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Jamie M
Chatterbox
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tericee
Alien Abductee
USA
2579 Posts |
 Posted - 09/06/2003 : 6:01:11 PM
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| I don't play guitar, so my opinion doesn't count for much, but I agree that it's a pretty crappy list. |
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pcbTIM
Alien Abductee
USA
6501 Posts |
Posted - 09/06/2003 : 7:00:06 PM
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| Ike fucking Turner is on the list. Wow. |
Gay marriage killed the dinosaurs. |
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
4845 Posts |
Posted - 09/06/2003 : 9:05:17 PM
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To steal the old smiley from Xar...
Blech.
Pete Townshend is like 50? That's fucking bullshit. Man, I hate Rolling Stone. |
Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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victorwootenfan
Alien Abductee
USA
2128 Posts |
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Saint Jude
Alien Abductee
USA
2144 Posts |
Posted - 09/07/2003 : 02:20:20 AM
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12 Kurt Cobain of Nirvana
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that whole list is stupid, the guy from the white stripes is number 12...of ALL TIME!! WTF??
what?
i agree the list sux, its just a list of the best guitar players people have heard of and will recognize.
and no offense to kurt, but he wasnt that good of a guitar player. |
Remember, turn off your tv. Read. |
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{=HTG=}
Alien Abductee
USA
2342 Posts |
Posted - 09/07/2003 : 03:08:43 AM
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and no offense to kurt, but he wasnt that good of a guitar player.
I agree, nothing to impressive. |
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victorwootenfan
Alien Abductee
USA
2128 Posts |
Posted - 09/07/2003 : 10:41:31 AM
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Originally posted by Saint Jude
12 Kurt Cobain of Nirvana
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that whole list is stupid, the guy from the white stripes is number 12...of ALL TIME!! WTF??
what?
i agree the list sux, its just a list of the best guitar players people have heard of and will recognize.
and no offense to kurt, but he wasnt that good of a guitar player.
my apologies, number 17 was the guy from white stripes...which is still messed up that according to that list, jack white is better than:
bo diddley
robert fripp
frank zappa
les paul
john mclaughlin
dickie betts
steve howe
trey anastasio
derek trucks
and many more!!
also, robert randolph is on the list...when did he start playing guitar!?!? HE DOESN't!! he plays pedal steel, but he's on the list! |
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victorwootenfan
Alien Abductee
USA
2128 Posts |
Posted - 09/07/2003 : 10:51:19 AM
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haha, i just sent a letter to rolling stone online, here it is..
"Your recent listing of the "100 greatest guitarist" is easily the worst display of ignorance of music that I have ever read. It's a shoddy list that makes no coherence sense, where you have the occasional guitar player on the right spot, and then you have someone like Jack White on your list as being greater than Zappa, or steve howe, or robert fripp, or derek trucks, or JOJN MCLAUGHLIN. How can you put some no talent guitarist in a one hit wonder band in front of people who have been playing music for over 40 years(Les Paul)! Chet Adkins wasn't even on your list!! I could go on for hours about all the jazz/blues guitarists you didn't mention, like django or robert johnson, the people who started it all. To top it off you put a good musician like robert randolph on your list, who doesn't play guitar!!! He plays pedal steel, hardly a similar instrument to a guitar, and yet there he is. Your magazine is worthless, and your opinions are merely reflections on your horrivle staff, editors, and mis-understanding on where REAL music lies. You should be ashamed of yourself of holding so much influence in the music industry, while at the same time not knowing a damn thing about music!" |
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http://itunes.apple.com/us/preorder/quartet-art/id423870767
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PJK
Alien Abductee
USA
4159 Posts |
Posted - 09/07/2003 : 11:35:43 AM
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| HAHAHA EXCELLENT!!!!!! Right on Matt!!!!! |
"It is hard enough to remember my opinions, without also remembering my reasons for them!"Friedrich Nietzsche |
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Saint Jude
Alien Abductee
USA
2144 Posts |
Posted - 09/07/2003 : 2:40:56 PM
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THATS TRUE! Chet Atkins isnt on there..... i didnt even realize that.
he should be in the top 10 for sure. he had an influence on everything to do with music in america, one way or another. |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
3776 Posts |
Posted - 09/07/2003 : 3:45:38 PM
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| neil young can't play guitar. period. he doesn't belong there at all. neither does curt cobain. |
death to false metal. |
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JemezFoodPeople
Chatterbox
USA
330 Posts |
Posted - 09/08/2003 : 02:37:07 AM
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People I noticed not on the list
TIM!
Michael Hedges ( My all time fave )
Danny Heines
Billy McLaughlin
Phil Keaggy
Stanley Jordan
Dexter Brank
Joe Satriani
Steve Vai
ugh, I'm sure I and all of you could go on forever. Hell, I would go as far as to say that some of us on the board are better guitarists than 1/3 of that list. Most of those guys got their chops recognized by their songwriting or singing abilities ( or that of somebody else in their band). It had nothin to do with their musical creativity or groundbreaking guitar work. Jack White. Kurt Cobain. Give me a break. |
"Do you have the patience to wait
till your mud settles and the water is clear?
Can you remain unmoving
till the right action arises by itself?"
-Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching
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Fluffy
Administrator
USA
10739 Posts |
Posted - 09/08/2003 : 03:29:52 AM
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| The one that REALLY cracked me up was Joan Jett. Now don't get me wrong, I absolutely adore Joan Jett, BUT Best Guitarist? Come on!!! It makes absolutely no sense that Joan makes that list and TR is nowhere to be found along with alot of other actual BRILLIANT guitarists. I someTIMes feel those Rolling Stone lists are more popularity contests(like the Grammys)than actually having anything to do with a TRue representation of the answer to a question. I also feel that they try to fit as wide a variety a players in there to appeal to a larger(albiet ignorant)audience to sell more magazines and show how they didn't forsake certain sexes, ethninticities, etc etc. I could name plenty of female guitar players who are WORLDS better than Joan Jett. Does Joan know more than 3 chords? I am not sure she does, BUT I love her music, BUT she definitely DOES NOT belong on that list. Of course thats just my opinion, I could be wrong! Just my 2 cents! |
Peace & Keep the Faith
Fluffy         
"THE MUSIC BUSINESS IS A CRUEL AND SHALLOW MONEY TRENCH-- A LONG PLASTIC HALLWAY WHERE THIEVES AND PIMPS RUN FREE AND GOOD MEN DIE LIKE DOGS. THERE'S ALSO A NEGATIVE SIDE..." -Hunter S. Thompson |
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KevinLesko
Alien Abductee
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Posted - 09/08/2003 : 03:35:35 AM
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Jemez, one of my all time idols, and one of the most amazing guitar players I've ever seen is also not on there: Lindsey Buckingham (Fleetwood Mac).
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god
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thomasode
Yak Addict
565 Posts |
Posted - 09/08/2003 : 9:19:33 PM
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| Ok...I know for a fact some of the players on this board are WAYYYY Way better than Jack White and Kurt Cobain. I mean come on, since when were powerchords the deffinition of a GREAT guitar player? |
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victorwootenfan
Alien Abductee
USA
2128 Posts |
Posted - 09/08/2003 : 11:45:36 PM
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Originally posted by thomasode
Ok...I know for a fact some of the players on this board are WAYYYY Way better than Jack White and Kurt Cobain. I mean come on, since when were powerchords the deffinition of a GREAT guitar player?
and then some punk ass teenage guitarist will say "oh man, it's all about how they defined the genre, and are singer/songwriter's, and they innovated rhythm guitar, etc.."
BULLSHIT TO THOSE THINKERS! |
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Fleabass76
Fluffy-Esque
USA
1026 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2003 : 02:16:31 AM
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I think alot of jazz greats aren't on there because it's Rolling Stone, and I think they consider themselves more rock/metal savvy. Which they aren't, obviously, they are the periodical equivilant to MTV.
Let us know if the morons write you back VFW, I'm interested in what they might have to say. |
Robots are the enemy? Hmm... |
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victorwootenfan
Alien Abductee
USA
2128 Posts |
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Zachmozach
Fluffy-Esque
USA
1534 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2003 : 7:00:18 PM
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| I think this list is made up of the most popular guitarists and not the best even though there are some good ones. I like stevie ray vaughn and all but number 7. All he really played was the blues. And I didn't see metheny on the list what's up with that? And kurt Cobain at twelve Please. Not based on talent. I've always thought they should change the magizine name to writing stoned. Idiots! |
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{=HTG=}
Alien Abductee
USA
2342 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2003 : 7:38:11 PM
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| Flaming Moe anyone? |
'HTG, are you a cute girl?'
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JTR
Chatterbox
417 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2003 : 10:41:47 PM
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| No Di Meola either... Read an interesting interview about him the other day, and he doesn't seem to like the music industry's lack of interest in his fellow virtuosos either. Check it out: http://www.innerviews.org/inner/dimeola.html |
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JemezFoodPeople
Chatterbox
USA
330 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2003 : 11:37:01 PM
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Pat Metheny.
Elliot Fisk!!!!
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"Do you have the patience to wait
till your mud settles and the water is clear?
Can you remain unmoving
till the right action arises by itself?"
-Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching
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victorwootenfan
Alien Abductee
USA
2128 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2003 : 12:06:38 AM
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Originally posted by JTR
No Di Meola either... Read an interesting interview about him the other day, and he doesn't seem to like the music industry's lack of interest in his fellow virtuosos either. Check it out: http://www.innerviews.org/inner/dimeola.html
thanks for the article, i personally like listening to al, but lots of people i've talked to just down him for being all chops, which i think is untrue... would you down bb king because he plays slow all the time as opposed to fast? al plays fast a lot, but still he contrasts it with ideas, just like any great slower guitarist would in blues, or a jazzer, or whatever.
speed doesn't equal good or bad, it's just part of a person's sound. |
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Zachmozach
Fluffy-Esque
USA
1534 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2003 : 2:26:58 PM
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| I wonder if these guys have ever heard of joe pass? |
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Black Lotus
Fluffy-Esque
Burkina Faso (Upper Volta)
1043 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2003 : 8:38:34 PM
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Since when has being a good guitarist had anything to do about popularity? It just seems as though they took the popular guitarists of the past 50 or so years and made a list of them. I think that ENTIRE list is a bunch of shit.
But, so is rolling stone, so it should have been expected. Then again, I'm overly opinionated  |
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rubylith
Fluffy-Esque
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Posted - 09/12/2003 : 10:04:36 AM
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| what i find stupid is that Django Reinhardt is mentioned by the editors once. by far he is the greatest, could be disputed by opinions. but seriously there are many reasons why he is. but on every artists top 10 list he is up there. weird right? |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
3776 Posts |
Posted - 09/12/2003 : 2:24:53 PM
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| wasn't he missing fingers? |
death to false metal. |
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victorwootenfan
Alien Abductee
USA
2128 Posts |
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Jay
Alien Abductee
Vatican City
2279 Posts |
Posted - 10/01/2003 : 3:32:49 PM
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| Argh! No Kottke...He is, in my mind, the best acoustic guitarist ever. TR is the best guitar player period, but Kottke holds on acoustic. And KJP. And that dude from String Cheese Incident. But of course, this is nothing but a popularity contest...Oh, and Neil Young CAN play guitar, and a lot better than Jack White. He has a very unique style, even though he's not even close to being top 10, maybe not even top 20, he certainly doesn't deserve being in the 80's for sure. One thing I like about Neil is that he doesn't play fastall the time...in fact, he hardly EVER plays fast...he plays for more of an effect than for showmanship...Many of these star players only play fast for applause. I would rather hear a heartfelt, slow, background solo rather than an upfront, loud, fast, and un-inspired solo...even if it sounds great, and has extreme technical ability, there isn't any "feeling" to it. Neil has a lot of feeling...and a lot of sideburn. |
"Hey man...you smell..."
"Oh yeah?"
"yeah...like dinner..." |
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
4845 Posts |
Posted - 10/01/2003 : 4:44:16 PM
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| Lyle Lovett deserves to be on that list, probably in the 70s. He's got a great finger picking style. Does some really interesting songs. |
Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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mingmacia
Is Anybody Here?
USA
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Posted - 10/02/2003 : 02:07:58 AM
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| Has anyone heard the album of Di Meola, Mclaughlin, and De Lucia called fri night in San Francisco? That is good Guitar. Rolling stones MAg is a popularity contest Not a guide to guitarists. |
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captain_napkins
Is Anybody Here?
31 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2003 : 10:22:15 PM
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You guys just nailed everything I was going to say about Kurt Cobain. He was real good at playing power chords, but then so am I. So where am I on the list, Rolling Stone?
Tim and Dave both probably deserve to be on there.
And, uh...who am I thinking of? Err...Hendrix.
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LoveToday
Chatterbox
USA
191 Posts |
Posted - 10/03/2003 : 08:22:07 AM
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| I think by the pic at the top of the page, it is evident that Hendrix is #1. Did anyone else get that? I am blonde you know.... it could be me. |
I childproof my home... and they still get in! |
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Saint Jude
Alien Abductee
USA
2144 Posts |
Posted - 10/03/2003 : 1:52:37 PM
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I think by the pic at the top of the page, it is evident that Hendrix is #1. Did anyone else get that? I am blonde you know.... it could be me.
indeed he is.
no number next to him but he is at the top and the list stops at 2, so thats what i figured as well. |
Remember, turn off your tv. Read. |
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krystal
Try A Little Harder
USA
92 Posts |
Posted - 10/06/2003 : 09:48:31 AM
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| Jay, I'm with you about Leo. I couldn't agree more. |
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therippa
Fluffy-Esque
Kazakhstan
1099 Posts |
Posted - 10/06/2003 : 09:59:53 AM
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They forgot Nigel...
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Aspiring to Be Fluffy-Esque an Alien Abductee! |
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
4845 Posts |
Posted - 10/06/2003 : 2:03:01 PM
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| Yes! Nigel Tufnel! I've got his action figure sitting in my room. Man I love Spinal Tap! |
Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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Wanderguard
Is Anybody Here?
USA
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Posted - 12/03/2005 : 4:55:50 PM
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I was angry beyond words when I read this list. Jimi Hendrix being number 1 is understandable, but what really got me is the fatc that Randy Rhoads wasn't in the top ten, or at the very least, the top twenty. And on top of that, no Steve Vai.
And don't get me wrong, I love the White Stripes, but Jack White #17? That pisses me off. |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
3776 Posts |
Posted - 12/03/2005 : 7:09:34 PM
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| jimi hendrix being #1 is not understandable. |
death to false metal. |
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AGirlNamedPsycho
Try A Little Harder
USA
70 Posts |
Posted - 12/16/2005 : 4:31:54 PM
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| I honestly think music magazines roll Top 100 Lists so that they can sell them to the guys who go "Well okay, let's see how bad they fucked up THIS time." I hope someone somewhere literally wipes their butt with RS. I won't do it, because that paper fucking hurts, but I really hope somebody's into that sort of thing. |
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guitarisPIMP
Yak Addict
Niue
587 Posts |
Posted - 12/16/2005 : 11:33:47 PM
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HAHHAHAah psycho that made me happy. Mass media is a bitch.
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my favorite color is go fuck yourself. :D |
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