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thewayfarer
Is Anybody Here?
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 Posted - 08/05/2002 : 10:44:47 PM
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Okay I'm really sorry if there has been a thread like this in the recent past. I did a search and none came up so I wanted to start one. I just finished Ishmael as suggested by some people in a recent post and was completely knocked on my ass. I don't know if any beliefs about life, religion, god, evolution etc. that I've held since I was a kid were NOT changed in some way while I was reading this book. So now I'm hooked on these knock-me-on-my-ass books, and want to know if anybody can suggest any others?
"Underneath you know well you have nothing to fear, for the dreams that came to you when so young, told of a life where spring is sprung."
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KevinLesko
Alien Abductee
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Posted - 08/06/2002 : 12:26:24 AM
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You've got me curious as to what it changed about your beliefs? Is it a pro religion book?
The only book I've had a chance to read in the past month or so is Noam Chompsky's book on 911, and I can definately say that it knocked my socks off in the respect that I had no idea that our nation was the top terrorist country in the world in the eyes of almost every other country. Some very enlightening stuff in that book!
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KevinLesko
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Fluffy
Administrator
USA
10739 Posts |
Posted - 08/06/2002 : 12:50:38 AM
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Daniel Quinn "Ishmael"
Daniel Quinn "Story of B"
Daniel Quinn "My Ishmael"
Noam Chomsky "Rogue State" or anything by him
Jack Herer "The Emperor Wears No Clothes"
Larry Sloman "Reefer Madness"
Ward Churchill "A Little Matter of Genocide"
Tammy Bruce "The New Thought Police: Inside the Left's Assault on Free Speech and Free Minds"
Ward Churchill "The Cointelpro Papers: Documents from the FBI's Secret Wars Against Dissent in the United States"
Ward Churchill "Agents of Repression"
Hunter S Thompson "Fear & Loathing In Las Vegas"
anything by Charles Bukowski
anything by Alexie Sherman
William Lyne "Pentagon Space Aliens"
for more info check out: http://members.tripod.com/~lyne4lyne/
Jon Wiener "Gimme Some Truth:The John Lennon FBI Files"
Tony Fletcher "Moon" (What RnR is really all about)
The Essential Howard the Duck by Steve Gerber (Just Released)
Pablo Neruda "The Captain's Verses" (This is GREAT poetry, be warned)
Fred Goodman "The Mansion on the Hill"
Ward Churchill "Fantasies of the Master Race"
Rolling Stone The 70's: A Tumultuous Decade Reconsidered
John Knowles "Seperate Peace"
Pierre Boulle "Planet of the Apes" Completely different from the movie based on this book
Norman Juster "The Phantom Tollbooth"
Gina Arnold "Route 666: The Road to Nirvana"
Maurice Sendak "Where the Wild Things Are"
Abbie Hoffman "Steal This Book"
Or "Soon To Be a Major Motion Picture"
this second one is not what it may seem from the title: Believe it or not, Abbie Hoffman has written an inspirational classic. In his chatty boasts and anecdotes, Abbie offers a paean to a life spent seizing the moment and experiencing everything life has to offer. If you're attempting to do anything that goes against the grain, read this for a wealth of inspiration. It's really a wonderful testament to living up to what you want to be, regardless of society's expectations.
Tom Wolfe "Electric Kool Aid Acid Test"
Any books on painter/artist Mark Rothko or the Rothko Chapel
books by Deepak Chopra
Peace & Keep the Faith
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enthuTIMsiast
Alien Abductee
6990 Posts |
Posted - 08/06/2002 : 01:49:12 AM
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While not specifically knock on the ass-ing, I'd suggest these books to ANYONE!
Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card, my alltime fav.book.
The Missing Piece Meets the Big O. - Shel Silverstien
East Of Eden - Steinback
Ender's Shadow - OSC
Flatline (author escapes me right now)
The Fountainhead - Ayn Rand
Ender's Game is the only book I've read more than once. That says a hell of a lot. I've read it 4 times.
I am not the albatross of love, I am the human elipse. I am dot dot dot. |
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Fluffy
Administrator
USA
10739 Posts |
Posted - 08/06/2002 : 02:11:02 AM
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Oh my god, I must agree with Jason, how could I have forgotten Ayn Rand "The Fountainhead"? Shame on me. Another inspired by Jasons comments: Shel Silverstein "A,B,Z Book", and this one is not for the kiddies. HILARIOUS!!!
Peace & Keep the Faith
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pcbTIM
Alien Abductee
USA
6501 Posts |
Posted - 08/06/2002 : 03:24:39 AM
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Hmmmm.....good books?
Jurassic Park (Crichton)
The Lost World (Same)
Timeline (Also Crichton.......what I found very interesting about this book was the explanation of quantum physics used to enable "TIMe travel".......although they didnt call it that.....and almost the entire book takes place in the Middle Ages)
The Firm (Clancy)
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (Adams)......get all five books of the trilogy
The Things They Carried (can't remember author........it's about the man's experiences in the Vietnam War......I loved it)
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MC
Try A Little Harder
USA
75 Posts |
Posted - 08/06/2002 : 11:44:38 AM
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Mr. Hermann Hesse's Siddhartha
I definitely dont consider myself an avid reader, but of the ones I have finished, thats my fav.
Michael Moore's book is pretty good, eye-opening and funny.
His DVD set (complete season 1 and 2) of the Bravo show, The Awful Truth is quite awesome - maybe the best skit being when he drove around with a trailer full of high school kids to each democratic presidental candidate, met them on camera and said he would endorse whichever candidate jumped off the trailer into a mosh pit of high school kids while blairing Rage Against the Machine's Guerilla Radio, I'll let you watch the dvds to find out with candidate won THe Awful Truths bid. I love that guy.
"Turn it into love, man. Whatever's fucked up in the world, just turn it into love. Take in the bad and give out the good, otherwise we're all gonna die and go to hell." T.R. |
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Xar666
Yak Addict
USA
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My_Bad_Side
Alien Abductee
2000 Posts |
Posted - 08/10/2002 : 01:01:07 AM
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I think Travels is Michael Crichton's best work.
I'm schizophrenic. And so am I. am I. am I. am I. |
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KevinLesko
Alien Abductee
3712 Posts |
Posted - 08/10/2002 : 01:08:16 AM
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The original version of Mary Shelly's Frankenstein was a really cool book.
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Jay
Alien Abductee
Vatican City
2279 Posts |
Posted - 08/10/2002 : 01:46:00 AM
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For a laugh or two, read "Big Trouble" by Dave Barry...damn, If any book besides Fear and Loathing cna make you laugh, It's this...
As far as my fav. book I've read as of yet, it would have to be Dreamcatcher by SK...becasue for now I am confined to my parent's library.
Jay
" It's a scavenger hunt in the best of times, a one armed man with a box of dimes. Throw the stick and let the bulldog roll." KJP |
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My_Bad_Side
Alien Abductee
2000 Posts |
Posted - 08/10/2002 : 5:15:30 PM
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Did I mention Ender's Game yet? I know everyone here is about as likely to read my suggestion as I am to read theirs, but hey, it's worth a shot. This is seriously a great book. And it's simply written, and only *technically* sci-fi. The story itself isn't sci-fi. The setting is. But if you have 4 extra dollars, get this book.
I'm schizophrenic. And so am I. am I. am I. am I. |
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pcbTIM
Alien Abductee
USA
6501 Posts |
Posted - 08/14/2002 : 03:37:07 AM
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Xar said:quote:
Howard Zinn - A People's History of the United States
Definetely! How could have I forgotten that? My AP US History teacher made us read that along with our 1000 page textbook. You can tell he knew what he was doing. It also had a free advertisement in Good Will Hunting.
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Fluffy
Administrator
USA
10739 Posts |
Posted - 08/26/2002 : 03:32:51 AM
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Who can tell me more about this book Ishmael? Sounds interesting but I don't know a thing about it. Hopefully 90% of the books I mentioned will knock you on your ass or at least kick you in your ass. There is some really heavy reading listed in there. Not for the weak of HEART.
Peace & Keep the Faith
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Fluffy
Administrator
USA
10739 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2002 : 8:44:37 PM
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Did you ever decide on a book wayfarer? Were any of our suggestions helpful? I still haven't heard anymore about Ismael. Still very interested in hearing more.
Peace & Keep the Faith
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tericee
Alien Abductee
USA
2579 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2002 : 01:52:38 AM
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Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card, my alltime fav.book.
Ender's Shadow - OSC
I totally agree on the Ender thing. Orson Scott Card is THE MAN when it comes to those books. I seem to be the only person that also likes Speaker for the Dead and Xenocide, but now that Ender's Shadow and Shadow of the Hegemon are out, there is sort of a complete trilogy that most people will LOVE. Lost Boys, which has only the title in common with the movie of the same name, is also a good O.S. Card book.
If you like Ender, I also recommend Starship Troopers. It is WAY better than the movie. Totally different. And different is good.
teri 
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tericee
Alien Abductee
USA
2579 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2002 : 01:56:11 AM
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I still haven't heard anymore about Ishmael. Still very interested in hearing more.
From Amazon.com: The narrator of this extraordinary tale is a man in search for truth. He answers an ad in a local newspaper from a teacher looking for serious pupils, only to find himself alone in an abandoned office with a full-grown gorilla who is nibbling delicately on a slender branch. "You are the teacher?" he asks incredulously. "I am the teacher," the gorilla replies. Ishmael is a creature of immense wisdom and he has a story to tell, one that no other human being has ever heard. It is a story that extends backward and forward over the lifespan of the earth from the birth of time to a future there is still time save. Like all great teachers, Ishmael refuses to make the lesson easy; he demands the final illumination to come from within ourselves. Is it man's destiny to rule the world? Or is it a higher destiny possible for him-- one more wonderful than he has ever imagined?
teri
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
4845 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2002 : 03:45:00 AM
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Books, I'm going to have to say:
Fight Club, book was better than the movie, and seeing how good the movie was says a lot about the book.
If you want a frightening, stomach churning book read: American Pyscho.
Lord of the Rings, Hobbit, Silmarillion. J.R.R. Tolkien.
The Hammer and the Cross, Harry Harrison
The Stand, Stephen King
Good Omens, Neil Gaimen and Terry Pratchet (Hilarious Book)
Catch-22, Joseph Heller,
One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest
Othello, Shakespeare (Iago rocks!)
I Am Legend, (CAn't think of the name!)
Those are just some of my fav books, I've got so many more I can't think this late though...
"Don't drink the pickle juice from the pickle jar, until all the pickles are gone."
-Son of a Boss
Arthenc@hotmail.com
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Fluffy
Administrator
USA
10739 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2002 : 07:37:25 AM
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Thanx Teri, sounds very kewl, I am definitely gonna have to add that to my search and destroy list. Thanx for hipping me to the groove. Luv ya sis!!
Peace & Keep the Faith
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SourGirl
Try A Little Harder
USA
53 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2002 : 2:14:10 PM
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I just finished helping Kaleigh (Revrendmaynard) do a project for her writing class and it was on the book Dantes Inferno, I hadn't ever read it so I figured to help her make a good project I should read it and damn. That book is insane. If you guys haven't read it, do.
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pcbTIM
Alien Abductee
USA
6501 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2002 : 5:27:56 PM
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Yeah.....that Dante is one sick motherfucker.
"A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable but more useful than a life spent doing nothing." - George Bernard Shaw |
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tericee
Alien Abductee
USA
2579 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2002 : 8:13:01 PM
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Books, I'm going to have to say:
Fight Club, book was better than the movie, and seeing how good the movie was says a lot about the book.
Woo Hoo! I just bought Fight Club on Sunday. Haven't started reading it yet since I had a killer migraine yesterday. I'll go home and start tonight!
teri
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LizT
Fluffy-Esque
USA
1687 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2002 : 8:35:21 PM
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Hi Teri! I can relate to the migraine thing, I've been getting very frequent lately. STRESS!!!!!!
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pcbTIM
Alien Abductee
USA
6501 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2002 : 9:55:37 PM
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Stress stinks! Arid works!
"A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable but more useful than a life spent doing nothing." - George Bernard Shaw |
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thewayfarer
Is Anybody Here?
USA
37 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2002 : 10:04:08 PM
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Hey Fluffy, thanks for the list, and thanks to everyone for the suggestions. The second Abbie Hoffman book you mentioned actually sounds like something I NEED to read. I'm kind of in a rut and school has just started, but I'll hopefully get the chance to pick it up. "Agents of Repression" sounds really good too, as well as does Dante's Inferno.
EnthuTIMsiast, you are right about East of Eden. Such a kick ass book. Steinbeck is one of my favorite authors.
"Underneath you know well you have nothing to fear, for the dreams that came to you when so young, told of a life where spring is sprung."
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Fluffy
Administrator
USA
10739 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2002 : 10:32:54 PM
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Let us know what you think of anything you end up reading. ENJOY I just love books!!
Peace & Keep the Faith
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enthuTIMsiast
Alien Abductee
6990 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2002 : 01:59:03 AM
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Anyone here ever heard of Ender's Game? It's a great book, and easy and fast to read...(come on guys, we all love something easy and fast). Great book. I wholeheartedly recommend it and it's twin, Ender's Shadow. ES might actually be better...
YES, Steinbeck is one of my favorite authors, simply for East of Eden. I've read a few others, but that's the best. The ending is disappointing (almost like he just gave up), but the whole of the book by far makes up for it. It's just great. He's a great writer. Longwinded, but very very descriptive. Glad you like that, too. Take a look, it's in a book...
Peace, and spread the potatos.
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Fluffy
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tericee
Alien Abductee
USA
2579 Posts |
Posted - 09/26/2002 : 12:47:37 AM
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I finished Fight Club last week. It was VERY close to the movie, except for a few key parts. The book also continued a chapter or two past the ending of the movie, which I enjoyed.
Unfortunately, since I had already seen the movie, I couldn't dive into the book as an unsuspecting reader. As I read, I tried to figure out if I would have been strung along by the book as long as I was by the movie. I think there's just no way to know. Oh well.
I think somebody had mentioned (either on this message board or in a conversation with me) that Marla might be an alter-ego. After reading the book I don't think she is. But I wouldn't stake my life on that.
Bottom Line: It was still worth reading even though I had seen the movie. I highly recommend it.
teri
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Fluffy
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USA
10739 Posts |
Posted - 09/27/2002 : 05:05:36 AM
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Enders Game came up again this week on the road while we were talking about books. I think Erich brought it up. I also keep getting a recommendation for TR to read a book called "Dynamic Symmetry". He mentions it every time I bring up sychronicity. I am really excited to check it out but have not had a chance yet. I thought I would pass the recommendation along to everyone else. Thought everyone might want a little more info on SYNCHRONICITY which I always seems to mention. Read Away!!!
Peace & Keep the Faith
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GuitarGuy305
Alien Abductee
USA
2007 Posts |
Posted - 09/27/2002 : 2:40:11 PM
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I like Tom Clancy and John Grishams stuff. The Butch Carp novels by Robert K. Tanenbaum are really good.
I just finished Hit List by Lawrence Block, also a very good read.
Not very philisophically stimulating choices I know, but oh well  I will check out some of Fluffy's and others picks though
Adam
Everybody's talkin' at me, I can't hear a word they're sayin'...Just driving 'round in Jon Voight's car...
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bugman96
Chatterbox
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Posted - 09/28/2002 : 12:51:32 AM
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East Of Eden - Steinback
Yes!!!! This book is awesome. I recommend the following Steinbeck book's:
To a God Unknown
Cannery Row
Sweet Thursday
The Pearl
The Winter of Our Discontent
Grapes of Wrath
other books
Cat's Cradle - Vonnegut
PLayer Piano - Vonnegut
Slaughterhouse 5 - Vonnegut
Night - Elie Wiesel
Deep River - Sushako Endo
Clockwork Orange - Burgess
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Fluffy
Administrator
USA
10739 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2002 : 09:17:08 AM
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I was going thru alot of old posts to the email list and I found this note from TR with a book recommendation so I thought I would post it for all to enjoy.
Date: Tue Sep 26, 2000 3:35 am
Greetings earthlings, I come in pieces on the road. I don,t know what
planet I was originally from, but surely not this one. Dreamtime is a
beautiful place to be, and thats also where another part of us comes
from and goes to. Be sure to read," Training the Mind", by Chogyum
Trungpa, on Shambala Books. Revelation will ensue, as will revolution
of the mind, the most dangerous thing you can change. As Marc Bolan
once said...Rock On!!!!!
TR Interstellar Traveler in my mind.
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KevinLesko
Alien Abductee
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Posted - 10/12/2002 : 5:53:32 PM
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Cool, I bought that book about 2 years ago. There is some very deep teachings involved. One of the best lessons I got from that book was the idea of a particular part of Buddhism (i think thats what it was) that told the advantages of not having preconcieved notions when going into something new. Made perfect sence to me, because whenever I imagined how something might be, I would always be way off and often dissapointed.
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KevinLesko
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Posted - 10/12/2002 : 5:56:48 PM
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Bugman mentioned Clockwork Orange.
If you like that, you might like the original book of Rules of Engagment. (yup, its the same as that new movie out with that wretched sissy Dawson). Actually Im interested in seeing how much the movie gets away with, or how close it is to the book because much like Clockwork, there lots and lots of sexuality and violence.
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enthuTIMsiast
Alien Abductee
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Posted - 10/19/2002 : 7:06:05 PM
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quote:
I recommend the following Steinbeck book's:
To a God Unknown
Cannery Row
Sweet Thursday
The Pearl
The Winter of Our Discontent
Grapes of Wrath
Gonna have to throw a flag on that Steinbeck book. Like the movie, I found that this book was boring and painful. But that's just one of his books. I still LOVE East Of Eden.
And I can't even begin to bring myself to slog thru Rogue States. I've tried, believe me. I'm just not that political minded. |
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I am not the albatross of love, I am the human ellipsis. I am dot dot dot. - Leo Kottke
I hate beating people over the head with anything. We can all make up our own minds. What we don’t have is enough music. More music please. - Leo Kottke |
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Fluffy
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USA
10739 Posts |
Posted - 10/22/2002 : 9:55:30 PM
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Perfect timing, we are back to Noam. Last nite I saw Billy Bragg at the club and he said he has been called the "Singing Noam Chomsky". I got quite a kick out of that. He had alot of kewl things to say and sing. I now think of him as the folk version of TR. You should check out his book,
Still Suitable For Miners
REVISED AND UPDATED EDITION
Published Feburary 7, 2002
This is how Virgin Books described the book:
"The first and only biography of this legendary songwriter is fully authorised and includes a foreword by the man himself. This new edition has been revised and updated, and recounts Billy’s political activity over the last four years as well as the work on his new album, England, Half English.
Ex-punk, ex-soldier, ex-member of the Labour Party, Billy Bragg is one of the few remaining left-wing icons of the 80s. As the founder of Red Wedge, he created the first politicised union of musicians. Perhaps most well-known for his passionately political lyrics, Bragg is also admired for his offbeat love songs. Billy is a rebel in every sense – he has repeatedly refused to follow the conventions of the music industry, selling his records at affordable prices whilst supporting unfashionable causes and tiptoeing into the charts with heartfelt songs about urban decay and callous governments. Still Suitable For Miners is the story behind this one-off man, who has proven again and again that pop music is an art form which still has something to say about political causes, and, thank goodness, a sense of humour.
Starting out in punk bands (his unfortunate moniker was Billy Bonkers), Billy rose from his working class origins to become one of the UK’s foremost protest singers in the 1980s. With songs like Between The Wars and A New England, Billy became a central figure both in pop music and in the politicised music arena that appeared during that decade. The failure of Neil Kinnock to take power led to the demise of Red Wedge but Billy’s career has continued to grow. In 1998 Billy was chosen, above many big names such as Bob Dylan, Neil Young and Bruce Springsteen, to write and record music for previously unheard lyrics left by the legendary American protest singer Woodie Guthrie, who died in 1967. This recognition of Billy as the ‘spiritual heir’ to Guthrie has given him the status he has long deserved as one of the foremost protest singers of our time
Billy Bragg’s life encapsulates so much about his generation: born in the 50’s with politics shaped by Thatcherism, passions forged by punk and hope provided by the end of the cold war. Yet his story is also unique: Billy is a British institution that will never go out of fashion – a peerless entertainer and fearless campaigner. Still Suitable for Miners is the fascinating story of Billy Bragg’s life as a much-loved maverick and idiosyncratic icon of leftfield pop.
MORE ON MY AMAZING BILLY BRAGG EVENING IN A FUTURE POST
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Peace & Keep the Faith
Fluffy
"THE MUSIC BUSINESS IS A CRUEL AND SHALLOW MONEY TRENCH-- A LONG PLASTIC HALLWAY WHERE THIEVES AND PIMPS RUN FREE AND GOOD MEN DIE LIKE DOGS. THERE'S ALSO A NEGATIVE SIDE..." -Hunter S. Thompson |
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GuitarGuy305
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USA
2007 Posts |
Posted - 10/25/2002 : 12:09:42 AM
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I just finished reading The Mothman Prophecies by John A. Keel. As soon as I finished reading it, I turned back to the first page and began to read it again. The book really got me thinking about UFOs ( I no longer belive in aliens from outer space visiting us), psychic powers, bigfoot, the loch ness monster, MIBs (The real ones not will smith), any and all religious visions, etc throughout time....the list goes on. It's a book that will probably freak you out, but it's a good read.
It is all based on true events. Read the book, don't see the movie.
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chatterballs
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117 Posts |
Posted - 10/25/2002 : 02:41:19 AM
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"The Time Machine" by HG Wells
A quick easy read, better than both movies, an interesting idea of the future of mankind. |
Turns out, not where, but who you're with, that really matters. |
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Fluffy
Administrator
USA
10739 Posts |
Posted - 10/28/2002 : 08:22:50 AM
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Chomsky for Beginners
See this thread for lots of info about this one:
http://www.timreynolds.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2616
Thanx to Teri and Kevin for bringing it to my attention. |
Peace & Keep the Faith
Fluffy
"THE MUSIC BUSINESS IS A CRUEL AND SHALLOW MONEY TRENCH-- A LONG PLASTIC HALLWAY WHERE THIEVES AND PIMPS RUN FREE AND GOOD MEN DIE LIKE DOGS. THERE'S ALSO A NEGATIVE SIDE..." -Hunter S. Thompson |
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tericee
Alien Abductee
USA
2579 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2002 : 11:55:57 AM
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I just finished reading "Wicked: The Life and Times of the Wicked Witch of the West." It's not a must read, but it was pretty interesting. It's all about WHY the wicked witch of the west was who she was and tells the whole story of Oz from her point of view. It gets into the whole politics of Oz and suggests that the wizard was the most evil one of all.
I plan to read his other book, "Confessions of an Ugly Stepsister," at some point in the near future. If it's half as good, it should be quite enjoyable. |
teri
Twittering about the DC adventure since Dec '09...
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drummerboy82
Chatterbox
USA
118 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2002 : 01:44:32 AM
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Originally posted by Arthen
Good Omens, Neil Gaimen and Terry Pratchet (Hilarious Book)
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All you need is a modest house in a modest neighborhood,
In a modest town where honest people dwell. -dredg
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Nick Quiller
Is Anybody Here?
USA
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Posted - 11/12/2002 : 03:34:13 AM
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Clive Barker-Imajica
-The Great and Secret Show
Dean Koontz-Shattered
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Fluffy
Administrator
USA
10739 Posts |
Posted - 11/13/2002 : 03:12:15 AM
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Hey Teri, is that the book I got for you? I hope so because that means you loved my choice.
A new TR recommendation for all:
"The End of Days: Fundamentalism and the Struggle for the Temple Mount" by Gershom Gorenberg.
Hey Teri, I wonder if dad has read this one. I am scared to ask him as you can imagine. HEHE |
Peace & Keep the Faith
Fluffy
"THE MUSIC BUSINESS IS A CRUEL AND SHALLOW MONEY TRENCH-- A LONG PLASTIC HALLWAY WHERE THIEVES AND PIMPS RUN FREE AND GOOD MEN DIE LIKE DOGS. THERE'S ALSO A NEGATIVE SIDE..." -Hunter S. Thompson |
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thomasode
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Posted - 01/10/2003 : 7:07:42 PM
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| I'd suggest the book Survivor by Chuck Palahinuk. Great book |
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thomasode
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Posted - 01/10/2003 : 7:10:54 PM
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| or Marathon Man by Goldman |
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pcbTIM
Alien Abductee
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Posted - 01/15/2003 : 7:05:17 PM
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| I just finished reading Michael Crichton's new book, Prey. It's about nanotechnology and how swarms of these microscopic AI escape a lab and start tearing up the place. Pretty good, but not as good as some of his other stuff. |
Gay marriage killed the dinosaurs. |
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tericee
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USA
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Posted - 01/15/2003 : 9:56:22 PM
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Hey Teri, is that the book I got for you? I hope so because that means you loved my choice.
You know, I thought Dad gave it to me, but it may have been you after all. If so, THANK YOU!! One of my co-workers has just finished the author's other book -- Confessions of an Ugly Stepsister -- and is planning to loan it to me next week. I guess I should finish Catch Me If You Can before that.
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PJK
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Posted - 04/08/2003 : 9:16:54 PM
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Just got a new book tonight, Michael Connelly's City of Bones
which takes place LA. (fiction ofcourse) I can't wait to read it. Started it in the store and I'm going to snuggle up in my bed in afew hours and read! |
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monkeyman41
Try A Little Harder
USA
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Posted - 04/08/2003 : 9:27:46 PM
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Catcher in the Rye is my alltime favorite book
a separate peace was listed but is an excellent book
Shoeless Joe is good
and one of my altime favorites
A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius: Based on a True Story |
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Fleabass76
Fluffy-Esque
USA
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Posted - 04/08/2003 : 10:21:31 PM
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| Sorry, I'm too tired to read all the books mentioned..so sorry if this is a repeat, but I think every American should be required to read "Lies My Teacher Told Me" by James Loewen. |
Robots are the enemy? Hmm... |
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tericee
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USA
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Posted - 04/08/2003 : 10:44:16 PM
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Somebody recently told me that Jaws was a much better book than movie, so I may read that next time I need an airplane book...
If you're into computers, two good (but out of date) books are Cuckoo's Egg and Microserfs. |
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PJK
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Posted - 04/08/2003 : 10:45:25 PM
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| Teri it is, the book is more about the people, the movie about the shark! I read the book years ago before I saw the movie. |
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pcbTIM
Alien Abductee
USA
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Posted - 04/09/2003 : 06:40:05 AM
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Originally posted by tericee
Somebody recently told me that Jaws was a much better book than movie, so I may read that next time I need an airplane book...
One of my friends from high school had a funny quote. Whenever someone would say "You have to read the book. It's so much better than the movie." He would reply: "Yeah? Well I watched the movie. It took me about 2 hours, and then I took a nap......bitch." |
Gay marriage killed the dinosaurs. |
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Evergreen
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Posted - 04/09/2003 : 11:10:07 AM
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Fast Food Nation by Eric Schlosser. A must must must read!
Its kind of heavy reading in that the amount of startling information is huge and engulfing. For all of you folks that like the conspiracy theory stuff you'll love it. But everyone should read it.
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tericee
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Posted - 04/09/2003 : 11:30:34 AM
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| Perfect! I'm waiting to borrow Fast Food Nation from a friend when she finishes. |
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Posted - 04/09/2003 : 8:18:26 PM
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How about:
Walker Percy's The Moviegoer
Kurt Vonnegut's Slaughterhouse-Five
William Faulkner's The Sound and The Fury
Shakespeare's MacBeth
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Fluffy
Administrator
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Posted - 06/10/2007 : 5:10:37 PM
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Just finished "Me Talk Pretty One Day" by David Sedaris
Diane recommended it and after 2 pages I couldn't put it down. I read it in one afternoon which for me is unusual. Hope someone else out there enjoys it as much as I did.
Also, I think I mentioned it somewhere else, "The Book Thief" by Markus Zusak
Not the kinds of books I generally seek out and read usually, but after my "Ishmael" discovery and the fact that it had been recommended so many TIMes to me and then finding out how much I loved it I figured maybe I should give some other books being recommended a chance. Happy to say I took a chance on both of these and really dug them. "Me Talk Pretty One Day" had me LOL all the way thru it. |
Peace & Keep the Faith
Fluffy
"THE MUSIC BUSINESS IS A CRUEL AND SHALLOW MONEY TRENCH-- A LONG PLASTIC HALLWAY WHERE THIEVES AND PIMPS RUN FREE AND GOOD MEN DIE LIKE DOGS. THERE'S ALSO A NEGATIVE SIDE..." -Hunter S. Thompson |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
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Posted - 06/10/2007 : 9:00:09 PM
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me talk pretty one day is a hilarious book, and i recommend it to everyone.
i also recommend hp lovecraft anything. |
death to false metal. |
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Zachmozach
Fluffy-Esque
USA
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Posted - 06/10/2007 : 11:17:26 PM
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The Tao of Physics
The Art of Happiness
Nemisis- Chalmers Johnson
The Hidden Messages in Water
The Self Aware Universe
Those are couple I've like in the last year. I'll have to check out Me Talk Pretty One Day since I pretty much love all the other books you've recommended Fluffy.
Oh and Lila by Robert Pirsig. He wrote Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance. Fluffy I think you especially would totally dig this book. |
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tericee
Alien Abductee
USA
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Posted - 06/11/2007 : 10:01:09 AM
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I have a copy of Zen here on my desk, but I haven't read it yet. Fluffy, let me know if I should send it to you.
A friend of mine told me to read The Celestine Prophecy, since it knocked her off her ass. I never did though.
I'll second Jason's recommendation of Ender's Game, and also endorse every other book in the ever expanding series about Ender and the Battle School. They totally rock.
As does Starship Troopers, which then became one of the worst movies ever made. They're making a movie of Ender's Game and I expect it to suck as well. |
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tericee
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Posted - 06/11/2007 : 10:02:53 AM
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me talk pretty one day is a hilarious book, and i recommend it to everyone.
I loved it too!
Note: David's sister Amy Sedaris plays one of the princesses in Shrek III. In case you care. |
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tericee
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Posted - 06/11/2007 : 10:04:02 AM
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Originally posted by Evergreen
Fast Food Nation by Eric Schlosser. A must must must read!
Its kind of heavy reading in that the amount of startling information is huge and engulfing. For all of you folks that like the conspiracy theory stuff you'll love it. But everyone should read it.
Has anybody seen the movie by Richard Linklater? I heard it is not as good as the book, but I really like his movies. |
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Robin
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Posted - 06/11/2007 : 7:22:51 PM
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| Doesn't Amy Sedaris have a hilarious book out as well? I think it's called "I like You" and is a hostess type book....Peace, Robin |
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tericee
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Zachmozach
Fluffy-Esque
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Posted - 06/12/2007 : 12:33:00 PM
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| Ya Zen is good and I think from a previous conversation Fluffy said he read it some time ago. I think Lila is better in a lot of ways. It kind of gets in to the metaphysics of quality with some interesting ideas. I think the best stuff is towards the end as it takes a little while to get rolling. I'm actually reading it again now. |
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Zachmozach
Fluffy-Esque
USA
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Posted - 06/18/2007 : 2:35:38 PM
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I have one more to add. It's a book written By Victor Wooten.
The Music Lesson: A spiritual search for growth through Music
I picked it up and I've read it twice since I saw him last month as well as lending it to friends. It's a really cool approach to music and life. Check it out.
http://www.vixboox.com/ |
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Zachmozach
Fluffy-Esque
USA
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Posted - 09/24/2008 : 11:21:37 PM
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A few books to add.
The Kite Runner- Khaled Hosseini- Such a great novel about a boy growing up in Afghanistan in the 60's and 70's and his immigration to the US. Powerful stuff.
The Absence of the Sacred- Jerry Mander- It's basically a book about the indigenous peoples of what is presently the US. Best book I've read this year I think. A great examination of our culture and an alternative to our way of life as given by the other inhabitants.
Also some re-reads for me this year I learned more from...
The Book of the Hopi
Black Elk Speaks
Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
Up next on the list for me reading is some Derick Jensen books. Check him out too. |
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LoveToday
Chatterbox
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191 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2008 : 09:32:21 AM
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Ello....frequent visitor..increasingly infrequent poster but still feel included and just read 2 very different books.
Bambi. (Yes Bambi) 1929 Author Felix Salten-through the eyes of the animal vs. through the eyes of cartoonists. Made me feel like I belong to the wrong tribe even more than ever before.
The Bible Fraud-Author Tony Bushby-through open eyes vs. closed.
Also-I made my 17 year old daughter read the Tao of Pooh. I think its a great device through which she can learn about faith instead of just about corruption.....I mean religion.
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Ranting Thespian
Fluffy-Esque
USA
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Posted - 10/09/2008 : 05:53:22 AM
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| One book I HIGHLY recommend to any big Lord of the Rings or Hobbit fans is the book the Silmarillion. It's a hard read but it is worth it. Plus it is just amazing. |
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LoveToday
Chatterbox
USA
191 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2008 : 11:54:58 AM
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| ^ ick |
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Ranting Thespian
Fluffy-Esque
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Posted - 10/10/2008 : 02:42:36 AM
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^ ick
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
4845 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2008 : 03:32:41 AM
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| For Lincoln fans "Team of Rivals" is pretty extraordinary. For political history fans "The Rise of American Democracy" by Sean Wilentz is one of my favorite books. I'm also inclined to include Walden by Thoreau and any essay by Emerson. |
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Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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LoveToday
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Posted - 10/10/2008 : 09:11:29 AM
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Originally posted by Ranting Thespian
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Originally posted by LoveToday
^ ick
oh "ick" yourself
im so sorry....I tried 3 different times and you are right its a hard read. i didnt mean anything by it I have heard from others that IF you can read it- its great. |
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Ranting Thespian
Fluffy-Esque
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Posted - 10/11/2008 : 10:43:41 PM
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Originally posted by LoveToday
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Originally posted by Ranting Thespian
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Originally posted by LoveToday
^ ick
oh "ick" yourself
im so sorry....I tried 3 different times and you are right its a hard read. i didnt mean anything by it I have heard from others that IF you can read it- its great.
Sorry? I thought we were goofing around, lol. Yes it is a hard read. I even had trouble at first and it's my favorite book of all time! It's not a narrative, and Elves tend to have very similar names in which it is hard at first to tell who they are talking about. It is a book for people who are really into Tolkien and want to know more than just what a Hobbit is. |
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dan p.
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Uganda
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Posted - 10/12/2008 : 5:44:21 PM
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the best way to read the silmarillion is to read it as a series of short stories with the setting and many common characters. the events of one short story tie into the others, so you have to read all of them. they're all related, but they don't completely rely on each other. and yes, you sort of have to muscle through the middle-earth creation myth, unless you're like me and really like that shit.
i would recommend for books: men are better than women by dick masterson. it's hilarious. also, if you don't mind his smarmy attitude, the books by richard dawkins on why god is fake are good reads, regardless of if you're a raging atheist, a (shudder) agnostic, or someone who believes in some sort of god or whatever. just don't get grumpy if he says something you don't like and pay attention. |
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Ranting Thespian
Fluffy-Esque
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Posted - 10/14/2008 : 12:14:52 AM
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I'm like Dan I really dig the myths.
People tend to compare the Silmarillion to the Bible on how they are collections of stories that are all linked together. It starts with the creation of the world. Then it goes into the story of the gods, then the story of the awakening of the elves and the gods finding them, then the story of the elves uprising, then the tale of the first battle, then the tale of the coming of Fingolfin, then the tale of the settlement of the elves, the comings of men, the discovery of dwarves, then the general landscape of Beleriand and the Lands to the North. Then about this, then about that, then about beren and luthien, then turin turumbar, then the other battles, then of the founding of gondolin, the fall of gondolin, the kin strifes and more.
Then ammended to the book is the Fall of Numenor (basicly the story about Numenor being created, founded, and it's fall). Then there is the Rings of Power and the 3rd age (basicly the background of Lord of the Rings and then the story all told like the Silmarillion).
So lots of stuff, just ya gotta take your time, and really have at it. |
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LoveToday
Chatterbox
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Posted - 10/15/2008 : 09:12:07 AM
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I never know how Im gonna come across on a computer screen. I have offended many-even here so my "ick" comment may have still been a bit harsh.
OK I just dug it out. Your recap made me want to try to read it again. As far as comparing it to the Bible...It can't possible be as much of a contradicting farce as the "silly book" is. At least it'll be easier to believe in the magic of Middle Earth (novel)as oppossed to the magic of walking on water and parting of the seas (novelesque backbone for the society of sheeple). I'm not anti-faith just anti-religion.
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Arthen
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Posted - 10/15/2008 : 12:51:07 PM
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Originally posted by LoveToday
I never know how Im gonna come across on a computer screen. I have offended many-even here so my "ick" comment may have still been a bit harsh.
OK I just dug it out. Your recap made me want to try to read it again. As far as comparing it to the Bible...It can't possible be as much of a contradicting farce as the "silly book" is. At least it'll be easier to believe in the magic of Middle Earth (novel)as oppossed to the magic of walking on water and parting of the seas (novelesque backbone for the society of sheeple). I'm not anti-faith just anti-religion.
I don't think you offended anyone, don't wory Love Today. There's a new middle ground available that everyone's left out. An expanded version of one of the many stories from "The Silmarillion" was released a few years ago as "The Children of Hurin". You might want to check that out first, as it's more linear in nature and singular in focus. If you like it, then try to work through "The Silmarillion." |
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LoveToday
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USA
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Posted - 10/15/2008 : 2:39:45 PM
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| Thanks Arthen, just ordered it on Amazon. I really WANT to love the Silmarillion it just hurts my brain so maybe this "Children of Hurin" will help stretch out my palate a bit. |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
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Posted - 10/15/2008 : 3:20:22 PM
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you didn't offend anyone, you just stirred a nest of fanboys.
also, how can you be anti-religion and not anti-faith? you statements on the bible seem to have their roots in anti-faith, which is to say not believing in magic. |
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LoveToday
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Posted - 10/16/2008 : 08:44:33 AM
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Forgive me, whats a fanboy?
Because I have faith in higher powers (not necessarily magic)and I have respect for the fact that I am not the supreme being here on this frightening ride but religion seperates people into groups, faith alone does not do that. I have more respect for the earth than I do for anything else and the "silly book" frowns on that. Not only does it frown on it, but it expects me to ask for forgiveness for feeling that way and I just can't. Religion is the only thing some people rely on to get them through and that is just fine with me but don't expect me in that herd. I was raised christian, read the bible, sung the hymns and paid my dues every sunday until I was 13 years old. I was then ASKED by our pastor if I was ready to be baptised. I had questions and he had no answers even when looking into his "manual" so I declined and left my religion in that building but I took my faith. If God is a forgiving God and wants the sheeple to learn everyday and live the very best life they can, then God knows what I am going through with this and is suppossed to understand. If so, then I have nothing to worry about right? The feelings and knowledge of religion remain but the conformity and vagueness and contradiction of it all chased me away, kinda like public school. Thanks for getting me going first thing in the AM though...now I need a drink. LOL |
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dan p.
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Posted - 10/16/2008 : 7:46:11 PM
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but what evidence exists for your version of a higher power that doesn't exist for the all the other gods you don't believe in? that is to say, why do you believe in your god as opposed to jesus christ, odin, or a six-legged invisible, untouchable unicorn? is there some evidence that causes you to believe one exists, while others do not?
or, if you claim it's all the same entity, what evidence is there that it exists at all? |
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LoveToday
Chatterbox
USA
191 Posts |
Posted - 10/17/2008 : 09:18:27 AM
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| There is no real evidence for me outside of the feeling that if people use even the theory of a God and "his" plan to bring themselves to a place where they can cope with life and find their way through, that in itself is powerful and humbling. That power is bigger (or higher) than I am. It's ludacris that people actually use their faith to kill each other over religion-and for their religion everyday. That alone is evidence enough that there is something seriously wrong with organized religion and it turns me off. As far as God being a unicorn, its whatever you want it-him-her to be. I'd be looked down upon (or worse) in many parts of the world for my FEELINGS on this issue because someone has a book-written by man-that says I should FEEL otherwise and I just don't think that is ok. |
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dan p.
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Posted - 10/17/2008 : 1:09:55 PM
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| the important part of your first sentence is "there is no real evidence." that people use god to cope with whatever (which is also a problem) isn't exactly proof. what you seem to be saying is that the idea of some sort of a god is powerful. i'd agree, but it says nothing about that god's existence, much in the same way that you don't keep a wary eye out for minotaurs, even though the idea of the minotaur exists. |
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LoveToday
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Posted - 10/17/2008 : 1:18:34 PM
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I take offense to that.
I am ALWAYS on the lookout for minotaurs. |
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dan p.
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Posted - 10/17/2008 : 5:43:34 PM
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| hahaha, my most humble apologies. being a member of the citizens protection force against minotaurs, i simply assumed you waltzed through your day, blissfully ignorant of the minotaur with his horns aimed for your back. you see a lot of that in my line of work. |
death to false metal. |
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LoveToday
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USA
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Posted - 10/18/2008 : 11:13:08 AM
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Well your job sounds very cool as does blissfully ignorant waltzing.
I think I got a flyer from that citizens protection force in the mail and I blew it off. You can only belong to SO many of those things but I thank you for your continued dedication, minotaurs need all the help they can get these days.
To give merit to continuing to use this thread for personal use, I was just given a book to read-Jasper Ffords-The Well of Lost Plots. Heard of it? It looks like a strange murder mystery where the detective is a pregnant woman?? I'm tempted. |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
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Posted - 10/18/2008 : 3:53:51 PM
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right. back on track.
milton's paradise lost is a brilliant masterpiece for the ages and a hallmark of literature. if you haven't read it, do so. you are behind. |
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Ranting Thespian
Fluffy-Esque
USA
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Posted - 10/18/2008 : 9:00:03 PM
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| I like One Fish Two Fish Red Fish Blue Fish. Fascinating stuff! |
Not communicating can hurt more than any word that can be said -
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LoveToday
Chatterbox
USA
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Posted - 10/22/2008 : 10:27:05 AM
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If your going Seuss....go all the way.
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Ranting Thespian
Fluffy-Esque
USA
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Posted - 10/23/2008 : 6:36:10 PM
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| there is also the rare "The Grinch Stole From Wal-Mart" |
Not communicating can hurt more than any word that can be said -
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LoveToday
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USA
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Posted - 10/24/2008 : 1:21:16 PM
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My other favorite is
"George W Bush, Will You Please Go Now"
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Ranting Thespian
Fluffy-Esque
USA
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Posted - 10/25/2008 : 03:32:16 AM
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| I also love 10,000 Ways To Use A Toilet Brush. Fascinating reading! |
Not communicating can hurt more than any word that can be said -
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LoveToday
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USA
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Posted - 11/05/2008 : 07:58:56 AM
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To give merit to continuing to use this thread for personal use, I was just given a book to read-Jasper Ffords-The Well of Lost Plots. Heard of it? It looks like a strange murder mystery where the detective is a pregnant woman?? I'm tempted.
Ya.....dont bother. Interesting concept but trying to read this was a drag. |
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