berkeley.edu) that circular orbits may actually not be the rule in nearby solar systems. Nine of the extra-solar objects recently discovered travel in unusually elliptical orbits, “several of them plunging in relatively close to their stars and then swinging far out again.” Several of these planets may be three times as massive as Jupiter, and one is estimated at eleven times the mass of Jupiter.
What these new discoveries are teaching us is that our own solar system may be very unlike others. Even considering our catastrophic past, we may inhabit a relatively peaceful end of the cosmos, as far as galaxies go. As Dr. Geoffrey Marcy explains, powerful gravitational forces exerted over smaller planets by huge planets or passing stars are capable of upsetting their orbits. Likewise, two or more huge planets orbiting in close proximity can generate a “gravitational slingshot” effect, which could fling one of the objects off on an elongated orbit into the inner planetary system, while the other could at the same time fly off in the other direction, perhaps escaping into interstellar space. In another possible scenario, the planet’s own star (sun) could be part of a binary star system, locked in a gravitational embrace.
Although this discussion is being avoided in what little news there is on Planet X, the existence of a mysterious outer solar system planet suggests that we could be living in a two star solar system. What distant gravitational body is causing this planet to make such an enormous wayward loop? One thing is sure, such a companion star would be very capable of exerting a catastrophic influence on the orbits of the outer solar system planets.
As Dr. Marcy writes: “We are realizing that most of the Jupiter-like planets far from their stars tool around in elliptical orbits, not circular orbits, which are the rule in our solar system.” Why our largest planets remain in circular orbits is, therefore, a mystery. As Dr. Marcy notes:
"Jupiter sized bodies plunging toward and away from their stars are likely to sweep aside smaller worlds, sending them crashing into their star or flying out of orbit into interstellar space. Current technology is incapable of detecting Earth-size planets around other stars, but they almost certainly could not exist near their star’s warmth in a system so unsettled by large planets in wrecking orbits."
A huge planet on an elliptical orbit would probably scatter or destroy smaller planets as it crosses their paths time and again. As Dr. Marcy writes, “if our Jupiter were in an eccentric orbit, the Earth and Mars would likely be gravitationally scattered out of the solar system.” Therefore, our very existence, he writes, is dependent upon both Jupiter and Earth being in mutually stable and circular orbits. Lucky for us, we have no big bullies, no freewheeling wrecking balls, in our solar system. Or do we?
Enter Planet X
Interestingly, astronomer Tom Van Flandern wonders if Planet X has actually exploded. In his book, Dark Matter, Missing Planets and New Comets, Van Flandern wonders if this planet was responsible for disruption to the moons of Neptune. In his 1995 paper entitled “Origins of Trans-Neptunian Asteroids,” Van Flandern notes that a new asteroid belt has been discovered beyond Neptune, suggesting that Planet X may have exploded. (On the other hand, why wouldn’t this be the result of one of Planet X’s fly-bys?)
In his book The Phoenix Solution, Alan Alford asks, if Planet X has exploded, why do the Mesopotamian texts imply that it was seen by the Sumerians during the 4th-3rd millennia BC? Alford suggests that the planet Nibiru was not actually seen, and is a “metaphysical” planet. He believes that the descent and ascent of the Egyptian ‘gods’ was metaphysical, and that the Egyptian religion was “an exploded planet cult.” The story of Osiris was based on this exploded planet; the deity Osiris had been mythologically “dismembered” and his body distributed among the other gods in the solar system. The resurrection of Osiris [continued in the Jesus myth] was based on his metaphysical journey to the stars, which restored the exploded planets to their primeval and pristine form; essentially a metaphysical trip back to “The First Time.”
Alford charges that Sitchin has misinterpreted the gods as interplanetary astronauts, and that Planet X actually did not come into the Earth vicinity, but was essentially a “play” or metaphysical replay of an even more ancient event. He also tries to incorrectly establish a Darwinian evolutionary trajectory that implies human evolution was “quickened” by this explosion of planets. This is in fact an anti-Darwinian thesis.
More importantly at this juncture, do I understand correctly that what IRAS spotted in 1983 was a metaphysical planet? So that means that what NASA officials mistook as a heavenly body in the direction of the constellation Orion, which they claimed was possibly as large as Jupiter, and close enough to Earth to be part of this solar system, was a mythological planet? And so the mysterious heavenly orb which mathematicians now predict may be three times the size of Jupiter, with a highly elliptical orbit that runs opposite the other nine planets in the solar system, and a retrograde orbit inclined at 120 degrees, is just the replay of an ancient event in the solar system? As the famous line in Oliver Stone’s JFK goes, “people, we’re through the looking glass here.”
The Hyper-D Physics Connection
In his paper entitled “Hubble’s New Runaway Planet,” (www.enterprisemission.com), Richard Hoagland explains the forgotten 19th Century scientific theories of hyperdimensional physics. These theories were initially proposed over a hundred years ago by various scientists, and were updated in this Century by Faraday and Maxwell. In a nutshell, what hyperdimensional physics tells us is that three dimensional physical phenomena, perhaps including human consciousness itself, are dependent upon higher dimensional realities for their existence.
Hyper-D physics hypothesizes that the basic laws of the three-dimensional world are united in four dimensional space, but merely “look different because of the resulting crumpled geometry of 3-D reality.” This is a major break with Newtonian laws of “action at a distance.” Instead it proposes that such “forces” are a “direct result of objects moving through 3-D space geometry … distorted by the intruding geometry of 4-D space.” In essence, the laws of nature become simpler in higher dimensions because of the effect of geometric spatial distortions in the 3-D world.
The implications stemming from this model—the dynamic hyperspace foundations of reality—completely demolish our current view of reality. For, according to Hoagland’s research, the “tail wags the dog.” Hyper-D physics is the only model that can explain how the planets are completely capable of exerting a determinant influence on the Sun and on each other through their disproportionate ratio of total solar system angular momentum. Suffice to say, according to Hoagland, we are simply entering once again, after 13,000 years (which incidentally is equal to the Mayan “Baktun” cycle) “a phase of this recurring, grand solar system cycle of renewed hyperdimensional restructuring of reality.” And, as Hoagland notes, this may even be due to the presence of a particularly enormous solar system body which has just recently come into view, thanks to the Hubble telescope.
As Hoagland notes, something strange is indeed happening in the solar system. One of the effects is that the official Cesium Atomic Clock has had to be adjusted by over 20 seconds in the last two decades; approximately a full second every six months. The official atomic clock is supposedly theoretically stable to plus or minus one second in a million years. To Hoagland, this suggests that a progressive phase-shift is occurring between the Earth’s rotation and the atomic-level constants that govern the quantum standards of the atomic clock.
The growing difference between dynamic time and atomic time is compelling evidence of large scale changes in the hyperspatial physics of the solar system. It is possible, Hoagland explains, that hyperspatial stresses are due to the progressive orbital movement of as-yet undiscovered outer planets, which are causing increasing scalar potential changes across the entire solar system at the atomic level. The reason the clocks are changing, however, is because the Earth’s rotation is changing. It is essentially slowing down due to changing phase relationships between undiscovered outer planets in the outer solar system! There can be no doubt that something is out there! And this something is quite capable of “making and remaking” the Earth, including seriously affecting the orbital rotation time of the planet.
It’s also interesting to note in this regard that if orbital revolution is directly related to the passage of “time,” does this affect the aging process of the life forms on the planet? Could the presence of Marduk/Planet X be a possible explanation for the longer ages of the Old Testament patriarchs? Also, does “making and remaking the Earth” refer to a higher vibrational consciousness referred to as 4th dimensional consciousness? Is there then a relationship between the end of the Mayan Baktun cycle and the coming of Planet X? In any case, these bizarre “new age” concepts seem to be making more and more scientific sense.
Such a distant and large solar system body will also have a huge effect on total solar hyperdimensional energy generation, Hoagland notes. He explains, unknown “worlds,” or planets, can produce long-term cyclical changes in solar output lasting thousands of years [i.e. a “World Age”?]. In fact, such a geometrical relationship has already been established between the changing positions of Jupiter and Saturn relative to each other. Hoagland wonders, if the known changes in solar output are due to hyperdimensional effects of the largest known planets, what might be the effect of the magnitude of “aether stress” produced by these newfound planets, which have angular momentum contributions hundreds of times greater? He notes that the long-term cyclic increase in solar energy created by those cyclic phasings could measure as much as several percent above current solar output. Needless to say, this could trigger profound climatic changes on Earth.
In short, the idea that advanced extraterrestrial space travelers could apply hyperdimensional technology to engineer orbital catastrophic management projects is actually within the realm of possibility. After all, we must consider the type of technology that would be important to an intelligent civilization living on what constitutes a runaway wrecking ball. Might the technology of such a society be based on the altruistic behavior of running ahead and moving objects out of its path, and running back to tidy up the bowling alley afterward? Might the technology also be based on placing and replacing the genetic stock of life forms on planets on its course? Even more far-fetched, could hyperdimensional technology use light and sound vibrational levers to lift the Earth globe right out of the 3rd dimension in order to avoid a head-on collision with the oncoming planet? Could this be a hint as to the meaning behind the message: “makes and remakes the Earth on its near passage?”
In light of information regarding hyperspace reality, it appears we have come full circle. Human knowledge has a way of biting itself on the ass. For, as the pioneering work of 19th Century physicists tells us: “The existence of unseen hyperspatial realities, through information transfer between dimensions, are the literal ‘foundation substrate’ maintaining the reality of everything in this dimension.”
In assimilating this information into our world view, we have to realize that our science is missing large areas of information with regard to geometric interplanetary relationships in our solar system’s cosmic dance, and the peculiar physics of a shared outer solar system planet or twin sun scenario, and the connection this might have on both Earth’s climate and rotation, and also, as strange as it may sound, on space-time reality and human consciousness.
How much meaning can we, in our modern secular world view, place on the distant effects of interplanetary hyperspace gematria? In our blindness to important scientific discoveries of only a hundred years ago, there is no context to explain these compelling synchronicities. Conceptually speaking, we have nowhere to put this bizarre information. But we need to become aware that a Glass Bead Game of enormous importance is beginning to take shape, and all hands are needed on deck to decipher the mathematical codes of this information. We are being spoken to in a forgotten ancient language, and we’ve got to wake up fast to the meaning of the message.•
http://www.paranoiamagazine.com/23Article.htm
Peace & Keep the Faith
Fluffy          |
| 44 L A T E S T R E P L I E S (Newest First) |
| tericee |
Posted - 09/18/2007 : 06:40:18 AM
quote:
Originally posted by genome
They Might Be Giants has a new kids album out. (Or it's coming out soon...)
Did I miss a segue? |
| dan p. |
Posted - 09/14/2007 : 01:00:06 AM
quote:
Originally posted by MSMARKIERICH
HELLO EVERYONE,
I AM SOMEWHAT CONVINCED THE THE PLANET OF CROSSING NIBURI, IS INDEED REAL AND IS COMING HOW SOON OR WHEN THATS I'M NOT REALLY SURE, BUT OUT OF THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS SINCE I STUMBLED ON MANY ARTICLES REVOLVING AROUND 12/21/2012, I HAVE READ MANY THINGS CONCERNING THIS,SOME I THOUGHT WAS TOTALLY OBSCURED AND WAY OUT , BUT WHEN IT CAME TO OUR ORIGON, AND BIBLICAL TEACHINGS, THIS ALSO GAVE ME SO THOUGHT OF REALISTIC LOGIC, NIBIRI WAS SUPPOSED TO ARIVE IN 2003, BUT FOR SOME REASON I THINK THAT SOME CALCULATIONS ARE OFF, I THINK THERE ARE CLOSE, AAND TOO I DON'T THINK PEOPLE REALLY REALIZE THE REAL AFFECTS NIBURI WILL HAVE ON ALL OF THE PLANETS, YES I DO INDEED BELIEVE OUR GOVERNMENT HAS KEPT SILENT ON THIS TO HELP PREVENT MASS HISTERIA, PEOPLE WILL JUST GO NUTS , AND ALSO I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE MANY OTHER FORMS OF LIFE /ALIENS, OF COURSE I ADMIT I'M NOT TO KEEN ON THE CARNIVOUS ONES AND BE SLAVE TO.
WELL IF ANYONE HAS SOME REASONABLE GOOD IDEAL WHEN NIBURI IS TO ARRIVE PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
THANK YOU
MSMARKIERICH
protips for msmarkierich. protip 1: caps lock is strictly a special ed move. avoid. also making the words bigger doesn't make them less bewildering and confusing. caps lock is for spammers,
protip 2: this isn't english class, and no one is going to bitch about some small grammatical or syntax error. but jesus christ. is english not your first language? i mean, your tenses are fucked, and jesus creeping christ, your conjugations. it's a battlefield, and english lost this day.
protip 3: this thread is 5 years old. the reason it's five years old is because no one has anything to say about it. don't "necro" threads. it's bad form. |
| Arthen |
Posted - 09/13/2007 : 3:30:35 PM
As far as I'm concerned Dan, you are the perfect man for the job. It's what we created you for. |
| dan p. |
Posted - 09/13/2007 : 2:12:56 PM
i'm going to ask permission to field msmark's post. does anyone object? |
| MSMARKIERICH |
Posted - 09/12/2007 : 01:12:19 AM
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HELLO EVERYONE,
I AM SOMEWHAT CONVINCED THE THE PLANET OF CROSSING NIBURI, IS INDEED REAL AND IS COMING HOW SOON OR WHEN THATS I'M NOT REALLY SURE, BUT OUT OF THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS SINCE I STUMBLED ON MANY ARTICLES REVOLVING AROUND 12/21/2012, I HAVE READ MANY THINGS CONCERNING THIS,SOME I THOUGHT WAS TOTALLY OBSCURED AND WAY OUT , BUT WHEN IT CAME TO OUR ORIGON, AND BIBLICAL TEACHINGS, THIS ALSO GAVE ME SO THOUGHT OF REALISTIC LOGIC, NIBIRI WAS SUPPOSED TO ARIVE IN 2003, BUT FOR SOME REASON I THINK THAT SOME CALCULATIONS ARE OFF, I THINK THERE ARE CLOSE, AAND TOO I DON'T THINK PEOPLE REALLY REALIZE THE REAL AFFECTS NIBURI WILL HAVE ON ALL OF THE PLANETS, YES I DO INDEED BELIEVE OUR GOVERNMENT HAS KEPT SILENT ON THIS TO HELP PREVENT MASS HISTERIA, PEOPLE WILL JUST GO NUTS , AND ALSO I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE MANY OTHER FORMS OF LIFE /ALIENS, OF COURSE I ADMIT I'M NOT TO KEEN ON THE CARNIVOUS ONES AND BE SLAVE TO.
WELL IF ANYONE HAS SOME REASONABLE GOOD IDEAL WHEN NIBURI IS TO ARRIVE PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
THANK YOU
MSMARKIERICH |
| Fluffy |
Posted - 08/26/2002 : 02:47:01 AM
Yeah, but the T. Reynolds is kinda kewl!!
Peace & Keep the Faith
Fluffy |
| pcbTIM |
Posted - 08/14/2002 : 03:23:00 AM
Yeah......what a stupid name......Ray
"I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows." |
| Saint Jude |
Posted - 08/06/2002 : 11:53:21 PM
heh, check out the name.
- Without you, without you everything falls apart
Without you, it's not as much fun to pick up the pieces.
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| Fluffy |
Posted - 07/29/2002 : 5:38:41 PM
Seems like good timing or this to go back to the top with all the discussion of impending doom from space on the board right now.
Peace & Keep the Faith
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| Evergreen |
Posted - 07/12/2002 : 08:14:15 AM
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| Saint Jude |
Posted - 07/10/2002 : 4:47:47 PM
From toolband.com
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10 Jul 02
It has been made known to me that Frater Xaphan, while on a magical retirement somewhere in the Pacific Northwest, has been having recurrent dreams involving meteor showers and tidal waves. I wonder if this could have something to do with the much-rumored close approach of a celestial object that I reported about in the current newsletter. The interloper, due to reach its perihelion passage sometime in 2003, is believed by several researchers and astronomers to be either a Dark Star (brown dwarf) or transplutonian planet X; the Winged Disc (called Nibiru by the ancient Sumerians) that journeys through the heavens in an anomalous (retrograde) elliptical orbit as depicted on the cuneiform tablets of Mesopotamia. Others will call it Nu-Isis, after the writings of the British occultist Kenneth Grant, or associate it with the malignant red Set, but whatever we choose to call it, its arrival is thought to wreak havoc on our home planet (don’t fret, the guys are taking the necessary means to survive the cataclysm, although they’re not yet sure if they’ll follow up LaterALus with another CD due to the loss of most of the earth’s population). Other indications of the 3,600 year passage and close approach of such a celestial body might be the appearance of several ‘unknown’ comets in recent years, as well as the recent near-misses of asteroids, one missing hitting the earth by as little as 70,000 miles a couple of weeks ago. In typical fashion, the media reported this very close call a week after it happened. Sleep tight.
- Without you, without you everything falls apart
Without you, it's not as much fun to pick up the pieces.
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| Evergreen |
Posted - 07/10/2002 : 3:53:26 PM
Another interesting piece of info. Pluto, before it was actually observed, but thought to exist, was called Planet X. Up until that TIMe it was 8 planets around our sun. For the longest TIMe many people told the astronomer who suspected Pluto's existance that he was crazy and they were very certain that there were only 8 planets.
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| Evergreen |
Posted - 07/10/2002 : 3:46:08 PM
quote:
I was watching a speacial on the Learning Channel about that huge Satellite in Rio(?) I forget where exactly now
I'm not sure which one is used in Contact because I haven't seen it yet. But I heard the radio telescope used for the movie was Arecibo in Puerto Rico.
http://www.naic.edu/
Here's a list of all telescopes
http://www.cv.nrao.edu/fits/www/yp_telescope.html
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| Fluffy |
Posted - 06/26/2002 : 9:56:34 PM
Just goes to show the true vastness of space and it is pretty arrogant of us to believe would could actually be alone in all of that. We call it a universe but it is definitely a multiverse.
Peace & Keep the Faith
Fluffy |
| KevinLesko |
Posted - 06/26/2002 : 5:42:08 PM
I was watching a speacial on the Learning Channel about that huge Satellite in Rio(?) I forget where exactly now, but it is the one in Contact (and also in a James Bond movie (Goldeneye I think). The fact I found the most interesting was that some of the places that we are sending messages to are sooooo far away that if there ever were to be a response, we wouldn't get it for thousnds of years!
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| Fluffy |
Posted - 06/26/2002 : 04:10:07 AM
They were talking about Planet X or the asteroid? I can't imagine they were talking about Planet X. Pretty much the only place you will hear about that on the radio is Art Bell.
Peace & Keep the Faith
Fluffy |
| enthuTIMsiast |
Posted - 06/25/2002 : 01:04:30 AM
Were they just talking about this on PRM? I think I heard something about it somewhere, and the only radio I ever hear is PRM...I'm sorry, that's Public Radio in Mississippi. To everyone else it might be just PRInternational.
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| Fluffy |
Posted - 06/23/2002 : 09:32:56 AM
They paved paradise and made America a parking lot!!
Peace & Keep the Faith
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| Evergreen |
Posted - 06/22/2002 : 11:03:24 AM
Believe it or not, I haven't read or seen Contact yet so don't tell me the ending. HeeHee. It's been recommended several TIMes.
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I bet Evergreen knew about it with all her daily space exploration.
I did hear about it on the BBC astronomy report on 6/20, WAY after the fact! Close call.
On this particular Thursday, something was moving quietly thru the ionosphere many miles above the surface of the planet; several somethings in fact, several dozens huge yellow chunky slablike somethings, huge as office blocks, silent as birds. They soared with ease, basking in electromagnetic rays from the star Sol, biding their TIMe, grouping, preparing. The planet beneath them was almost perfectly oblivious of their presence, which was just how they wanted it for the moment. The huge yellow somethings went unnoticed at Goonhilly, they passed over Cape Canaveral without a blip, Woomera and Jodrell Bank looked straight thru them, which was a pity because it was exactly the sort of thing they'd been looking for all these years.
People of Earth your attention please: "This is Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz of the Galactic Hyperspace Planning Council. As you will no doubt be aware, the plans for development of the outlying regions of the Galaxy require the building of a hyperspacial express route thru your star system, and regrettably your planet is one of those scheduled for demolition. The process will take slightly less than 2 of your Earth minutes. Thank You".
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| Fluffy |
Posted - 06/21/2002 : 01:22:21 AM
Hey Silky, Now it's time to party like its 1999!!!!!!
Congrats. Watch out for the anal probe.
Peace & Keep the Faith
Fluffy |
| Silky The Pimp |
Posted - 06/21/2002 : 12:47:46 AM
The exception to the rule: Forrest Gump.
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| genome |
Posted - 06/21/2002 : 12:38:49 AM
As in every single case I can think of, I liked the book better. But the movie was very good and close to the book, as with Harry Potter .
I think Carl Sagan is a great writer.
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| Fleabass76 |
Posted - 06/21/2002 : 12:33:16 AM
I liked how Contact stayed pretty true to the book. Even though the end of the book was better...but whatever, Hollywood...
"Women and rhythm section first."
Mr. Jaco Pastorius
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| Fluffy |
Posted - 06/21/2002 : 12:16:56 AM
All very interesting stuff!! Very interesting!!! Hey Evergreen, did you ever see contact. I thought it was a quite enjoyable piece of fluff. One thing it did suggest over and over was the govt's major involvement and interest in SETI and keeping any discovered info from "we the people". Jodie Fosters character fought for "us" hard. It really made the govt look bad, I thought. Like that is really hard to do. HEHE Did anyone catch this today? I bet Evergreen knew about it with all her daily space exploration. Not Planet X but certainly helps to lend creedence to the case.
By THOMAS WAGNER
.c The Associated Press
LONDON (June 20) - An asteroid the size of a soccer field narrowly missed the Earth by 75,000 miles - less than a third of the distance to the moon and one of the closest known approaches by objects of this size, scientists said Thursday.
``In the unlikely event the asteroid had struck Earth in a populated area, it would have caused considerable loss of life,'' said scientist Grant Stokes. ``The energy release would be of the magnitude of a large nuclear weapon.''
Stokes is the principal investigator for the Lincoln Near Earth Asteroid Research Project, whose New Mexico observatory spotted the object last week.
``It was a close shave,'' said another scientist, Brian Marsden of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics in Cambridge, Mass. His organization gathers information on all such encounters.
The asteroid was not detected until three days after it came close to the Earth on June 14. When such asteroids are detected, they are usually spotted well out in space when they are approaching or departing Earth.
The asteroid, provisionally named 2002 MN, was traveling at more than 23,000 mph when it was spotted, Stokes said in a phone interview from Lexington, Mass., where he is associate head of the aerospace division of MIT Lincoln Laboratory.
With a diameter of between 50 and 120 yards, the asteroid was about the size of a soccer field, which tend to be about 105 yards by 75 yards, Stokes said. The size of asteroids is estimated by measuring their brightness, without knowing their composition.
Although lightweight compared with some asteroids, 2002 MN was big enough to have caused devastation similar to the impact of one in Siberia in 1908. On that occasion, an asteroid that exploded above Tunguska flattened nearly 800 square miles of forest. The asteroid's air blast was believed to have done the damage, since no crater was found.
In general, damage on the ground depends on what an asteroid is made of, varying from solid metal to a loosely bound aggregate.
``Looking statistically at the asteroid population, maybe 50 times a year a 100-meter-class asteroid passes within a lunar distance of Earth,'' Stokes said. ``But only a handful of such asteroids that have penetrated the Moon's orbit have been spotted by asteroid search programs.''
Benny Peiser, an expert on near earth objects at Liverpool John Moore's University in England, agreed that most asteroids do not come so close, but noted the latest ``reminder'' comes as Britain tests telescopes on the Spanish island of La Palma to search for the objects.
``Such near misses do highlight the importance of detecting these objects,'' he said.
Currently, there is no dedicated program searching for objects of 2002 MN's size. NASA concentrates its efforts on bodies bigger than a one kilometer (.62 of a mile) across.
``NASA has a goal of discovering and obtaining good orbits for all the near earth objects with diameters larger than 1 kilometer,'' said Thomas Morgan, a scientist at NASA headquarters in Washington. ``Asteroids of this size could potentially destroy civilization as we know it.''
Such asteroids could theoretically hit Earth every million years, or at longer intervals.
Asteroids the size of 2002 MN are estimated to hit the Earth every 100 to several hundred years, causing local damage, but no disaster to civilization or the planet's ecosystem, Stokes said.
``It's something the public should know about, but shouldn't get nervous about,'' he said. ``Civilization has to get used to them on some level.''
06/20/02 22:14 EDT
Peace & Keep the Faith
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| Micheal |
Posted - 06/20/2002 : 2:18:51 PM
Didn't catch Art Bell, never have, but I'm going to try to remember to tune it in. I recorded some GORE musicians last night. My 6 yr old daughter went to bed with images of her dad stocking the fridge with my client's beer. She said this morning she had a bad dream about tasting daddy's beer. I know my first taste was bad, but I was awake.
Speaking of non-drug induced mental states Fluffy, I'm facinated by those freak show yogis who fold themselves up into a tiny plexiglass box and filled with water for like 30 minutes. They control their metabolisim and heart rate and everything from a deep and highly evolved meditative state.
What if Jesus, being a "human" after all, was able to be so masterful?
Would our lord be any less? Doubtful. So it's quite possible that this particular skill would come in handy if you were to walk away from a crucifixion.
In this light it's humorous to think dome housing or food stock piling, or joining a church is an answer to the potential "harvest" like feel of this particular orbit of Nibiru. Like evergreen, I know I'm ready. Maybe I'm a fool, but my little bag is packed with "whatever happends is what will happen"
Cool, I finally was able to quote one of my own songs on the message board. My life is complete.
I think we should all go out and get a new economy car on one of those "no payments till 2003" deals. By the time the first payment is due, Nibiru will in full force. Yeh, the check's in the mail.
Ouch that's gotta hurt!
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| genome |
Posted - 06/20/2002 : 12:20:28 PM
But would the public listen to someone like that? Haven't those people been preaching to us for years about there being ET life? Why would we just pick one day to accpet it?
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| Evergreen |
Posted - 06/20/2002 : 09:57:02 AM
Anyone hear Art's show last night. Very interesting and full of information about Gov't conspiracy in relation to Seti (search for extra terrestrial intelligence)activites. Check out the website for info on last nights show. Very interesting is right. I should have known the gov't would have its hands in the seti surveillance and intercept any information they obtain before the public can hear about it. However, a group of private international radio astronomers is doing a little searching of their own and according to Art's guests(can't remember their names sorry, see website) the US gov't cannot intercept a thing. In fact, they would find out about it when the rest of the world does, which would be immediately following the discovery of ET transmissions. I hope this is really true. Art kept playing devils advocate and saying "yeah, but if gov't officials approached you and threatened you and said this didn't happen and give up the transmission tapes, then what would you do"? "The public would already know about it before they had a chance to intercept" was the response.
Let's hope so!
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| Fluffy |
Posted - 06/20/2002 : 05:07:13 AM
Altered states of consciousness, not talking about the drug induced ones, but the ones brought on by meditation, or by the use of a deprivation tank. The complete absence of distractions from the physical world. Dreamstate. The deep subconscious. I have always thought that there is an untapped world of resources tucked away in that complex mechanism known as the brain. We only use such a small portion of it. There must be a purpose to the rest of it. I feel with all the distractions of the modern world we have lost a little of our spirituality, our deeper self, our true self. We do not use our minds to their fullest potential and this is a true shame. We have billions of years of evolution and experience tucked away in our DNA, our whole evolutionary history. I want to rise to that higher plain of raised consciousness. This is one of the reasons the topic concerning the 13th Hertz intrigued me so much. If I can find the other post, I will put a link to it here. FASCINATING stuff, food for thought!!
Peace & Keep the Faith
Fluffy |
| Silky The Pimp |
Posted - 06/19/2002 : 10:45:50 PM
Sleep is fascinating... there are some very interesting theories and very interesting research done on the subject.
-J
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| LizT |
Posted - 06/19/2002 : 9:22:57 PM
That's an extremely interesting concept Micheal. There were some posts about dreams,lucid dreams and nightmares in another topic. Sleep is truly our escape from reality. I think our minds need the protective mechanism of sleep. Then again, sometimes I wake up and I feel as though I ran a marathon leaving me exhausted. It's very odd how I need less sleep as I get older. I wonder why???
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| Micheal |
Posted - 06/19/2002 : 5:51:25 PM
oops. my goof. must be some synergistic irony there.
Ever interpreted with dream symbols the funny things that you do while you are awake?
Maybe waking state is just as un-important as some people think that sleeping state is un-important.
Maybe through the sleeping state of dreams and the sub-conscious is where our true destiny is hidden and the waking state of the "programmed daytime reality" is "the veil" that hides it from us.
It's quite simply possible that dreaming is just us trying to learn how to create our own reality for any consciousness that we dwell in. A reality where you are free. A reality where anything is possible in such a way that war, fists and bullets are obsolete.
"Did I have the dream or did the dream have me?" peart
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| LizT |
Posted - 06/19/2002 : 4:40:10 PM
Micheal.....Evergreen is a girl! hee hee
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| Micheal |
Posted - 06/19/2002 : 3:56:27 PM
I'm right there with you mr. evergreen. All abord. "the zion train is coming our way". Yes sir, it aint no death wish. "Were not afraid to die when its time for us to die!" "I love the friends that are gathered on this thin raft, we have built pyramids in honor of our escaping."
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| Evergreen |
Posted - 06/19/2002 : 2:08:33 PM
Well, I don't know about anyone else but my bags are packed. My soul has been searched and I'm ready. Any cosmic ride that comes along, I'm taking. Like someone hangin at the train station waiting for the next ride. It's simple for me. I have a lot of big huge questions and they cannot be answered in this dimension, therefore bring on the next phase of my cosmic existence. It's not a death wish, but rather a quest.
I'd also like to be a part of an existence where we were just purely souls with no human flesh around us. I'm so curious how individuals would interact with one another if they couldn't judge physical appearance, but only heart felt, soulful feelings. I think things would be a lot different.
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| Fleabass76 |
Posted - 06/19/2002 : 1:49:26 PM
You know he's right. Planet X explains David Blaine.
"Women and rhythm section first."
Mr. Jaco Pastorius
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| Micheal |
Posted - 06/19/2002 : 1:42:10 PM
I'm a beliver for 4 weeks now! It is near. It seems like the missing link to all the crazy shit that I have been thinking and talking about for the past 22 years concerning: UFOs, Adam&Eve, Jesus, Buddha, GOD, Chaos, Illuminati conspiricies, Alchemy, Tarot, psychedelic herbs and being in the NOW. I started doing heavy planet x research recently and started finding way too much information. That's a problem these days. But I like Sitchin's take, being the only living linguistic expert who can read all those ancient languages and symbols.
Anyway, if this is the END, seems like the TIMe to prepare our souls has passed or is real fucking close. Seems like 911 could have been like a judgement day. Maybe not. Maybe just a wake up call. But I sure saw it divide and unite alot of people in a most obvious way as to which side of reality they chose to support. Many wear their choice on ther sleave or on their car antenna. But GOD knows who we are from the inside out.
"YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE" ministry
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| Fleabass76 |
Posted - 06/19/2002 : 12:03:24 PM
I used to listen to Art Bell like 5 years ago. I haven't even thought about it recently, but since I'm up late all the time now, I'll have to try and find him...
"Women and rhythm section first."
Mr. Jaco Pastorius
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| Evergreen |
Posted - 06/19/2002 : 10:45:08 AM
Beat me too it....I was going to give the ART BELL link.
They just discussed the theory of planet X the other night
on the radio show. In fact it's a very common topic of discussion
on Art's show along with a million other things that's candy for the mind.
AWESOME!!!!!
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| Fluffy |
Posted - 06/19/2002 : 02:54:38 AM
The Art Bell Show is a syndicated radio show you can find almost anywhere in the country. They have been talking about it on there alot lately. You guys might want to check it out. Even if they are not talking about Planet X, they are talking about some interesting subject, usually some sort of conspiracy. You can find out more at:
http://www.artbell.com/
The show is always worth a listen. Check it out sometime. Here is a link to Past Shows Program Archive.
http://www.artbell.com/topics.html
Lots of interesting subjects can be found there. Find one that interests you and give it a listen.
Hey Fleabass, 13th Hertz Theory is another I am not familiar with. If you have anymore info I would love to check it out. You can post info on it in the Thread about Secret Societies and Conspiracies. Thanx
Peace & Keep the Faith
Fluffy |
| Captain Petersburgh |
Posted - 06/18/2002 : 1:27:06 PM
wow. i never new. thankls for the heads up.
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| LizT |
Posted - 06/18/2002 : 08:42:48 AM
Thanks for the excellent read Fluffy. It's the first I've heard of it.
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| Fleabass76 |
Posted - 06/18/2002 : 02:55:54 AM
ALL of that info is awesome, thanks Fluff. Do you know anything about the 13 Hertz theory? The resonance of the Earth, which in theory might go up, possibly causing human conciousness to transcend to a new level?
"Women and rhythm section first."
Mr. Jaco Pastorius
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| genome |
Posted - 06/18/2002 : 01:18:24 AM
They Might Be Giants has a new kids album out. (Or it's coming out soon...)
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| dirtysloth |
Posted - 06/17/2002 : 11:48:02 PM
When I went down to my uncle's in Chattanooga for a Tim show we had a huge discussion about Nibiru. At the time he was writing a series of songs about it. Really jazzy stuff on the piano... and yet singing about planets and such. Neat stuff. I'll have to check back with him and see what he's come up with. I've forgotten all about that until now.
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